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17-12-2007, 17:06   #31
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10 mb aren't available in this country yet, 6 is the max. But yes you had to pay for print outs. These notes were pages long and I had no money at all. Can't argue with everything else you have said. I've heard the course gets a lot better after the first two years and you go into the specialised areas like immunology or neuroscience. But I wasn't willing to stick it. I could see myself doing badly, in the first year at least, because I hated the way it was run and this would affect my end result meaning I couldn't get into graduate entry medicine (which was the only reason I was doing it in the first place).
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For those who are interested:

Course:
BA Communication Studies, DCU.

Points:
440 - Have been about that mark for about 3 years now.

Number of students:
Around 80, divided into smaller workshop groups for some modules (about 25 in these)

Hours:
13 per week in first year (8 lecture hours, 2 workshop hours, 3 seminar hours). Seemingly about 16 in other years

Course Content:
This is only a first year's experience! The first semester has a lot of theory subjects, for example Sociology and Psychology. However these are literally for 12 weeks so that's fine. These are also balanced with practical subjects like Media Practice and Media Technology. In first year, you study Video Production, Audio Production and Photography, and then choose one of these fields to specialise in for the next 2 years. Usually Video is the most popular and places are limited, but this year it seems that photography will be far more competitive than video. For the first semester in Media Practice, you acquire a lot of content by shooting videos around campus, having photography classes and workshops and taking photos near campus, and doing radio shows. In the second semester you put all this into post production in Digital Media Skills. There's basic web design in the Media Tech module as well. We have some other modules like Analysing Media Content, in which we basically... analyse media content! Apparently this involves a lot of studying photographs, radio samples and watching video clips to establish messages. The second and third year modules are a lot more practical and hands on, and specifically to do with video, audio or photography. There are a lot of theory subjects in first year (5 out of 12), but it's a lot more practical after that.

Workload:
The CS course is very focused on continuous assessment as opposed to exams. There are no exams for the first semester of first year, and only one in the second semester. While the idea of continuous assessment scared me because I thought I wouldn't be bothered doing anything, it's actually fine. For the theory based subjects of the first semester, for example,(Language Culture and International Communication, Sociology and Psychology), they were marked 30% on a presentation and 70% on one course essay. The essay was 3000 words for LCIC, 1500 for Psych and a group essay for Social. For Media Tech we had weekly online quizzes (50%) and the other 50% was a web design project, and for Media Practice we were marked on our videos and stuff.

My Opinion:
I would definitely recommend this course to anyone. I was a bit disheartened that he have 3 theory subjects in the first semester, because I thought I would be doing pure production. However, it all balances out because we have as much practical as we do theory. Also, at 80 people, the course has a nice number. Not that small, but not so big that you're lost in a sea of people. It's like the size of a year in school. The class is divided into smaller groups for workshops and seminars anyway, so you get to know smaller groups there. They're a lovely bunch of people, generally people who are passionate about media. Out of the 80, there's about 8 mature students in the class. DCU is a great college as well, everyone's absolutely lovely and there's always a good, friendly atmosphere about the place. A lot of my friends in the class had CS as their 2nd or 3rd CAO choice and are now glad they got it as they absolutely love it. There have been no dropouts in my class so far which is pretty rare for any course. I would definitely recommend the CS course to anyone who's interested in the media. It opens up a wide range of jobs, everything from PR and advertising to teaching to hands-on production.


Also, a word of advice that I cannot stress enough: If you end up in DCU you'll be hearing this a lot anyway, but GET INVOLVED IN CLUBS AND SOCIETIES. They seriously add so much to the college experience and you make so many friends that you wouldn't have met in your class. No matter where you go, really get involved in college life and put yourself out there in first year. You'll have such a ball at college!

PM me for any more questions. Good luck everyone, and give your CAO some serious thought, a few of my friends didn't really think it through enough and they're absolutely miserable now.

