Boards.ie

kdouglas · 27-06-2007, 19:23

hmmm... just searching around the garda.ie site, cant seem to find any mention of the auction... they normally put up a press release with dates/times for viewing etc..

ambro25 · 27-06-2007, 20:08

Lads, advice would be to do precisely nothing for the time being.

[spin doctor spinning up]
There are no fingers pointing at "airsoft" as such, just fingers pointing at some 'imitation toy guns auctioned by the Guards to part-finance Gardai's infrastructural development'
[spin doctor spinning down]

**o1s1n** · 27-06-2007, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ambro25

Lads, advice would be to do precisely nothing for the time being.

[spin doctor spinning up]
There are no fingers pointing at "airsoft" as such, just fingers pointing at some 'imitation toy guns auctioned by the Guards to part-finance Gardai's infrastructural development'
[spin doctor spinning down]

I'm split over this myself. Kdouglas made a good point when he said it's probably springers rather than proper airsoft guns. Therefore airsoft is not really involved.

However, a ban on these pieces of sh1te would obviously mean an end to our sport. Like it or not, anything that fires a projectile sub 1 joule no matter how utterly rubbish is lumped into the same area as airsoft at the moment.

Shiva · 27-06-2007, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyRabbit

Now would be a good time for the IAA to get in contact with Jim O'Keeffe to ensure that he has his facts right, and that he decerns the difference between proper airsofters and armed robbers.

If the IAA is not in a position to do this immediately, then I would have to propose that one of us do it. I'd volunteer but it would elicit too many cries of 'Oh no!'

This, right here, right now is the biggest threat that Airsoft in ireland has faced so far. We cannot bury our heads in the sand and hope that this passes. We need action, not discussion or theory.

Utter nonsense. I'm starting to think its over-reaction and drama are the biggest threats to airsoft we've ever faced, not the Gardai selling off toys

The media are too busy trying to connect Bertie Ahern with some kind of underhanded settlement with RTE, and Joe O'Reilly's murder trial, to give a flying feck about an opposition TD's political attention-seeking stunt.

The gardai have said quite categorically "These are obviously only toys". Leave it at that. Do you not think they're MUCH better equipped to deal with defending THEIR decision to auction toys than us ??
The very LAST thing we need is some well-meaning fool going off half-cocked and drawing Jim O’Keeffe's attention to a fledgling sport ill-prepared to defend itself against ridiculous and unwarranted accusations.

I can almost hear the politicians now - "WHAT ??? You mean theres more of these deadly weapons freely available ?! Holy God...call my PR guys now...we have to get on TV with this - we'll get great mileage from it!".

Bah !

**Dave!** · 27-06-2007, 22:52

I agree

Ample Free ...? · 27-06-2007, 23:07

I have to agree with Shiva, the Gardai have made they're position on the matter clear. Despite what some might say they're not idiots. The items in question don't pose any major harm. The story isn't mindblowing so just let it drown with all the other mediocre articles out there.

*CrazyRabbit* · 27-06-2007, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiva

Utter nonsense. I'm starting to think its over-reaction and drama are the biggest threats to airsoft we've ever faced, not the Gardai selling off toys

The media are too busy trying to connect Bertie Ahern with some kind of underhanded settlement with RTE, and Joe O'Reilly's murder trial, to give a flying feck about an opposition TD's political attention-seeking stunt.

The gardai have said quite categorically "These are obviously only toys". Leave it at that. Do you not think they're MUCH better equipped to deal with defending THEIR decision to auction toys than us ??
The very LAST thing we need is some well-meaning fool going off half-cocked and drawing Jim O’Keeffe's attention to a fledgling sport ill-prepared to defend itself against ridiculous and unwarranted accusations.

I can almost hear the politicians now - "WHAT ??? You mean theres more of these deadly weapons freely available ?! Holy God...call my PR guys now...we have to get on TV with this - we'll get great mileage from it!".

Bah !

Well when you put it that way....I have to agree. Let hope Bertie has a few more skeletons in his closet to keep the focus off airsoft.

