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Have you seen this? http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055041472

[cast_iron]

It doesn't appear to contradict anything here.

[mel123]

Yes am also keeping an eye on that thread now.
I find it quite interesting to be honest. If this story is true it means that clamping in estates, car parks, shopping centres etc is all illegal.
But, if it is illegal, how are they allowed to operate anyway?!?

[Sparks]

Originally Posted by mel123

But, if it is illegal, how are they allowed to operate anyway?!?

There are a number of illegal things going unchallanged in the state at the moment. For example, the armoury in the US embassy is proof a crime was committed, but nothing has ever been done about it. The CS gas issued to the army is illegal, but nothing has ever been done about it. And so forth.

[cast_iron]

Originally Posted by Sparks

There are a number of illegal things going unchallanged in the state at the moment. For example, the armoury in the US embassy is proof a crime was committed, but nothing has ever been done about it. The CS gas issued to the army is illegal, but nothing has ever been done about it. And so forth.

Link to source?

[Sparks]

Originally Posted by cast_iron

Link to source?

Firearms Act 2006, Section 1, definition of "prohibited weapon", read with Section 2(3)(b).

[cast_iron]

Originally Posted by Sparks

Firearms Act 2006, Section 1, definition of "prohibited weapon", read with Section 2(3)(b).

I actually meant the source of the accusations, not the legal end of it.
I'm not trying to claim they are state secrets - more curiosity than anything.

[Sparks]

The US armory in the embassy has paintball guns used to fire capsaicin capsules (pepper spray, in other words). The Gardai are looking for mace, and the army's been issued with CS gas. All three from the press in the past two months. All of which are technically prohibited weapons, which cannot be held or used by anyone in the state according to the law...

[Our man in Havana]

The US embassy is technically US soil so the laws of the state don't apply.

I am sure that exemptions will be made in law to cover the army and the gardai.

[Sparks]

I said

the armoury in the US embassy is proof a crime was committed

The fact that it's US soil is not relevant - the paintball guns had to come in via Irish territory, and there they were prohibited weapons. The crime isn't possession - it was smuggling. And because of how the law is worded, there is no legal mechanism to grant licence or authorisation for anyone in the state, be they foreign or native, civilian or army or garda, to possess, use or carry things like CS, Mace, Pepper spray or stun guns.

[Our man in Havana]

Diplomatic pouch?

[Victor]

Originally Posted by Sparks

There are a number of illegal things going unchallanged in the state at the moment. For example, the armoury in the US embassy is proof a crime was committed, but nothing has ever been done about it.

Thats "Little America" - see Viennna Convention.

The CS gas issued to the army is illegal, but nothing has ever been done about it. And so forth.

Illegal to possess or illegal to use?