[hero82]

thanks jc.u wouldnt happen to know of any relevant articles that i could read in relation to this topic?

[Pat28]

Any ideas on the precise cost of the ppc1 and ppc 2 courses?

Also must have a quick rant about my love for the law society!
It will cost me a hell of a lot to move to Dublin for these courses in the future. I can say with 100% clarity that if i had known they were only held in Dublin, i would never have decided to embark on them.
Moving to Dublin is a big deal for me my Wife and kids. I live in hope they will change their minds and hold the courses in Cork, which are feasible for those living in Munster! If not this will put a lot of people off doing the fe1's, so the logic behind cost cutting is annoying.

These fe1's are costing a fortune - and job prospects are pretty dull... starting to regret... but i suppose i could just decide to do something else all the same like move to Australia where there is plenty of work and the sun shines! Or Canada where at least again there is plenty of work!

[shaneybaby]

Originally Posted by Pat28

Any ideas on the precise cost of the ppc1 and ppc 2 courses?

Also must have a quick rant about my love for the law society!
It will cost me a hell of a lot to move to Dublin for these courses in the future. I can say with 100% clarity that if i had known they were only held in Dublin, i would never have decided to embark on them.
Moving to Dublin is a big deal for me my Wife and kids. I live in hope they will change their minds and hold the courses in Cork, which are feasible for those living in Munster! If not this will put a lot of people off doing the fe1's, so the logic behind cost cutting is annoying.

These fe1's are costing a fortune - and job prospects are pretty dull... starting to regret... but i suppose i could just decide to do something else all the same like move to Australia where there is plenty of work and the sun shines! Or Canada where at least again there is plenty of work!

I feel for ye Pat, as a cork man heading up on PPC2 i do. There are loads in your boat but don't worry people seem to make it work, just get your work done during the week and you'll be grand and free from Friday on. All the prices are on the law soc website in that trianing link (gimme a pm if you can't find them) They only closed the cork course last week. Don't lose heart

[UberStressed]

Has anyone ever done the one day revision courses in Griffith? I am thinking about doing the Constitutional Law one, I struggle with this subject the most and am hoping it would give me a bit more clarity and focus - would love to hear from anyone that has done it before!

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by UberStressed

Has anyone ever done the one day revision courses in Griffith? I am thinking about doing the Constitutional Law one, I struggle with this subject the most and am hoping it would give me a bit more clarity and focus - would love to hear from anyone that has done it before!

I've done several of the GCD one-days, and I would recommend them. I didn't do anything else between graduating with a LLB in 2007 and the FE1`s, and I have four passed so far. They bring you right up-to-date, their grids and other materials are excellent, and their sample exam question answers will wake you up to the standard that the FE1 examiners are expecting - in my own opinion, it's a higher standard than college and there is complete emphasis on very recent law. GCD are genuinely interested in seeing you pass these exams, even on the tenuous relationship of being a one-day student.

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by hero82

thanks jc.u wouldnt happen to know of any relevant articles that i could read in relation to this topic?

Assuming you mean EU - no, I'm the worst person you could ask for EU, it's incomprehensible to me. Not tackling the exam until march 2012.

JC

[hero82]

Originally Posted by JCJCJC

Assuming you mean EU - no, I'm the worst person you could ask for EU, it's incomprehensible to me. Not tackling the exam until march 2012.

JC

sorry jc i wasnt very clear.i was wondering about any articles in relation to that judicial independence question for constitiution.my apologies!

[galileo84]

Any one here done contract already an passed it wondering if its a big course to get thru cos going doing it wit land,equity,crim & comp in october?

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by galileo84

Any one here done contract already an passed it wondering if its a big course to get thru cos going doing it wit land,equity,crim & comp in october?

I've done and passed it by a safe margin on the second lap. It's not as big a course as company or EU I would say. Equity is a helpful subject to do with it as is tort because there is a fair bit of overlap, especially in remedies. Break the course down into discrete areas and analyse the recurring ones, either on your own or with a grid from IC or GCD. Offer, acceptance and formalities seems to come up always, know the old cases, they are in every book right down to nutshells and nutcases. Look at what the examiners themselves have written and published in journal articles - I got a whole essay question on heads of recovery of damages from one easy-to-read journal article published by Prof. Robt. Clarke, I gave him back his own essay structure and cases. I just improved the language a bit ;-)
Definitely look at the examiner's recent reports and see the cases the examiner is telling you she wants to see mentioned - you'd be a complete eejit not to do that at least. If you can afford the examiner's own recently-updated book buy it and use it, if not, leaf through it in a bookshop, in order to note the cases she has cited from about 2008 to date and look those up.
When you have a list of the fresh cases the examiner likes, like Katesan, Dakota, Zuphen etc, go to bailii.org near the exam dates and search for them - look for the most recent cases in 2010 and 2011 that cite those and you'll be really hot then.
I would say specific performance is possibly topical because currently there is a lot of litigation falling out of the back end of the celtic tiger, trying to get property deals closed now at boom prices.

