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jammy_dodger · 07-06-2003, 21:24

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And I thought life was all sold out of rose coloured glasses...

Im not naive, I just dont sleep around, and tend to get to know a person before id sleep with them, form a relationship.

For the record, I always cover me lad, and have never had unprotected sex.
I just wanted to state that, under certain circumstances that you could have unprotected sex, ie your wife
But im now going off topic so ill STOP
As for has STI awareness failed in this country?
IMO i think everyone is aware, but they just don't care(hey that rhymes) People just shrug it off, and 'say' oh that wont happen to me. Im a firm believer in murphy law, if it can happen. It will happen. i agree that our drinking culture has a lot to do with it too.

Zombrex · 08-06-2003, 20:37

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Originally posted by simu
Many students and 2ndary school students have difficulty paying for one or more visits to a doctor to get treated and for the medicine needed to treat these infections.

Most public hospitals have free STD clinics where you can get checked and recieve treatment free of charge .. if you are paying for an STD check (and there are a lot of doctors that charge an arm and leg) you are going to the wrong place.

I total agree that there should be a better system for those who think they have something (and who find out they have something). There is so much put on NOT GETTING ANYTHING, that if you do catch something (like myself, thank god nothing serious healthwise - btw I have never had unprotected sex) you feel like you have fallen out of the system and basically your sex life is over.

The nurses in the clinic were very bad at any form of support and basically got me out as quickly as possible so they could see the next person. The handed me a piece of photocopied paper to read which basically said the best think I could do is to not catch it in the first place. Lot of help that was.

bug · 08-06-2003, 21:45

One thing that always gets me is that cartoon poster in me GP's office which shows two people one of which has a speech bubble saiying I've only slept with one person, and then the poster branches out from his partner, who's previous partner has slept with one women and two men,who have slept with... anyways, it branches out much like a family tree.
I think this poster should be up in every school.
Me personally-we got our sex education in fifth year in secondary school, and I dont recall any mention of STI's.
I go for a full screening every year, even though I have the same partner for the last six years and no-one else. It not that I don't trust him, I do, but as far as STI's are concerned I'm putting my own health first. The infidelity issue doesn't bother me as far as a partner sleeping with someone else, but I will never forget that married man a friend of mine met in Stephen's green. He had two kids and a high profile sales job, he had just been diagnosed with HIV, due to his wife's infidelity..its not a case of someone doing the dirt its a case of someone handing you a death sentance because of their actions, so I tell my boyfriend I get a frequent screening, and If he gets peeved at me ,tough, I'm looking out for myself.

patch · 09-06-2003, 14:40

Well said Bug. By the way , keep going on this topic. Every post I read like the previous one, pushes me closer to going for that test..........

GuanYin · 10-09-2003, 10:22

Just saw the news that we have a 34% rise in HIV infections in 2002 (thats 364 of the total 3700-ish we have ever diagnosed, the 34% relates to those that are actually alive and in the state).

The statistics are somewhat biased as of those 364 cases approx 250 were pre-existing cases in immigrants coming into the country. Over half the new cases were women and 80% were under 40.

However, the disease is still most prevelant in Ireland among white heterosexual Irish men aged under 25.

***Beruthiel*** · 10-09-2003, 10:35

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Originally posted by sykeirl
Just saw the news that we have a 34% rise in HIV infections in 2002

indeed, I cannot remember the last time I saw an ad campaigne on this, do they forget that there are new generations of people who need to be informed. There is no doubt about it, if no one’s talking about it, it's forgotten

Nevyn · 10-09-2003, 13:08

Well until we get proper health based
sex education in schools this will always be an issue.

Jak · 10-09-2003, 13:32

Those statistics can be very misleading, as skyirl just pointed out.

STI's are an area for concern always and deserve ongoing information campaigns, but from what I have seen of this report, it is all presented in a rather more serious light than I believe is the actual case.

Immigrants inflating national statistics is a sure way to misrepresent the reality for native Irish and their sexual practices to date.

I always trust clear absolute numbers far more than percentage changes.

JAK.

Dakeyras · 10-09-2003, 13:35

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Originally posted by Thaed
Well until we get proper health based
sex education in schools this will always be an issue.

i always think there's been an issue with this, particularly in Ireland, with the uncomfortablness of both parents and schools in general with the subject of sex and the view of the catholic church on contraception as well. Thankfully the uncomfortablness is changing with the younger generations but it still has an impact on getting the proper sex education in schools.

DMT · 10-09-2003, 13:44

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Originally posted by Dakeyras
the view of the catholic church on contraception as well.

