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eth0_ · 14-10-2005, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Bluehair

I did the same thing a few weeks ago with FBD, no probs with the car being on the UK reg for a while just give them a call once you have your new plates and youre sorted.

Nice one!

Did you have to fax the a copy of your driving licence beforehand though?

Bluehair · 14-10-2005, 19:39

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Originally Posted by eth0_

Nice one!

Did you have to fax the a copy of your driving licence beforehand though?

Nope, just the ncb from previous insurer. To be honest I've been nothing but impressed by FBD especially on the phone to them, to my amazement a human being answers every time by the second ring and they always seem to know their stuff (plus they were the cheapest by far at least for me).

Just rang them a few days ago as well with the new reg, I did fax through the RF100 to them just to show it and they posted out a new disc straight away.

LordSutch · 27-10-2005, 20:54

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Originally Posted by rogue.goofball

Robert,
You seem to go for UK imports rather than from the North. As you have experience with importing, perhaps you have good reasons for this?

Stop trying to confuse us 'goofball', the North is already in the UK so importing a car into the Republic from that part of the UK is the same as importing from 'Britain' the only difference being that if you import from 'Britain' you will incur the (Extra Freight charges).....!

shamrock12345 · 19-11-2005, 11:02

Well here one that i need some info on, have an english car in ireland which i havent re registerd although i have now been instructed to do so and the VRT is huge so i said well i dont have it so i will just get rid of the car. He then said u cant do that as its been here too long (12 months on and off). The way in which he said this instantly made me think hes lying as he didnt say that much when i told him i would get rid of it then suddenly changed his line and said his boss want the vrt paid on it even though bare in mind this was over the phone and he didnt tell me to hang on while he asked his boss, so they must be telepathically linked or somthing. soall of a sudden he says i cant do it. To me it sounded like someone who got flusterd and didnt want to c a large amount of vrt go out the window.

So can i just take the car back to england and get rid of it.?

As i cant c how they can stop me as im a british citizen so hes saying im not allowed to leave the country with the car? and if the car is no longer in the country then how can they make me pay vrt on it? Any info or advice would be much appreciated especially seeing as its the weekend and i cant get hold of the accountant or the lawyer.

jayok · 19-11-2005, 11:13

Interesting one shamrock12345. I suppose it boils down to whether or not you are a resident in Ireland. If you are a resident then you will be forced to pay the VRT. If not then there's not a whole lot they can do other than threaten you. I would imagine that if it was that much of a problem for the inspector he just would have impounded it straight away.

Either way, if you are resident in Ireland, you need to register it for VRT or sell it. British citizenship has nothing to do with it, you are resident here and as such required to obey Irish laws.

Seeing as you cannot register it here as the VRT is too high) which makes me think you ARE resident here) you will need to sell it in the UK. The only thing is that I don't know if the Revenue can come to you after the fact and try to clawback VRT!

TBH unless there's a huge amount involved, I would just sell it and keep a low profile.

shamrock12345 · 19-11-2005, 11:30

Well thats what i was thinking and i imagine it would be pretty difficult for them to claw back something on a vehicle that is no longer in the country, as they would have to prove exactly how long the car was in the country for but this guy isnt just going to go away. but like i said he changed his story mid conversation and started putting pressure on me to pay the VRT so it sounded to me like he just didnt want to lose the VRt as he proaberly didnt expect me to just turn round and say fair enough i will sell it.But i shall get the accountant or the lawyers advice on monday. But once again another classic example of people mainly me in this case not knowing their rights and legal options and once again another irish department trying to steam roll you and get what they want and not presenting the facts and options.

wanwarlock · 20-11-2005, 22:30

hi guys...

my wife just moved to ireland from the uk (in august to be exact) & brought her 95 fiat punto 55s here. it is now our family car. the car is taxed and insured until the end of the month. she's used the car 3 years in the uk previously.

should i change the plates or should i just continue using the uk reg (and somehow get it insured with the uk reg + yearly MOTs up north)?

seeing the car is like 10 years old, i felt it's not worth it to get it reg here.

any advice???

thanks

ambro25 · 21-11-2005, 09:03

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Originally Posted by wanwarlock

hi guys...