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Am hoping (i think) to do animation in Dun Laoighire, has any1 here done that or know any 1 who did??! Or software development in LIT. Is it very technical etc?? is there much difference between the game development and software development courses?? Would limerick be one of the better places to do these courses or would it be cork waterford dublin etc??
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any one got snything on computer games development in lyit?
Don't know anyone that successfully got into Animation mate; and everyone I saw try was pretty grade A. The single biggest complaint about fine art courses is that it has so much more to do with the technical aspect of things than the creative aspect: A mind blowing, wild and varying portfolio full of color and inspiration can still be won out for a place by an entire portfolio about a single piece of fruit. Else I might have tried for animation myself.

I can't fully comment on the games courses in Limerick except to say, living in Ennis, I was very tempted to make them my first choice. However, the course provided in ITC has proven very valuable. I've known a few guys who have tried the 2 though: none of whom have been very enthusiastic about it at all. One even dropped out and came here: his biggest complaint was that the Games course was really just the Computer Systems course with a new layer of paint.

As for the course provided here at ITC: I like it. And Carlow is not a bad town at all. Very college orientated.


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This course will provide people with all the skills they need to become professional games software developers. Students will develop skills and expertise in areas such as software development (software design and programming), game design, graphics programming, modeling, simulation and animation, and will have produced several complete game concepts in a playable form. Graduates of this course will be able to develop games software for all the major gaming platforms including PC, console (e.g. X-Box 360, Game Boy) and mobile.

WHAT SUBJECTS WILL I STUDY?

YEAR 1: Mandatory Subjects: About 30 hours per week

Computer Games - games appreciation; game balance; level design; etc.
Computer Graphics - theory; history of graphics; how graphics work
Applied Mathematics - Matrices; Ray Tracing; Co-ord Geometry; etc.
Programming - C/C++ (I think 1st year has changed to C#..)
Computer Architecture -Binary and Machine Code; Computer fundamentals; Circuit Logic

Projects: Create a Board Game; 2 Mid-Year games (text-based); Level Editing (Quake 2); 2D scrolling game; End of Year Game (eg. Asteroids)

YEAR 2 (thats me!): Mandatory Subjects: 20-30 hours

Programming and Operating Systems - Object Orientated Programming; C/C++; 3D Learning Engine; Torque Engine 3D game editor; Script Language
3D Graphics and Audio I - OpenGL engine ; Primitive Shapes and Textures; Basic Audio
Data Structures & Algorithms - How your computer/program stores and executes data
Games Engineering I - What methods the industry uses to produce games and other software
Applied Physics I - Momentum; Friction; Projectile Motion; Differentiation
Human Computer Interaction - User Interface; GUI; Use Case Scenarios; Prototyping; Macromedia Flash (2D animation and flash games programming)

Projects: 2D OpenGL game (eg. Bomberman); 3D OpenGl game; Level Editing; etc. etc. etc.

YEAR 3: Mandatory Subjects:

3D Graphics and Audio II
Games Engineering II
Network Programming
Applied Physics II
Animation
Project I
Industrial Placement

YEAR 4: Mandatory Subjects:

Programming for Games Devices
On-line Gaming Technologies
Real World Modelling and Simulation
Artificial Intelligence for Games
Project II


This course was developed with Microsoft, the makers of the X-Box®. This is the only degree course in Gaming that Microsoft has helped to develop and given its backing to. This course also includes a six-monthwork placement.
Note the work placement is not strictly with Microsoft: students have gone on to work with Vivendi (Blizzard, WoW, Starcraft) for the most part as they have a couple operations happening around the country. One allumni (*cough* dropout) is currently working as a WoW moderator down in Cork 3 students every year so far have been given placements in Hawaii and Alaska - the continental US is off limits due to visa restrictions (not for me though... yank ftw)

Now the important thing to note about this (and hopefully any other Games course) is that the primary focus is not on teaching you how to design a game: Its mostly about teaching you how to develop one. You're of course free to do whatever you please for some of the project work but the most that will be asked of you is to create a reproduction of an existing title (like Asteroids or Bomberman)

When you graduate the thing is you will not be thrown into the design aspect of games: 99% of all graduates that find placement will be working in debugging; beta testing; programming; etc.

You will be given all the skills necessary, of course, to build your own title from the ground up - including all the animation, scripting, 3D modelling, level creation, etc. etc. etc. But you cannot expect to be put in charge of any multi-million dollar games when you graduate: it could happen, but it will require a couple years of industry experience before an employer will give you that luxury.