If this attention-seeking politician keeps on about this issue, it could become a big threat though.

Miscreant · 27-06-2007, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyRabbit

If this attention-seeking politician keeps on about this issue, it could become a big threat though.

I agree with you there CrazyRabbit.
My feelings on this are that it will probably blow over with a few lines near the TV section in Newspapers (the tabloids at least). There are far more visible places for them to get stories about "Replica" firearms such as the many joke shops in Dublin (Dundrum, The Square, Jervis Street to name a few that I have seen them in). The reason that they have not latched on to these places is because at the moment the perception of "Replica" firearms does not sell copy as much as Political Scandal and such like. Fingers crossed though....

**Dave!** · 28-06-2007, 01:06

F*ck...... cancel that trip to Kevin Street, lol

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhkfgbqleygb/rss2/

Fallschirmjager · 28-06-2007, 07:06

according to the news now, the gardai have backed out of selling them...sorry just saw dave said the same thing...

**Dave!** · 28-06-2007, 07:22

Yeah it's being reported on Newstalk (national station) on their regular news bulletin. 106FM

Fallschirmjager · 28-06-2007, 08:14

The ’BB’ pistols were presented in individual boxes with a jar of 500 pellet bullets each and two training targets.

[sarcasm]
anyone here know what a pellet bullet is?? wow what an amazing invention a pellet that is a bullet..hell if i designed that i would not be importing them into ireland, i would be ringing the DOD in the US about how i have managed to make a pellet bullet that seems to magically project itself using a new force in nature previously unheard of in physics called pellet bullet theory selling it for a bazillion dollars...the pellet that is, er not a pellet, or, er, not a bullet..its a (cue dramatic music) pellet bullet...

you see crazyrabbit you asked when the aliens would get involved when i said we were close to mentioning them before..well here it is straight out of area51..the new super pellet bullet...those darn aliens could take over the planet with thier amazing pellet bullet technology, sold in JARS no less!!!!
[/end sarcasm]

jesus, do these guys have a clue at all..nowhere did they mention POINT 2 of a gram or maybe the hugely dangerous POINT 25 of a gram of plastic, nope they had to get the word bullet there...

we should name this type of response 'pellet bullet hysteria'

tonyj_mc · 28-06-2007, 08:59

just typical scare mongering, nobody would care if they had had have said toy guns, they needed to get sensational to sell newspapers and actually have someone erad the article and think the governement is doing something about crime in general, wheras the night before a hand gernade was set off in a residental area seems the governement need to get a clue and tackle the actual crimes and give the colum inchs to something worth while, sorry about the rant and non-sensical nature of this post just really agrivates me

Crave · 28-06-2007, 09:07

Both Herald AM and Metro have reported on this story both referring to the toys as GUNS! Metro's headline is so misleading and false. 'Red-faced Gardai in GUN sale U-turn'. As far as i'm aware there was no gun sale. an airsoft sale maybe. This is an outrage! We need to write to these papers and correct them, informing them of the sport as a whole and the regulations that go with it. Also the legality of buying the airsoft's. They never even mention the word airsoft!!! Can we please do something!

tonyj_mc · 28-06-2007, 09:34

might be an idea alright, but i think action should be left to the Irish adoption Agency

Might also be a bad idea to highlight esp the Fine Gael reaction to this, might led to negitive impact on the sport.
I do agreee that by calling them "guns" it really portrays it a bad light, but at the GS seem to know the diffrence between real steel and toys

Also we have no idea what they are are, they might be spud gun type or even springers, but they could also be Co2 powered ones that break the limit?

28-06-2007, 07:06	#25
Fallschirmjager Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,085 Adverts \| Friends	according to the news now, the gardai have backed out of selling them...sorry just saw dave said the same thing... Last edited by Fallschirmjager; 28-06-2007 at 07:08.

