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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    ulysses1 wrote: »
    If you believe that atmospheric spraying doesn't exist, then I'll bet you have never worked in research chemistry.
    Are you saying that if I were a research chemist, then I would be able to prove the existence of chemtrails? Please, do go on.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ulysses1 wrote: »
    This is just as ridiculous. Disprove they exist or bring something useful to the table.
    And you disprove that I have an invisible scion of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on my left shoulder. See, you can't!

    Bow down before me, mortals. I'm in a tetchy mood today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    ulysses1 wrote: »
    Disprove they exist or bring something useful to the table.

    You cant challenge someone to prove they do not exist. The burden of proof is upon you to prove they exist. Inability to disprove that something exists is not an affirmation of its existance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭JoeTheDumber


    I see the boys are out having a blast this morning.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I was in Grenada, West Indies a couple of weeks ago. One day I saw a textbook example of what we're told is the result of all this spraying: wispy clouds, with filaments, spreading slowly to cover the entire sky in a white haze.

    Interestingly, there had been no planes - no "chemtrails", no contrails, nothing - in the sky all day.

    Weird, that.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there Oscar?


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there Oscar?
    I didn't think we did evidence, in here. :p

    Seriously: I was on a lounger sipping a cocktail. I thought about going to my room and getting the camera, but thought: why bother? It's not like Casey's going to have a sudden change of heart because I took some pictures.

    Bottom line is, the phenomenon that has been described here has a one-word explanation: "clouds". It has been claimed that naturally-occurring clouds don't look like the alleged results of alleged spraying. Where's the evidence to back up that assertion?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there Oscar?
    Typical debunker, won't accept what's right in front of you! :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    so you admit you were drunk at the time, is it possible that your judgement may have been clouded?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    grandpa_simpson_yelling_at_cloud_001.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭JoeTheDumber


    oscarBravo wrote: »

    Interestingly, there had been no planes - no "chemtrails", no contrails, nothing - in the sky all day.

    Weird, that.

    I see a plane, massive trail behind. The trail then spreads out over a period of hours.

    I am not debating cloud shapes.

    Also Belfast is getting quite a hit today.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    I see a plane, massive trail behind. The trail then spreads out over a period of hours.
    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there...?
    I am not debating cloud shapes.
    You're not debating.
    Also Belfast is getting quite a hit today.
    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there...?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    got any photos, or any form of evidence to back up that statement there Oscar?

    What, exactly, would constitute evidence of "no planes"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I see a plane, massive trail behind. The trail then spreads out over a period of hours.

    I am not debating cloud shapes.

    Also Belfast is getting quite a hit today.
    They banned casey again :(

    How am I supposed to keep track of his argument and evidence under these conditions...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    bonkey wrote: »
    What, exactly, would constitute evidence of "no planes"?

    what I meant was did Oscar have some photos of the clouds that looked like Contrails, hence providing proof that they are indeed a naturally occurring phenomena, a distinct lack of planes in the photo would have been a bonus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    what I meant was did Oscar have some photos of the clouds that looked like Contrails, hence providing proof that they are indeed a naturally occurring phenomena, a distinct lack of planes in the photo would have been a bonus.
    In just about all of the photos I have seen of contrails on this forum, planes are conspicuous by their absence. What would one more of these photos prove?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I'd still love to know what chemtrails actually do, let alone the evidence for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    KILLER CHEMTRAILS : THE SHOCKING TRUTH (5 MINS)


    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Psdg3OAw_a8


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    espinolman wrote: »
    KILLER CHEMTRAILS : THE SHOCKING TRUTH (5 MINS)


    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Psdg3OAw_a8
    Pretty shocking alright - that soundtrack was awful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    That video is pretty retarded.
    Apparently the guy can't figure out perspective.

    Wonder where he got those "chemtrail fibers"?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    jaysus I havent heard that song in years :) I like tho

    Perspective? mob, Gravity, its all gonna fall the same way

    also this is the first one I've seen that links chemtrails to CCD

    I have been observin more planes recently since I started readin about this, they do have a much longer XXXXXXtrail than they did when I were a wee lad

    I'd like to know why


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    I have been observin more planes recently since I started readin about this, they do have a much longer XXXXXXtrail than they did when I were a wee lad
    You sure about that? What are you basing this observation on? Memory? Because that ain't terribly reliable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    Have any of the turthers on this ever done research into what the chemtrails are supposedly dropping? I mean if they're right wouldn't air samples taken indicate a higher than normal presence of whatever?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,393 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    toiletduck wrote: »
    Have any of the turthers on this ever done research into what the chemtrails are supposedly dropping? I mean if they're right wouldn't air samples taken indicate a higher than normal presence of whatever?
    You'd think......

    Its all about the "BARIUM" man......Barium, Thats what's being dropped on us. We're all gonna die!!!!


    Seriously, I've had my say in this and other threads on the same topic before. I cant believe the purpetrators of this theory havent come up with any more solid information that a couple of ropey youtube videos and some pictures of contrails.

    Kippy


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Perspective? mob, Gravity, its all gonna fall the same way
    Well yea. they aren't crossing over they're thousands of feet apart. And on they're not going to fall straight down most likely because of high winds.

    also this is the first one I've seen that links chemtrails to CCD
    By links you mean assumes. There's no evidence linking them.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    jaysus I havent heard that song in years :) I like tho

    Perspective? mob, Gravity, its all gonna fall the same way

    also this is the first one I've seen that links chemtrails to CCD

    I have been observin more planes recently since I started readin about this, they do have a much longer XXXXXXtrail than they did when I were a wee lad

    I'd like to know why

    They are jets now ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    they were jets when I was a kid too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    I have been observin more planes recently since I started readin about this, they do have a much longer XXXXXXtrail than they did when I were a wee lad

    I'd like to know why

    There are any number of sites which offer explanations. I find it hard not to find them whenever I look for sites on either side of the issue.

    I'd like to know why you don't accept them, or how it is you haven't found them.

    Also...I'd suggest that the part of your post that I've underlined is at least one of the contributory factors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Oh my god , it looks like the earth is being terraformed , why are they doing that !


    Chemtrails (never) seen (before) from Space:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSrtmMLOJVY


    Ancient Hopi Native Americans made a prophecy of a great cleansing of earth and at the time of this event the earth would be covered in chemtrails , was it chemtrails they saw in their visions?

    chemtrails ancient hopi prophecy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fheVEk5SQEs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Chemtrails are being discussed right now on the gerry ryan show . There were chemtrails over wicklow on sunday , a trail was over wicklow for 12 hours on sunday blocking out the sun . A caller rang in to the show about it ,


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