[yayamark]

own an audi 02 a4 2.4 petrol. have driven bmw for years and have to say that the audi is a superior drive and my dog could create a nicer interior than the inside of a bmw

[mike65]

A4 says "professional" 3 series says "ambitious junior"

Mike.

[Silvera]

I've actually also considered a Mondeo, a lot of owners sing their praises for handling and power.

I suppose I would probably get a 04/05 Mondeofor the same money as a 01/02 A4 or BMW 3 series?!

Though I dont mind the year so much once it's a quality car.

How does a 01 A4 2.0, 57k for €14k sound?
or a 01 318SE 80k for €13.5K ?

[yayamark]

BMW's are staring to be used by some "Boyracers".

You'll never see that with an Audi. --- Class

[colm_mcm]

Boyracers are driving them for a reason though!

[E92]

Originally Posted by yayamark

BMW's are staring to be used by some "Boyracers".

You'll never see that with an Audi. --- Class

Boyracers can never win, when they start driving sh!tboxes we give out about them for doing up heaps of rubbish, then when they start doing up proper cars we tell people not to buy them, because they are driven by the modified car crew!


But its the E30 and early E36 3 series that "suffer" from this "problem".

This is an E30:
.

And this is an E36:



OP is talking about the E46 though, which looks like this:

[JHMEG]

Originally Posted by yayamark

BMW's are staring to be used by some "Boyracers".

You'll never see that with an Audi. --- Class

Boll*x. For some reason the A6 is the weapon of choice for the "accomplished" boy racer. Pref white (some sort of homage to Japanese motor racing I presume) with tinted windows and smoked tail lights. And then there's the A4 with 18" wolfrace alloys. I've even seen one with 18" on the back and 16" on the front. Obviously he didn't know it's FWD...

[E92]

Originally Posted by JHMEG

Boll*x. For some reason the A6 is the weapon of choice for the "accomplished" boy racer. Pref white (some sort of homage to Japanese motor racing I presume) with tinted windows and smoked tail lights. And then there's the A4 with 18" wolfrace alloys. I've even seen one with 18" on the back and 16" on the front. Obviously he didn't know it's FWD...

Lol, I'd love to see that A4 you described! Whatever next!

Worse is the crowd telling you this is an RS4(of course anyone even remotely interested in cars will know straight away that it is not an RS4, and those who don't know anything about cars won't know what an RS4 is), only to find out when they accelerate that there is 4 cylinder diesel making that lovely diesel racket that affects all VAG TDi with PD technology so you can tell a mile away its a paraffin stove....priceless !

Then again we have have the good old Honda Civic, between the EH's/EG's and EJ's, they all seem to modified these days!

I can't wait to see the first souped up Civic IMA with big huge exhausts and the sound of silence coming from them !

[CarLover]

Originally Posted by Silvera

Ok...this is the story -

I have a '03 Astra XE and have been looking for some time now for the right 01/02 A4 130bhp TDi, with no luck. Either the mileage is too high or the colour is wrong or whatever.

So now I'm considering going for a petrol A4 or BMW 318i.
(I do about 12k per annum)

Looking at the options on carzone.ie, I see several cars which would suit me and my budget....either petrol 01/02 A4's or 318's.

Question is ....which one is best overall?

For some reason petrol A4's dont get mentioned much here, or get indifferent opinions?!?

To the OP - feel free to ignore this btw...just my opinion.
Both are boring lumps. If I see another 318i 3 series on the road I will probably barf

Go 6 cylinder...you will never regret it...even when the Greens shaft you later on this year for killing all those bunny wabbits with your exhaust!!

If you're not into cars save your money and buy a Focus or a Mondeo or something. There is NOTHING WORSE than lowly versions of prestige brands. I'd rather drive a standard Golf or Focus.

Of the two I might be tempted by the 1.8T A4...or 130BHP TDI which is the way to go alright if you're thinking Audi. Not a big fan of diesels though and you're only doing 12k per annum anyway so probably overkill.

[siralfalot]

Originally Posted by mike65

A4 says "professional" 3 series says "ambitious junior"

Mike.

Originally Posted by yayamark

BMW's are staring to be used by some "Boyracers".

You'll never see that with an Audi. --- Class

what utter bullsh1t

to me they both say "boring and conservative"

[JHMEG]

Originally Posted by E92

Worse is the crowd telling you this is an RS4

Yes, have seen quite a few RS4 1.9TDi's going around lately.

[Eoin]

Originally Posted by siralfalot

what utter bullsh1t

Completely agree with you there; utter crap.

Originally Posted by siralfalot

to me they both say "boring and conservative"

I'm obviously biased, but the e46 saloon can be made to look very nice with a few subtle mods.

[siralfalot]

Originally Posted by eoin_s

I'm obviously biased, but the e46 saloon can be made to look very nice with a few subtle mods.

yeah I was just jesting on that one , I agree with you, they do need to be subtle though

[yayamark]

Originally Posted by E92

Boyracers can never win, when they start driving sh!tboxes we give out about them for doing up heaps of rubbish, then when they start doing up proper cars we tell people not to buy them, because they are driven by the modified car crew!


But its the E30 and early E36 3 series that "suffer" from this "problem".

This is an E30:
.

And this is an E36:



OP is talking about the E46 though, which looks like this:

Originally Posted by JHMEG

Boll*x. For some reason the A6 is the weapon of choice for the "accomplished" boy racer. Pref white (some sort of homage to Japanese motor racing I presume) with tinted windows and smoked tail lights. And then there's the A4 with 18" wolfrace alloys. I've even seen one with 18" on the back and 16" on the front. Obviously he didn't know it's FWD...

to E92 i wasnt giving out about boy racers i was hust saying what i see

To the gentleman who said bollix, take it easy pal your entitled to yours im entitled to mine, just because your obsessed with the make and model u drive doesn't mean you should redicule my post.

Audi just have that class about them, a better drive, looks reliability etc.

Bmws just dont cut it with the boyracers driving round in"supped" up models with ugly spoilers and alloys and exhausts hanging off.

I'm glad to say u just dont see that with Audi---Class

[cancan]

Originally Posted by yayamark

I'm glad to say u just dont see that with Audi---Class

So driving a jumped up skoda is what counts for class in ireland these days..

Haha - sometimes I hope for a recession!

Both cars are as boring as paint drying.

If you sell photocopiers, go get either or - you'll be equally disappointed with both.

There are much more interesting cars out there for less money.

As for reliability and being a better drive, do you know anything about cars?
Both german marks score at the bottom of their class for reliability in every JD power survey out there.

An A4 is about as limp a handling car as you'll find, and with both cars mentioned both having weedy engines, a sit down lawnmower would make for more driving pleasure.