At the end of the day, Games Development is a desk job. Theres plenty of fun to be had but theres also work to be done. The course has nothing to do (really) with playing video games. You will not be given video games to go play - thats not how the course works. You will be given games to go make: its up to you to make those playable. The drop out rate on the course has been dynamic thanks to prospective students not knowing this: they come here expecting to be given a degree in how to play video games.

The college itself about as big as LIT - just a lot more open: I cant stand that finnicky big narrow hallway they have there
Statistically the college has more Computers in it than any other college in the country so you're never stuck for a station to work at. The hardware is upgraded every couple years so youre never stuck with an out of date machine.
Also as part of the games course you will have access to the Games Library: a personal collection of Consoles and Games kept up to date by the Course Tutor and the students. I've seen everything in there from an SNES up to a PS3. Loans are on a weekly basis (and free).

Not sure what else to say. I have work to be doing...

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Basic topics covered in first year;
(Some are just introductions to said topic)
Classical Mechanics
Special Relativity
Thermodynamics
Electromagnetism
Contiuum Mechanics
Quantum Mechanics
Electromagnetism
Quantum Statistics
Atomic Physics
Calculus and Analysis
Math Modeling
Math Software
Linear Algebra

We also have a module where you study modern questions and topics in physics, we have done nuclear energy, introduction to microelectronics, astrophysics.

I haven't thought too much about jobs but one of my lecturers spoke about how physicists are basically required in most situations. He wrote up two black boards worth of areas that physicists can work. All quite interesting so Ill see how it goes.
Hey everyone I'm in this course aswell (Physics & Astrophysics @ UCC)
eZe^'s post is a very good summary of 1st year.
Also, you have optional modules in Chemistry, Computer Science (Internet & Web Design, C Programming etc.) and Statistics.

The best thing about this course is that there are a lot of options open to you after 1st year. You can do a Single Hon.s Degree in Physics, Astrophysics or Chemical Physics. You can also do a Joint Hon.s in Maths & Physics OR Applied Maths & Physics. There's also a degree for specialising as a Science Teacher.
The standard of lectures is mostly excellent, with only 1 or 2 exceptions!

The downside? Quite a lot of hours if you go to all your lectures & tutorials (I didn't! Not even close!! ) Plus labs are a pain in the ass at times. Some of the stuff is quite difficult, while some of it seems quite pointless (I still don't know exactly what the purpose of linear algebra is!!)
It's a tough course, but if you enjoy Physics, Maths and Applied Maths it's definetly a good choice.

Hope this waffle has been of some benefit to somebody!
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I know someone asked for this already but i didnt see any reply! Is anyone thinking of doing multimedia in CIT? Or even better has anyone actually done it/doing it now??! Also, if you did a multimedia degree anywhere else can you tell me if you liked it or not??! Thanks!!!
Well, I'm doing Creative Multimedia in Dundalk IT and I'd imagine is much the same.

I've completed first year there and I'll give you a run through of what some of the modules consist of.

Creative Design
It's just like an art class. We drew, painted and made puppets.

Introduction to Graphic Design
This was a Photoshop class. We learned how to fix imperfections in photos.

Media Studies
We learned about Audiences and how people interpret the same
information differently.

Media Theory
Much the same as Media Studies but more in depth.

Film Studies
We watched and analysed films.

Audio Visual Techniques
We used a camcorder to shoot an interview. We learned about lighting,
sound and editing in iMovie.

Writing for Multimedia
We learned how to write blogs and how to limit what we write to be
more effective for our audience.

Interactive Authoring
Website design using Dreamweaver. Only basic stuff really, we will be
learning more next year.

Audio 1
We recorded and edited audio. This audio included, vocals, ambient
sounds and sound effects. Edited using Pro Tools.


Overall though, I absolutely love it. I can't wait to do more web design next year and I'll miss the whole college atmosphere over the summer for sure.

Any specific questions that you have?
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I am a college graduate:

2004 - DT273 - Technician Diploma in Applied Science (2.1 physics)
This couse is now called DT212 and is called an ordinary degree

2006 - DT222 - BSc Physics and Physics Technology (2.2)


Both of these courses are good but you should think about exactly why you want to do the course.... ie what career you want or think you want.
Generally pure physcis graduates need to go on and specialise though a masters unless you get in on a graduate program.