It always amazes me to think that are people who refuse to use contraception because they are Catholic, but have no problem in committing a "bigger sin" by having sex outside marriage. Where does this idiocy originate from?

Lemming · 10-09-2003, 13:49

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Originally posted by DMT
It always amazes me to think that are people who refuse to use contraception because they are Catholic, but have no problem in committing a "bigger sin" by having sex outside marriage. Where does this idiocy originate from?

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Obviously it's better to die in sin than live in sin in the Church's eyes

Oriel · 10-09-2003, 13:51

Bear in mind that it's not just sex that spreads HIV...

Nevyn · 10-09-2003, 14:22

Well health based sex education will
include STI and condoms.

It still boggles me the ammount of young people who in college didnt know how to open or use a condom correctly and these werent virgins.

And not every one would attend a safe sex workshop to learn and that is those who get into college. The fight against the lack of information on thise type of stuff should not be left to S.U. officers.

and broad minded sisters that embarass the hell out of thier siblings on thier 16 birthday with a safe sex kit .
ok it was fun

Dakeyras · 10-09-2003, 14:31

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Originally posted by Thaed

and broad minded sisters that embarass the hell out of thier siblings on thier 16 birthday with a safe sex kit .
ok it was fun

lol
brilliant. the poor girl probably didn't know where to turn.

Nevyn · 10-09-2003, 18:50

well the 3 sisters that got gifted with the kit took it well it was in fact my lil brother that was shocked.

08-06-2003, 21:45	#18
bug Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dublin Posts: 2,099 Adverts \| Friends	One thing that always gets me is that cartoon poster in me GP's office which shows two people one of which has a speech bubble saiying I've only slept with one person, and then the poster branches out from his partner, who's previous partner has slept with one women and two men,who have slept with... anyways, it branches out much like a family tree. I think this poster should be up in every school. Me personally-we got our sex education in fifth year in secondary school, and I dont recall any mention of STI's. I go for a full screening every year, even though I have the same partner for the last six years and no-one else. It not that I don't trust him, I do, but as far as STI's are concerned I'm putting my own health first. The infidelity issue doesn't bother me as far as a partner sleeping with someone else, but I will never forget that married man a friend of mine met in Stephen's green. He had two kids and a high profile sales job, he had just been diagnosed with HIV, due to his wife's infidelity..its not a case of someone doing the dirt its a case of someone handing you a death sentance because of their actions, so I tell my boyfriend I get a frequent screening, and If he gets peeved at me ,tough, I'm looking out for myself.

09-06-2003, 14:40	#19
patch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Galway Posts: 2,249 Adverts \| Friends	Well said Bug. By the way , keep going on this topic. Every post I read like the previous one, pushes me closer to going for that test..........

10-09-2003, 10:22	#20
GuanYin Miss Chief Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,888 Adverts \| Friends	Just saw the news that we have a 34% rise in HIV infections in 2002 (thats 364 of the total 3700-ish we have ever diagnosed, the 34% relates to those that are actually alive and in the state). The statistics are somewhat biased as of those 364 cases approx 250 were pre-existing cases in immigrants coming into the country. Over half the new cases were women and 80% were under 40. However, the disease is still most prevelant in Ireland among white heterosexual Irish men aged under 25.

10-09-2003, 13:08	#22
Nevyn Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 42,870 Adverts \| Friends	Well until we get proper health based sex education in schools this will always be an issue.

10-09-2003, 13:32	#23
Jak Registered User Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,631 Adverts \| Friends	Those statistics can be very misleading, as skyirl just pointed out. STI's are an area for concern always and deserve ongoing information campaigns, but from what I have seen of this report, it is all presented in a rather more serious light than I believe is the actual case. Immigrants inflating national statistics is a sure way to misrepresent the reality for native Irish and their sexual practices to date. I always trust clear absolute numbers far more than percentage changes. JAK.

10-09-2003, 13:51	#27
Oriel Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Antrim Posts: 5,070 Adverts \| Friends	Bear in mind that it's not just sex that spreads HIV...

10-09-2003, 14:22	#28
Nevyn Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 42,870 Adverts \| Friends	Well health based sex education will include STI and condoms. It still boggles me the ammount of young people who in college didnt know how to open or use a condom correctly and these werent virgins. And not every one would attend a safe sex workshop to learn and that is those who get into college. The fight against the lack of information on thise type of stuff should not be left to S.U. officers. and broad minded sisters that embarass the hell out of thier siblings on thier 16 birthday with a safe sex kit . ok it was fun

10-09-2003, 18:50	#30
Nevyn Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 42,870 Adverts \| Friends	well the 3 sisters that got gifted with the kit took it well it was in fact my lil brother that was shocked.