(etc.)

any advice???

thanks

Aside from
_ IE Road Tax (depends on engine size),
_ IE insurance (not that much of a difference if you're not a young driver + you've got good NCB + you go for TPFT instead of fully-comp)
_ and NCT/MOT (€50-odd),

it shouldn't cost you anything (but time) to put it on IE plates. No VRT applicable as you've owned car more than 6 months before importing + considering car & value, if you do your maths right, I don't think you'd save that much compared to (i) a yearly trip up North + (ii) risk of impounding.

Hagar · 21-11-2005, 09:37

Some advice please.

I'm an Irishman legally resident in France.
I'm thinking of importing a second-hand car from the UK into France.
Second-hand cars are surprisingly expensive in France.

I have a good idea of the registration end of things here in France. So that is not really a concern for me.

I really want to know what are the technicalities of buying a second-hand car in the UK without a UK address?

jayok · 21-11-2005, 11:06

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really want to know what are the technicalities of buying a second-hand car in the UK without a UK address?

Well apart from the need to have ensured that the car is mechanically sound and the fact it is a RHD model there are no difficulties really.

Whether in Ireland or France the sale of a car to a non-resident is viewed the same by the UK DVLA. You simply pay your money and you have your V5 certificate. You can modify your address for France on this and submit it to the DVLA. Within a month you will then get a certificate of export this is all the legal requirements from the UK's perspective.

The only thing is I don't know about the French reg system....

Hagar · 21-11-2005, 12:00

Thanks for that Jayok. I'm specifically looking for LHD cars in the UK as they are worth less there

. They are scarce enough to find but I'm not in a big hurry so I can wait until something suitable turns up.

wanwarlock · 21-11-2005, 18:15

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Originally Posted by ambro25

Aside from
_ IE Road Tax (depends on engine size),
_ IE insurance (not that much of a difference if you're not a young driver + you've got good NCB + you go for TPFT instead of fully-comp)
_ and NCT/MOT (€50-odd),

it shouldn't cost you anything (but time) to put it on IE plates. No VRT applicable as you've owned car more than 6 months before importing + considering car & value, if you do your maths right, I don't think you'd save that much compared to (i) a yearly trip up North + (ii) risk of impounding.

thanks ambro25. hope i can get a few hours off work to sort this out.

michaelanthony · 30-11-2005, 11:16

Regarding the first post, it says that you pay the VRT, the get a certificate in the post a few days after. Woth this you go the the motor tax office and tax the car for the first time. I paid my VRT and didn't get anything in the post .I rang the VRT office and was told that I should take the car to the tax office, tax it and then I should receive the registration docs in the post. I'm getting it taxed today. Can anyone verify this?

jayok · 30-11-2005, 11:28

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paid my VRT and didn't get anything in the post .I rang the VRT office and was told that I should take the car to the tax office, tax it and then I should receive the registration docs in the post. I'm getting it taxed today. Can anyone verify this?

You won't get your reg documents after the VRT as they changed the system a short while ago (about 1.5 years). Bascially you should have got an RF-100A form from them that is stamped - use this to tax the car. Once the car is taxed you will receive the reg docs in the post 2 weeks later.

michaelanthony · 30-11-2005, 14:25

Cheers. Just got it taxed and they said they'd post the cert out.