Now that Ive gone through the motions I probably would have gone down the engineering route if id known then what I know now.

You have more options with engineering ... try the general route here and then specialise.

Electrical engineering is good. There are alot of jobs out there for Mech&Elec engineers... ericisson, construction, esb etc

Smashing pilot id i were your definately stick with engineering

DT235 Physics with Medical Physics and Bioengineering - this course is good but it targeted towards medical physics... medical devises etc.
If you want to work as a medical physicist in a hospital this is a good route although the hospital jobs come up maybe 4 jnr positions a year countrywide if your lucky. But they are screaming out for medical physicsts in the UK. Plus the work in the uk is better as you have more research time allocated otherwise you could be stuck in a role as a basic technician.. great money but zero job satisfaction.

I was going to take this route. I would recommend if medical physics is something your interested in work really hard to get a min 2.1 in your final year and apply early sept for a position in the UK NHS training program which is 2 years during which time they pay for you to do your masters part time and you buiold up experiecnce


feel free to pm if anyone has a specific question about the courses Ive done or any physics based course in DIT Kevin st.... or questions about the college in general
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Since I did my final exams in this course just last month I thought I'd share my experiences. I've had an incredible three years doing this course and couldn't be happier with my choice. To help those of you considering it I'll go through it Semester by Semester. Before that just some general info...

Quinn School of Business is a great facility, if you're considering a degree here you should really come visit, it has lots of study areas and places for group meetings. Nearly 300 people start in commerce every year and these are split into 6 groups of just under 50, you will be with the same group for all classes for the first two years, meaning you make great friends with them. The classrooms are small (holding about 50) with comfortable seating and connections for internet and power supply at every seat. If you do a course in Quinn you'll have to have a laptop with the required software installed. You can buy a new vendor laptop from Dell at a discounted rate and if you need any service on this it can be done at ILTG which is a room in Quinn, they also give you a lend of a laptop to use if yours needs to be repaired. If you have a laptop already and it is up to spec you just need to get it on the network which is simple, but you may also need to buy and install essential software.

UCD is a massive campus with a diverse student body. Of course the stereotypes can be found and noticed but there're actually LOADS of different people with many different tastes. Plus you'll have plenty of opportunities to mix with people doing other courses, by just getting involved in student life you'll get to know people doing all sorts of things from Medicine and Science to Arts and Engineering.

The way stages and semesters work in the college: A stage is a year, which is split into two 15 week semesters, which cover 12 weeks of classes a one week study break and two weeks of exams. Semester One runs from the second week in September to just before Christmas. All exams will be complete by the Friday before Xmas, with some finishing up well before this. This means that the whole semester and all six modules (courses) in that semester will be fully complete before Xmas and you can enjoy your Xmas and New Year break without having to worry about assignments of exams coming up at the start of the New Year. The Xmas break lasts about a month then towards the end of January you start back for Semester Two with completely new modules. Semester Two usually runs for seven weeks of classes before taking a two-week study break in March, then the last five weeks of classes are covered before the one week study break and two weeks of exams to wrap up the year by the second week in May.

