[Makikomi]

Originally Posted by butchy2007

This is something that really really bugs me.

Now, I do not mind gay people whatsoever, in fact, I have a gay friend. He is just a regular guy, acts normal, has a laugh and enjoys life.

What I cannot stand is gay people, specifically blokes, who act like complete fairies. WTF is wrong with them? They are men, but they put on this pathetic little act flaunting their sexuality to all the world like attention seeking little brats. Why do they speak in that tone, why do they walk like that, why do they wave their hands around like that and why do they bitch more than girls.

As I said, I don't mind the fact that their gay, each to their own and all that. But why are they so fake?

Thoughts please!

It annoys' the hell out of me too.

I've had a few friends 'come out' over the year's. And to a man all acted all fairy like within days.

As they're friends and socialise with us I also visit gay bars with them. I'm comfortable enough around homosexuals and realise that not all put on the act.

Beats the hell outta me!.

[ixoy]

Originally Posted by Mairt

As they're friends and socialise with us I also visit gay bars with them. I'm comfortable enough around homosexuals and realise that not all put on the act.

What makes you think that they're putting on an act now rather than an act before when they could have been repressing themselves and how they felt?

I'm with anotherlostie on the matter, in that I used to object to it and how it could make you feel uncomfortable if, thinking you were gay, you saw most gay people on TV,etc as camp and surely it must be faked, etc. It's not for the majority, as I've eventualy learnt - there's a nice wide spectrum, just as there is straight guys.

Mairt then - does it annoy you thinking that many straight men put on a butch exterior and "hard man" stance when they could not want to?

[MYOB]

Originally Posted by Mairt

I've had a few friends 'come out' over the year's. And to a man all acted all fairy like within days.

Have you considered that not-camp was, in fact, the "acting"?

[Boston]

Mairt is a war hero from ballymun. Just to put prospective on things.

[Sangre]

The only type of camp that Mairt has time for is one 2 miles behind enemy lines.

[Makikomi]

Lads, don't get your knickers in a twist.

I'm only speaking from experience with friends who have 'come out'.

And no, I don't think 'acting' straight was put on before coming out. I think coming out brought them into the whole gay scene and they acted accordingly.

I also base this on a discussion with one gay friend recently. He in fact never thought most of us knew he was gay, but he was genuinely feminine with no act put on. He's always been like this, and agreed with my observations that most of the other lads where putting on a 'gay act' which he found slightly offensive.

Guys, don't get offensive about this. Most straight guys (myself included) these days have absolutely no problems with having gay friends, but we just don't buy into the whole 'camp' thing.

[Boston]

Originally Posted by Mairt

Lads, don't get your knickers in a twist.

Oh shut up, I guarantee I'm more of a hard bastard then you.

I'm only speaking from experience with friends who have 'come out'.

And no, I don't think 'acting' straight was put on before coming out. I think coming out brought them into the whole gay scene and they acted accordingly.

Sex in the toilets and cocaine like

I also base this on a discussion with one gay friend recently. He in fact never thought most of us knew he was gay, but he was genuinely feminine with no act put on. He's always been like this, and agreed with my observations that most of the other lads where putting on a 'gay act' which he found slightly offensive.

You're infringing on my justification for exisiting and I feel offened, yawn.

Guys, don't get offensive about this. Most straight guys (myself included) these days have absolutely no problems with having gay friends, but we just don't buy into the whole 'camp' thing.

I don't like men with bears, what are they hiding fokes? I've known too many camp mofos for you to turn around and say "I don't believe in you".

Boston :

[stovelid]

Originally Posted by Thaedydal

And then there are hetrosexual guys that are camp.

I agree. I hung around with a (straight) lad in school who was completely camp, not affected.

Blokes acting camp (if they are acting) is no more irritating than the herds of traditional macho men.

[MYOB]

Originally Posted by Mairt

And no, I don't think 'acting' straight was put on before coming out. I think coming out brought them into the whole gay scene and they acted accordingly.

And going out in to the scene is going to make you camp, then? Right...

[Makikomi]

Originally Posted by MYOB

And going out in to the scene is going to make you camp, then? Right...

If you mean by me personally, then the answer is no. I'm straight.

But if you mean with gays generally, well I'd have to say that in my experience its caused my gay friends to act camp.

[Boston]

Originally Posted by Mairt

If you mean by me personally, then the answer is no. I'm straight.

And if you're straight you can't be camp, I get you now, it all seems so obvious.

[Makikomi]

Originally Posted by Boston

And if you're straight you can't be camp, I get you now, it all seems so obvious.

Don't be taking things out of context

[Boston]

Its perfectly in context. You believe the gay scene, which you admit you frequent, turns gay men camp, yet somehow being straight makes you immune to its obvious effects.

[Makikomi]

Originally Posted by Boston

Its perfectly in context. You believe the gay scene, which you admit you frequent, turns gay men camp, yet somehow being straight makes you immune to its obvious effects.

Oh, your a little clearer now.

Yes, the gay scene won't make a straight man camp. But it will allow a gay man to act camp around the other actors

Right, I'm outta this thread. Its almost 4pm and my nails need doing, not to mention my hair and brows haven't been touched yet.

[Boston]

Originally Posted by Mairt

Oh, your a little clearer now.

Yes, the gay scene won't make a straight man camp. But it will allow a gay man to act camp around the other actors

Only if thats his natural inclination to begin with.