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17-02-2006, 20:14   #1
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hullaballoo – 20:15, 17th February 2006.

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Charter Amendment: posting and referencing articles and other external information

If any external sources of information are used in your posts, it is up to you to ensure that the proper sources are quoted and accredited. If you fail in this, it may be that your post is removed outright. If you fail on repeated occasions, you may be subject to a ban from the forum.

A proper citation for a newspaper article is e.g. "[author], Irish Times, 12th January, 200x".

Journal (legal or otherwise) should be referenced with their full citation.

The same applies to cases (to be clear: when you're quoting from a case, refer to the judge who said what you're quoting, and the case followed by the official citation).

Online media references should be submitted with a hyperlink to such resources.

General: please try to avoid posting articles and other references from non-legal sources unless it's very relevant to the discussion at hand. Media opinion pieces carry very limited weight as against a good legal argument. From the perspective of a legal discussion, there is nothing that will frustrate participents more than a solid legal argument countered with an opinion. It's like throwing rotten tomatoes at heavy artilery and then thinking you've won because no one is bothering to shoot back at you.
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Note: Fines, Summons', appearances & Brehon Lawyers

Folks,

Every day we are getting new posters basically requesting advice in relation to the subject bar of this mail.

These topics are covered in detail already. I will be actioning new threads going forward by either merging them with exisiting threads, or locking. No infractions or bans will follow.

But be aware, this is bordering on legal advice, for which a solicitor should be engaged.

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Sound stuff Tom.
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I note that a few posters seem to be posting things on threads which are not rational or acceptable by right minded thinking people.

Note: Moderators have a wide discretion to modify, snip, ban and infract on this forum/thread in relation to posters who are just clearly not in touch with the law [at all] and cannot engage in rational discourse with others [without foisting incorrect and dated views about their perceptions of the law on others - you know who you are].
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Although this should go without saying, Private Messages are just that: PRIVATE.

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Bump: Rule added in relation to threats of legal action. 08/05/2012.
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Giving advice: Hypothetically or otherwise now features in the charter. Expect a Ban for a short time.

Seeking advice, which seems to have become a popular sport here will be dealt with strictly.
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