Stage One - Semester One
You get to know your classmates, your laptop, the campus and the system. There's the whole UCD Horizons Elective thing to get used to and find out about, this is where you can pick a module from anywhere in the university (or within Quinn if you wish) to do in addition to your business subjects which currently are:
  • Maths for Business 1: Basic algebra/calculus and how they relate to the business world, delivered through large lectures and small tutorials, assessed through weekly tests, mid-term & final.
  • Business Law: Covers contracts, the Irish legal system etc. Delivered through small class groups, assessed through assignments, field trip report and final.
  • Management: Covers basic management, such as models from Porter. Delivered in small groups, assessed through weekly online tests(Multiple Choice Questions/MCQ), reports and final
  • Micro-Economics: Intro to Economics at a micro level. Delivered in large lectures, assessed through mid-term and final exam (all MCQ)
  • Computers and Information Systems: Intro to computers. Delivered through small groups, assessed through group work... presentations, reports, building a website & final.
Stage One, Semester Two
You'll now know the system fairly well and get on with your classmates. There's more group work, presentations and reports this semester.
  • Macro-Economics: Intro to economics are a wider level. Delivered in large lectures, assessed through mid-term and final.
  • Financial Accounting I: Gives basic introduction to Financial Accounting. Delivered in large lectures, assessed through mid-term & final exam.
  • Organisational Behaviour: Covers the ethics involved in business and HRM. Delivered through small groups, assessed through group presentations, reports and final.
  • Quantitative Analysis: Lots of Excel work with numbers. Delivered to small groups, assessed through group project and final.
  • Applied Business Competencies: Teaches practical aspects of business such as giving presentations in groups and individually, writing reports, analysing annual results and using stock exchanges.
Stage Two, Semester One
· Financial Accounting II: Covers financial accounting in a more applied way, instead of just doing the equations you'll do some analysis. Delivered to small groups, assessed through essay, mid-term and final.
· Operations Management: Covers Supply Chains and how to handle multiple tasks. Delivered to small groups, assessed through group work and final.
· Finance: Covers a lot of the stuff used by top financial firms to assess potential of investments. Delivered through large lectures and small tutorials, assessed through final.
· Marketing: Intro to the basics of marketing. Delivered to small classes, assessed through presentations, reports and final.
· Cross Cultural Management: Gives some insight into how management can be different in different cultures. Delivered through small groups, assessed through presentations, debates and final.

Stage Two, Semester Two
This is where you'll have the opportunity to go on international exchange. Destinations include Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Netherlands, Norway and the UK. Where you go depends on your preferences and your performance in first year. I went to Vancouver for four months which was an incredible experience. When you're on exchange you'll do the equivalent of the courses people who stay in Quinn School.
The Quinn courses are Database Systems Development, Managing Employee Relations, Management Accounting, Understanding Entrepreneurs and Intermediate Micro-economics.

Stage Three
You will choose if you want to specialise in Accounting, Banking and Finance, General Management, International Business, Human Resource Management, Marketing or Management Information Systems. You decide in semester two of stage two, by which stage you will have experience in each of the areas, which to do. The one you choose still doesn't tie you into a career and there are plenty of postgraduate opportunities.

Hopes this helps, PM me any questions or join www.bebo.com/UCDBusiness and comment your questions there!

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Anyone going for Chemical Sciences in UCC?
Hello!
I've done First Year Physics (CK408) and a lot of the course content is similar to Chemical Science.
You have 3 options in CK406: http://www.ucc.ie/en/ck406/
If you choose option 3 I can share my wisom with you!
If you're thinking about Option 2 I can help you with most of it.
If you want info on Option 1 I'm afraid I can't help you.

The main Chemistry module is CM1000, which I did even though most on my course didn't.
It's worth 15 credits and split into 3 sections - Inorganic, Physical and Organic. You also have labs every week (which are compulsory) and tutorials/workshops (which, despite what the lecturers tell you, are optional!)
The worst thing is that you have to do 3 MCQ (Multiple Choice) exams, which are a pain because they have negative marking.
Overall, it's an interesting module (apart from Organic which I found boring and difficult). The Inorganic and Physical are simple enough, slightly dull at times, but you do learn a lot of different types of Chemistry, so it's definitely worth doing.
The other module is called History of Chemistry, CM1100. I don't know anything about it because our course doesn't have it, but it's only worth 5 credits so it's likely to be straightforward enough.

If you're considering doing Option 3 and want information on it (The 2 Physics modules, 2 Applied Maths modules and the Maths module) don't hesitate to PM me!
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Law and Accouting, UL.

Any insight?
I'm out on work placement as the second semester of Year 3 of Law and Accounting. First off, UL is a savage college, so close knit and great socially, so no worries from that aspect.

Are you interested more in Law or Accounting? I know you may think you're not sure yet, but if its law you're into, go for Law Plus instead, god I wish that course was around in 2005! The vast majority of L&A students go down the Accounting route, so choosing to go for law can be lonely!!

What way is it divided? It is basically 50-50, 3 law modules and 3 accounting, sometimes 2 - 3, and there is a good bit of Economics involved for the first year and a half or so. If you haven't done Accounting before, I would say don't do this course. They say they teach you from scratch but believe me, my sister did Accounting for the Leaving this year and she knows more about it than me, even though I'm one year away from having a degree in it!! If you did Economics for Leaving, you'll have a head start, but it is not necessary.

