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08-02-2008, 15:22   #1
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Loose barrel problem with kj sig p226. Advice needed.

Hi,

I am completely new to airsoft and I recently received my very first gun. A
KJW Sig P226 pistol (all metal).

Now I'm not sure if this is a serious problem or not, but the outer barrel frequently moves slightly when the gun is tilted. It's seems it's loose.

I removed the slide (not having a clue what I was going to do) and was able to get a look at where the outer barrel ends, and sure enough it slides back and forth when I tilt the gun. It's very loose.

I have 0 knowledge on this so I cannot figure out a way to fix it. Is this even fixable at all? I'm worried that I might have caused it. Although when the gun arrived it's slide was pulled forward a bit, enough to expose the spring. Maybe that caused damage?

I would really like to get this sorted and I appreciate any advice. Thanks.
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Hi,

I am completely new to airsoft and I recently received my very first gun. A
KJW Sig P226 pistol (all metal).

Now I'm not sure if this is a serious problem or not, but the outer barrel frequently moves slightly when the gun is tilted. It's seems it's loose.

I removed the slide (not having a clue what I was going to do) and was able to get a look at where the outer barrel ends, and sure enough it slides back and forth when I tilt the gun. It's very loose.

I have 0 knowledge on this so I cannot figure out a way to fix it. Is this even fixable at all? I'm worried that I might have caused it. Although when the gun arrived it's slide was pulled forward a bit, enough to expose the spring. Maybe that caused damage?

I would really like to get this sorted and I appreciate any advice. Thanks.

its a "floating" barrell
the return spring might be slack



nice pistol

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08-02-2008, 18:24   #3
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its a "floating" barrell
the return spring might be slack



nice pistol
Oh okay, floating barrel, well i've learned something. I assume it's a common problem then? Are you fairly sure thats the problem with mine though?

Here's the exploded diagram I got in the gun manual:

Just to be sure you all know, the part thats moving is number 16. Looking at it, there doesnt seem be any type of spring near it when all together..
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08-02-2008, 19:01   #4
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The Barrel on mine moves a bit too but I always assumed it
was was supposed to. Its never been a problem for me though.
GBB works fine.

Its my favourite looking GBB. A person I work with owns
a real steel P229 which is the shorter version of the P226.
They look and feel identical. (Apart from the stronger spring on the RS)
The airsoft metal mags feel way better than the cheap ass real steel plastic
mags that come with the real thing.

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The Barrel on mine moves a bit too but I always assumed it
was was supposed to. Its never been a problem for me though.
GBB works fine.

Its my favourite looking GBB. A person I work with owns
a real steel P229 which is the shorter version of the P226.
They look and feel identical. (Apart from the stronger spring on the RS)
The airsoft metal mags feel way better than the cheap ass real steel plastic
mags that come with the real thing.

~B
Hmm.. I guess it's normal then. I expected the gun to be more sturdy tbh. I guess the only bad thing about it moving is it makes a clink sound everytime.
Everything else about it I like though. And I can't believe the power of it!

Thanks guys.
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09-02-2008, 15:15   #6
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The outer barrel on my KJW P226 is solid as a rock and I've had it for a year now. A full strip of the slide assembly might help, it may just have been installed badly in the factory.
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Mine is the same, it was solid when I got it over a year ago but since the first strip down which I did a day after I got it its been loose. It's the inner and outer barrel rattling against each other beside the hopup unit.

Still works great though and its still my favourite GBB.
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It does kind of take away from the realistic feel of the gun.. Even though it seems to be performing alright (as I said), it was mainly the realism I was after when I decided on this gun.

Is the real version prone to this imperfection?
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Not at all. The real P226 is highly engineered, no rattle. Since myself and a few others don't suffer this problem with theirs it may be a quality control issue with KJW's. Maybe replacing the outer barrel would sort it out? You could buy an aftermarket threaded barrel so you'd have the bonus of being able to use a silencer.
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09-02-2008, 21:30   #10
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Not at all. The real P226 is highly engineered, no rattle. Since myself and a few others don't suffer this problem with theirs it may be a quality control issue with KJW's. Maybe replacing the outer barrel would sort it out? You could buy an aftermarket threaded barrel so you'd have the bonus of being able to use a silencer.
Okay well I want to get this sorted. I hate small imperfections and the fact I did not get the quality I'm entitled to.

Think I could get the gun replaced or is something like this usually not covered? Also does anyone have contact info/email for KJW? I'd like to talk to them about it. I shouldnt have to go and buy a new barrel..
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I got an aftermarket threaded barrel for mine, it fits alot tighter but there is still a little rattle from the hopup unit moving with the inner barrel against the outer one.

I went back to the old barrel as it cycled quicker with it installed.
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I got an aftermarket threaded barrel for mine, it fits alot tighter but there is still a little rattle from the hopup unit moving with the inner barrel against the outer one.

I went back to the old barrel as it cycled quicker with it installed.
See what I can't understand.. is how it's possible for some kj p226 pistols to have this and some not at all.. The design of that area with the notches connecting the outer and the inner barrels is surely done the same way with every kj p226..

If I do decide to replace the barrel I would prefer to have one the similar to the original. Where could I find one like that? One that does not wobble around of course..
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Seems I have one of those wobbly KJW P226s too...strange
The KJW P229 is very sturdy...would recommend it over the P226. Great fun, great blowback and solid as a rock, and I got it for a steal ($60 on ehobby during an auction )

I still love the P226 though, as a backup to my backup

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11-02-2008, 16:36   #14
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Guys it's off topic but I'm finding this gun to be very inaccurate.. Didnt notice this over the past few days as I've been focusing on the build quality.

Was shooting at an apple (indoors) from only about 4-5m away and clearly aiming for the very top of it. However all the hits were at the base of the apple! I remember when shooting at a box the results were pretty much the same.. All the shots land below where I'm aiming...

Am I supposed to adjust gun or something? Or is this this bad news...
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Nah, you have to adjust the hop up, remove the slide, and you should see a wheel at the end of the inner barrel. adjust it until the bbs fly straight, it's fairly simple to do once you know how to do it (took me ages to do it!)
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