You should be able to reasonably cover say seven big topics which leaves you a margin of comfort to tackle your five questions.

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by hero82

sorry jc i wasnt very clear.i was wondering about any articles in relation to that judicial independence question for constitiution.my apologies!

I'm using a 09 IC manual which is ok on it, plus GCD's sample answers from the one-day last March which are first class, I could only dream of writing essays with the breadth of knowledge they show - I think a SC does them. I also have Casey's textbook.
If you have access to a law library or legal database, search for 'separation of powers' because judicial independence is really a sub-subject of that overall doctrine. David Gwynne-Morgan has a book out on the topic which your library should be able to get if funds are tight. Any practising solicitor or barrister can borrow books from the law society's website and the law library, so if you have any professional friends you could ask them to get a book for you - they are DX'ed out and you'll have them overnight.
I haven't searched the legal databases yet myself for articles, at this juncture I'm just reading through the whole course to get an overview of the subject, I'm about 75% there.

Just google [ "separation of powers" Ireland ] and you'll get a fair bit of free stuff to get you going - I just tried it. Ask me the question again nearer the exams, I might have found something.

Never ever cite wikipedia in anything, but use it to get an overview.

[galileo84]

Originally Posted by JCJCJC

I've done and passed it by a safe margin on the second lap. It's not as big a course as company or EU I would say. Equity is a helpful subject to do with it as is tort because there is a fair bit of overlap, especially in remedies. Break the course down into discrete areas and analyse the recurring ones, either on your own or with a grid from IC or GCD. Offer, acceptance and formalities seems to come up always, know the old cases, they are in every book right down to nutshells and nutcases. Look at what the examiners themselves have written and published in journal articles - I got a whole essay question on heads of recovery of damages from one easy-to-read journal article published by Prof. Robt. Clarke, I gave him back his own essay structure and cases. I just improved the language a bit ;-)
Definitely look at the examiner's recent reports and see the cases the examiner is telling you she wants to see mentioned - you'd be a complete eejit not to do that at least. If you can afford the examiner's own recently-updated book buy it and use it, if not, leaf through it in a bookshop, in order to note the cases she has cited from about 2008 to date and look those up.
When you have a list of the fresh cases the examiner likes, like Katesan, Dakota, Zuphen etc, go to bailii.org near the exam dates and search for them - look for the most recent cases in 2010 and 2011 that cite those and you'll be really hot then.
I would say specific performance is possibly topical because currently there is a lot of litigation falling out of the back end of the celtic tiger, trying to get property deals closed now at boom prices.

You should be able to reasonably cover say seven big topics which leaves you a margin of comfort to tackle your five questions.

thanks for your input it was very helpful...do u know the name of the examiners book?

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by galileo84

thanks for your input it was very helpful...do u know the name of the examiners book?

Something fairly obvious like Contract Law in Ireland - by Robert Ckarke and Blathnaid Clark, he uses the silent e, she don't ;-)

[looney-toone]

Hey,


I'm looking for some advice with regards studying for the FE1s,
I have a Corp Law degree and an LLB Degree.
I want to sit/pass 3/4 subjects in October... I have 8/9 weeks to study before the exams. I was thinking of concentrating on 3 of the 4 exams to ensure I pass them. Could anyone advise me as to what I should do with regards subjects, the time frame needed for each subject??

I would really appreciate it!!

[JCJCJC]

Originally Posted by looney-toone

Hey,


I'm looking for some advice with regards studying for the FE1s,
I have a Corp Law degree and an LLB Degree.
I want to sit/pass 3/4 subjects in October... I have 8/9 weeks to study before the exams. I was thinking of concentrating on 3 of the 4 exams to ensure I pass them. Could anyone advise me as to what I should do with regards subjects, the time frame needed for each subject??

I would really appreciate it!!

Jeez, Looney T, you're a member here for a year and a half - have you been reading at all? This come up again and again. With your particular knowledge of corporate law, surely company would be obvious for you. After that, your next best three, but if you are equally brilliant at them all I would say contract, tort and equity, or criminal, constitutional and property. I'm making those selection suggestions to group complementary subjects together.

Just on degrees - I have a 4-yr 2.1 LLB from UL, but in my last job I interviewed a guy for a job who had a two-year post-grad LLB from UCG. I was very well disposed towards him because of the common interest etc, but the dude's knowledge of law could be written on the back of a small stamp with a yard brush - he was utterly, absolutely clueless, knew bugger-all as far as I could discover.

Has anybody here gone the Preliminary Exam route? I have a friend who is a law undergrad in college, she is going to try to have some or all of her FE1s done while still in college by doing the PE. If you know about it, what''s it like?

jc

EDIT: Looney Toone - note that you must SIT at least four exams initially, not 3/4 if that means 3 or 4.

[frustratedTC]

hey
just looking at Q's on sepaprte legal personality in company, was wondering if its necessary to go into the facts of salomon v. salomon, they take up a good chunk of the q!?