What can you expect if you do the course? Not overloaded with hours, about 20 a week at most. The lecturers are for the most part very nice. The law tutorials are generally good, depends of course, but if you get Eddie Keane, thank your lucky stars, a legend! The Accounting tutorials are hit and miss, some are worse than useless, others are very step-by-step and helpful. It can be a competitive course, don't fall behind, do a bit of work and it'll stand to you later.

Overall, I'm not sorry I did this course. You are eligable for either Kings InNs (barrister) exams or Blackhall Place (solicitor) FE1s, as well as being exempt from several of the accounting exams (don't know details).

Hope that helps, feel free to PM me if you have any questions you think I could answer!
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i have done science in UCD and also pharmacy in RCSI. PM me if you have any questions about these courses.
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The Open University

If you don't think that traditional study methods will suit you, consider the Open University. It is not cheap, but if you are working fulltime, it is possible to fit study around your other activities, and employers can sometimes be persuaded to contribute to your fees.

My experience:

Course:
BSc International Studies
Diploma in Politics and Government

Points:
No entry requirements

Number of students:
N/A - distance learning. 16 students per tutor max.

Course structure:
Depends very much on the course you are studying. You have to accummulate 360 points of study credit, 120 at each of Levels 1,2 and 3.
Courses are usually 30 or 60 points in value, 120 points of study is equivalent to one year of fulltime study at university. Credit transfer from previous study is also possible, depending on the specialism. You can complete a degree in as little as 2 years, or stretch it out over ten, depending on your particular needs and learning style.

Hours:
12-16 a week, depending again on the course you are taking.

Course Content:
You can take a variety of courses from a number of disciplines to gain a BA/BSc (Open) or specialise in a particular area. See http://www.open.ac.uk for details and student feedback for almost every course.

Summary:
There are courses to suit everyone, you can tailor your degree to suit your interests.

OU degrees are esteemed by both employers and universities - I had no problems getting onto the postgrad of my choice, and employers recognise the skills an OU student needs to be able to combine distance learning with work/life committments.

I can't really comment on individual courses, as people may take different routes. I will say that the newest courses are always the best. Older courses can be very dated as the structure of distance learning means that the materials can't be updated easily. However, they are revised regularly and I rarely had serious problems with this.

You receive all the materials you will need to complete the course. You are given access to the online library, including the EBSCO journal database. You are also provided with all the software you will need, including the OU's conferencing toolkit which is used for online tutorials, student forums and email services.
It is an excellent learning environment with the focus very much on the student and catering to their learning style. The OU has taken overall first place in UK student satisfaction surveys for the last five years.
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Anyone doing Music or Music with Arts down in Cork? Id love to hear more about it, Thanks
I nearly chose Music with Arts last year but ended up accepting Communications in DCU (btw if any of you are looking for info on that course, either ask away here, PM me, or crawl through that huge Communications topic on the DCU forum )

From what I hear it's pretty popular. I didn't look a huge amount into it but the one thing that did stand out for me is that the Music Department is actually a fair bit away from the main UCC campus...a good 15/20 minute if you're going to be staying in one of the apartments near the college. That aspect did put me off it a small bit because your classes and lessons won't just take place in the Music Dept. but also back on-campus, so you may have to go from the one place to the other during the day too.

One of my friends is just going into 3rd year in that course. If ya want to hear from him personally about the course itself, PM me and i'll send you on his e-mail address
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hey guys, anyone who's interested in doing Engineering in trinity, you can PM me cos i'm not bothered writing out a big thing now, mainly cos it's like midnite and im in the hamilton and have labs tomorrow at 9 . Give us a PM if ur interested. Engineering's great!
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Max of 28

Hours
Approx 15 in class per week. Unlimited thereafter.