28-06-2007, 09:07	#29
Crave Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leitrim/Sligo/Dublin/Carlow Posts: 508 Adverts \| Friends	Damaging Blow for Irish airsoft!!! Both Herald AM and Metro have reported on this story both referring to the toys as GUNS! Metro's headline is so misleading and false. 'Red-faced Gardai in GUN sale U-turn'. As far as i'm aware there was no gun sale. an airsoft sale maybe. This is an outrage! We need to write to these papers and correct them, informing them of the sport as a whole and the regulations that go with it. Also the legality of buying the airsoft's. They never even mention the word airsoft!!! Can we please do something!

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

27-06-2007, 19:23	#16
kdouglas Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,191 Adverts \| Friends	hmmm... just searching around the garda.ie site, cant seem to find any mention of the auction... they normally put up a press release with dates/times for viewing etc..

27-06-2007, 20:08	#17
ambro25 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dublin's bust, back to Blighty! Posts: 4,358 Adverts \| Friends	Lads, advice would be to do precisely nothing for the time being. [spin doctor spinning up] There are no fingers pointing at "airsoft" as such, just fingers pointing at some 'imitation toy guns auctioned by the Guards to part-finance Gardai's infrastructural development' [spin doctor spinning down]

27-06-2007, 22:52	#20
Dave! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallaght, Dublin Posts: 27,975 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Non Drinkers Group	I agree

27-06-2007, 23:07	#21
Ample Free ...? Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Limbo Posts: 377 Adverts \| Friends	I have to agree with Shiva, the Gardai have made they're position on the matter clear. Despite what some might say they're not idiots. The items in question don't pose any major harm. The story isn't mindblowing so just let it drown with all the other mediocre articles out there.

28-06-2007, 01:06	#24
Dave! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallaght, Dublin Posts: 27,975 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Non Drinkers Group	F*ck...... cancel that trip to Kevin Street, lol http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhkfgbqleygb/rss2/

28-06-2007, 07:22	#26
Dave! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tallaght, Dublin Posts: 27,975 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Non Drinkers Group	Yeah it's being reported on Newstalk (national station) on their regular news bulletin. 106FM

28-06-2007, 08:14	#27
Fallschirmjager Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,085 Adverts \| Friends	The ’BB’ pistols were presented in individual boxes with a jar of 500 pellet bullets each and two training targets. [sarcasm] anyone here know what a pellet bullet is?? wow what an amazing invention a pellet that is a bullet..hell if i designed that i would not be importing them into ireland, i would be ringing the DOD in the US about how i have managed to make a pellet bullet that seems to magically project itself using a new force in nature previously unheard of in physics called pellet bullet theory selling it for a bazillion dollars...the pellet that is, er not a pellet, or, er, not a bullet..its a (cue dramatic music) pellet bullet... you see crazyrabbit you asked when the aliens would get involved when i said we were close to mentioning them before..well here it is straight out of area51..the new super pellet bullet...those darn aliens could take over the planet with thier amazing pellet bullet technology, sold in JARS no less!!!! [/end sarcasm] jesus, do these guys have a clue at all..nowhere did they mention POINT 2 of a gram or maybe the hugely dangerous POINT 25 of a gram of plastic, nope they had to get the word bullet there... we should name this type of response 'pellet bullet hysteria'

28-06-2007, 08:59	#28
tonyj_mc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,132 Adverts \| Friends	just typical scare mongering, nobody would care if they had had have said toy guns, they needed to get sensational to sell newspapers and actually have someone erad the article and think the governement is doing something about crime in general, wheras the night before a hand gernade was set off in a residental area seems the governement need to get a clue and tackle the actual crimes and give the colum inchs to something worth while, sorry about the rant and non-sensical nature of this post just really agrivates me

28-06-2007, 09:34	#30
tonyj_mc Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,132 Adverts \| Friends	might be an idea alright, but i think action should be left to the Irish adoption Agency Might also be a bad idea to highlight esp the Fine Gael reaction to this, might led to negitive impact on the sport. I do agreee that by calling them "guns" it really portrays it a bad light, but at the GS seem to know the diffrence between real steel and toys Also we have no idea what they are are, they might be spud gun type or even springers, but they could also be Co2 powered ones that break the limit?