[MrC]

Originally Posted by danyosan

Who the hell do you think you are? tax dodging bags?? Where in the above account do you see any intention of tax dodging? I took along all proof and the VRT decided if I had to pay any, I'd like to see where I did any dodging. Tit!

Who said I was referring to you?

[danyosan]

Originally Posted by MrC

Who said I was referring to you?

Well considering you this right after my account I'd say it's a good bet you were referring to me.
"Good to see Boards has no problem publishing accounts of how to dodge mandatory compliance with the taxation legislation of the State. "

And if by your interpretation of the law, you have to pay the tax 24hrs after coming into the country, why wasnt I charged the tax when I proved to the tax office I had been in the country for 6 months?
Dont you think that there is a provision for people to decide whether they are going to live in the country or not before they decide to re-register their car?

[Ronanom]

Hi,
Can someone answer this...

A UK reg car is in my sisters name (she lives in UK at the moment) and is currently at our home house in ireland. Am i able to drive the car (under hibernian's driving other cars policy) with the uk reg here?

[danyosan]

Yes you are entitled to drive it. I know this because recently I went back to Scotland and had the use of my Fathers car. So I contacted Hibernian and they said it was ok to drive a UK reg'd car whilst I was over there.

[Ronanom]

Originally Posted by danyosan

Yes you are entitled to drive it. I know this because recently I went back to Scotland and had the use of my Fathers car. So I contacted Hibernian and they said it was ok to drive a UK reg'd car whilst I was over there.

Ya, but from the point of view of the customs is it ok?

[jayok]

If it's not your car then customs cannot make you register it!

[Ronanom]

Originally Posted by jayok

If it's not your car then customs cannot make you register it!

Hmmm but that seems too easy of a solution...doesn't it?

[jayok]

Well it's just that easy. If you are driving your sister's car and it's not in your name there is feck all the revenue can do about it. They need to sort this out with your sis. However, there is a 3 month limit on how long a car can stay in this country on foreign plates, it is much abused at the moment, but it is the law. If you are planning on driving it for longer than this then you will have to register.

[PaulieC]

The discussion so far (mostly) seems to be focussed on importing pre-owned or pre-registered cars from the UK. I have been looking at a new Renault Grand Scenic 1.9 DCI Dynamique and have found several car supermarkets in England with pre-registered cars for sale at way below the list price. So it looks to work out like this. Sale price is 14,000 stg. As car is unregistered, I can claim VAT back which leaves the price at 11,914 stg. Converting to Euro gives a price of approx 18,000 EUR. Add VAT @21% to that gives 21780 EUR and finally add the VRT of 7645 EUR to give a grand total (without travelling expenses etc.) of 29425 EUR. List price for the same car here is 34,480 EUR.

Is it that easy? or am I missing something ?

[ds20prefecture]

why not pay VAT at 17.5%?

[PaulieC]

Because the VAT rate is 21% in this country. It's 17.5% in the UK

[jayok]

Is it that easy? or am I missing something ?

Unless you're registered for VAT, I think you'll find it doesn't seem to work like that.

Basically in the UK the seller will have to charge you VAT if you are not VAT registered. So you'll have 17.5% on the UK price. On top of this because it's a car that's less than six months the Revenue here will charge you the VRT (as expected) and the VAT @ 21% on the price again!!

I know you've already paid VAT in an EU state and legally shouldn't have to pay it again. However, this legal requirement seems to bypass the Revenue here. Either way you'll have to pay the 21% VAT here if it's new. Dealers who import don't have to worry about this as they are VAT registered.

(BTW registering for VAT is not a trivial matter and I wouldn't suggest you do it just for this transaction).


<edit> From the Revenue's website - Document on VRT

13. When is VAT chargeable and payable?

In the case of a new means of transport i.e. land vehicles (excluding agricultural tractors) that were supplied six months or less after the date of first entry into service or have travelled 6,000 Kilometres or less, VAT is chargeable and normally payable at the time of registration in the State, even where there is evidence, e.g. an invoice, that VAT was paid in the country of purchase.

VAT is also chargeable and normally payable at the time of registration in the State of vehicles (both new and used) that are imported from outside the fiscal territory of the EU.

[PaulieC]

thx Jayok. I have the number for the UK Customs and Excise office to check on the VAT payment.
Obviously, it wouldn't be a viable transaction if I couldn't get the UK VAT back. I don't know if you have to be VAT registered though - as far as I can ascertain, once the car is unregistered and you can prove it's for export, you can either a) not pay it or b) claim it back.
Will report back when I know more

[eth0_]

Quick question - i've not owned a car before and i'm not on anyones insurance, but i'm planning on buying a car up the north next month.
When I buy it, can I just ring up Quinn etc and explain that I need cover on a UK reg for the month or do you need to be an existing customer for them to do this?

[Bluehair]

Originally Posted by eth0_

When I buy it, can I just ring up Quinn etc and explain that I need cover on a UK reg for the month or do you need to be an existing customer for them to do this?

I did the same thing a few weeks ago with FBD, no probs with the car being on the UK reg for a while just give them a call once you have your new plates and youre sorted.