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19-11-2005, 11:02	#169
shamrock12345 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Adverts \| Friends	Well here one that i need some info on, have an english car in ireland which i havent re registerd although i have now been instructed to do so and the VRT is huge so i said well i dont have it so i will just get rid of the car. He then said u cant do that as its been here too long (12 months on and off). The way in which he said this instantly made me think hes lying as he didnt say that much when i told him i would get rid of it then suddenly changed his line and said his boss want the vrt paid on it even though bare in mind this was over the phone and he didnt tell me to hang on while he asked his boss, so they must be telepathically linked or somthing. soall of a sudden he says i cant do it. To me it sounded like someone who got flusterd and didnt want to c a large amount of vrt go out the window. So can i just take the car back to england and get rid of it.? As i cant c how they can stop me as im a british citizen so hes saying im not allowed to leave the country with the car? and if the car is no longer in the country then how can they make me pay vrt on it? Any info or advice would be much appreciated especially seeing as its the weekend and i cant get hold of the accountant or the lawyer.

19-11-2005, 11:13	#170
jayok Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,706 Adverts \| Friends	Interesting one shamrock12345. I suppose it boils down to whether or not you are a resident in Ireland. If you are a resident then you will be forced to pay the VRT. If not then there's not a whole lot they can do other than threaten you. I would imagine that if it was that much of a problem for the inspector he just would have impounded it straight away. Either way, if you are resident in Ireland, you need to register it for VRT or sell it. British citizenship has nothing to do with it, you are resident here and as such required to obey Irish laws. Seeing as you cannot register it here as the VRT is too high) which makes me think you ARE resident here) you will need to sell it in the UK. The only thing is that I don't know if the Revenue can come to you after the fact and try to clawback VRT! TBH unless there's a huge amount involved, I would just sell it and keep a low profile.

19-11-2005, 11:30	#171
shamrock12345 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2 Adverts \| Friends	Well thats what i was thinking and i imagine it would be pretty difficult for them to claw back something on a vehicle that is no longer in the country, as they would have to prove exactly how long the car was in the country for but this guy isnt just going to go away. but like i said he changed his story mid conversation and started putting pressure on me to pay the VRT so it sounded to me like he just didnt want to lose the VRt as he proaberly didnt expect me to just turn round and say fair enough i will sell it.But i shall get the accountant or the lawyers advice on monday. But once again another classic example of people mainly me in this case not knowing their rights and legal options and once again another irish department trying to steam roll you and get what they want and not presenting the facts and options.

20-11-2005, 22:30	#172
wanwarlock Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: SCR, Dublin Posts: 387 Adverts \| Friends	hi guys... my wife just moved to ireland from the uk (in august to be exact) & brought her 95 fiat punto 55s here. it is now our family car. the car is taxed and insured until the end of the month. she's used the car 3 years in the uk previously. should i change the plates or should i just continue using the uk reg (and somehow get it insured with the uk reg + yearly MOTs up north)? seeing the car is like 10 years old, i felt it's not worth it to get it reg here. any advice??? thanks

21-11-2005, 09:37	#174
Hagar User 7841 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leper Colony 5 Posts: 16,205 Adverts \| Friends	Some advice please. I'm an Irishman legally resident in France. I'm thinking of importing a second-hand car from the UK into France. Second-hand cars are surprisingly expensive in France. I have a good idea of the registration end of things here in France. So that is not really a concern for me. I really want to know what are the technicalities of buying a second-hand car in the UK without a UK address?

21-11-2005, 12:00	#176
Hagar User 7841 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Leper Colony 5 Posts: 16,205 Adverts \| Friends	Thanks for that Jayok. I'm specifically looking for LHD cars in the UK as they are worth less there . They are scarce enough to find but I'm not in a big hurry so I can wait until something suitable turns up.

30-11-2005, 11:16	#178
michaelanthony Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 733 Adverts \| Friends	Regarding the first post, it says that you pay the VRT, the get a certificate in the post a few days after. Woth this you go the the motor tax office and tax the car for the first time. I paid my VRT and didn't get anything in the post .I rang the VRT office and was told that I should take the car to the tax office, tax it and then I should receive the registration docs in the post. I'm getting it taxed today. Can anyone verify this?

30-11-2005, 14:25	#180
michaelanthony Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 733 Adverts \| Friends	Cheers. Just got it taxed and they said they'd post the cert out.