Course Content
The aim of the course is to produce journalists with the skills and abilities to enter the world of the media as highly employable and workplace-expericenced individuals. It is not to produce a bunch flower-tongued Hemingways capable of winning the pulitzer prize the year after they leave Ballyfermot. All the lecturers are experienced, or still working in the media enviroment and encourage you to begin submitting peices to papers, local and national once you reach the standard expected, for most this is in the first year. They are all very approachable also due to the small class size. The modules cover all aspects needed for working in the print media. Research, Subbing, Layout & Design, News gathering and reporting, feature writing, creative writing, Media Analysis, Multimedia, Newspaper Production.

You'll learn how to pitch ideas (offer an idea to an editor), write in the various styles, layout news pages, HTML, analyse media, act in a media-related job interview and how to operate in all the roles of the newsroom.

Through out the first year the class will practice combining all these skills on various 'Newsday' excercises. On these newsdays all lectures are cancelled and the class are told they have to produce a certain number of newspaper pages from scratch by a set deadline. Each student is given a position, Editor, Deputy Editor, Sports Editor, Reporter, Sub-Ed. Layout Designer etc and the class must work together to complete the task. The final newsday is analysed and goes towards your final grade. You are also expected to source and complete 2 seperate weeks of work experience in a media organisation. There are seven modules and you submit assignments over the course of the year for all of them. Five of the modules are graded solely on the assignments submitted, and the remaining two are 50%-assignment 50%-exam, so you only sit two exams at the end of the year.

In the second year the class must produce the college newspaper off their own backs. Unlike other colleges the SU doesnt fund the paper so the class has to source its own funding - although the college will help if needed, youre expected to break even though. Last year the student newspaper won Small Publication of the year at the Student Media awards. You are expected to source and complete three weeks of work experience in the media.

Summary:
If you ask anyone in the print media about the BCFE print journalism course you will recieve a postive response. It is highly regarded due its "focus on employability" ethos. Although BCFE is a small college it has produced a few of the biggest names in the Irish media. The Print Journalism course does not confine you to working in print media either, most of Newstalk is made up of MJH (Print Journo) graduates, many of the original presenters from the early days of TV3 were from the media courses, the employment opportunities are highly varied. I'm in my second (final) year and the majority of my class already have part-time/weekend work in local newspapers around Dublin. Many of us have been published by national publications also.

Graduates of this course recieve an ordinary degree and have the opportunity to apply for an extra year to achieve a BA (Hons Degree) in Media Production Management (THREE YEAR B.A... BARGAIN!) which is issued by DCU but completed in BCFE. Alternatively you could go to the UK to do another year and recieve the BA in Print Journalism, or go to UCD/DCU/DIT for two more years (four year BA, same as starting in a Uni.) to complete a BA in Print Journalism/Alt-Media-related-course.

Points of Note:
Although this course will provide you with an excellent base to enter the media dont expect to trot along to BCFE and trot out two years later with a degree and into a job. You will get out what you put in, although the college is small and the class and lecturers know you by name they arent going to hold you by the hand and pull you through your time there. The staff will allow you make mistakes because you learn from them, they will let you make mistakes so you become more self-sufficient and use your initiative, two things needed to make it in the highly-competitive Print world. The media department is a great place to make contacts for future employment, the media is all about who-you-know unfortunately and in ten years time the who-you-know could well be the person from the Television Production course who sat two tables down from you at lunch in your BCFE days who is now sitting across the table from you at the interview.

BCFE is not DCU, DIT or Trinity, it doesnt have 20'000 students and 50 societies. The college is very friendly but not 'buzzing', although this year the SU looks very promising and highly motivated. Music and creativity are the main interests of many of the students due the abundance of music, art and fashion based courses. The average age of a first year is around 20 also, so mature students are very common. You wont find BCFE the wildest place on earth but you wont be lonely due to the small classes. I'd recommend it to anybody looking to get into the media enviroment especially those you didnt achieve high points in their LC or have been out of school a few years who always wanted to work in journalism but thought it was unattainable.


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Course: Law and arts in NUIMaynooth (New)
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The classes are small and neat with good intro material.The course is only new and the college is still trying to get a handle on it but its looking positive.
Hours are minimal and given the first year modules, alot of time is left free for the student bar Maynooth also won university of the year in the sunday times.

(This is more an plee to Dublin people, please come to maynooth and save my sanity...just too many 'cavan' people) .....damn 5 points of ucd law
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