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Taxi driver's knowledge levels

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    #32
    amdublin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 20,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Kiera wrote: »
    WTF? Your opinion is fúcked up so! The colour of the taxi drivers skin shouldnt come into it at all!

    And lol @ probably from Africa. Could he not have been from London...

    Or even ireland! No, lol, his skin is black so he's from Africa. What a stupid way to think lol.


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    #33
    Sky King
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    At the risk of being branded a 'racialist' I would say statistically that the vast majority of black taxi drivers in Dublin are African.


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    #34
    amdublin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 20,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Sky King wrote: »
    At the risk of being branded a 'racialist' I would say statistically that the vast majority of black taxi drivers in Dublin are African.

    Would you please post these statistics to actually prove this statement.


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    #35
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Got into taxi earlier this year on Thomas Street, inbound direction

    Me: Front of Trinity College - wheres that?
    Me: College Green - wheres that?

    Me: Straight ahead I'll tell you when

    That driver shouldn't be on the road


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    #36
    Sky King
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    amdublin wrote: »
    Would you please post these statistics to actually prove this statement.

    I am just speaking from experience but I am a ledge-bomb at statistics so I am so you'll just have to take my word for it.


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    #37
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Taxi drivers' knowledge levels are very low.

    Taximen/women are the most knowledgeable people on the planet.


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    #38
    amdublin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 20,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Got into taxi earlier this year on Thomas Street, inbound direction

    Me: Front of Trinity College - wheres that?
    Me: College Green - wheres that?

    Me: Straight ahead I'll tell you when

    That driver shouldn't be on the road

    Completely agree.

    And wow! You didn't need to say what colour the driver's skin was. Because it doesn't matter!! Sh1t driver was sh1t. Black or white, doesn't matter, still sh1t.


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    #39
    kerash
    Registered Users Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Got into taxi earlier this year on Thomas Street, inbound direction

    Me: Front of Trinity College - wheres that?
    Me: College Green - wheres that?

    Me: Straight ahead I'll tell you when

    That driver shouldn't be on the road

    Make an official complaint.


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    #40
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    amdublin wrote: »
    Or even ireland! No, lol, his skin is black so he's from Africa. What a stupid way to think lol.

    A black guy from Liberia did tell me that once your skin is black that you're from Africa.


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    #41
    amdublin
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    Sky King wrote: »
    At the risk of being branded a 'racialist' I would say statistically that the vast majority of black taxi drivers in Dublin are African.
    Sky King wrote: »
    I am just speaking from experience but I am a ledge-bomb at statistics so I am so you'll just have to take my word for it.

    Why if you are speaking just from your experience did you originally say statistically :confused:

    Statitically indicates you have statistics which could change comments that sound really stupid into actual fact.

    But seeing as you don't actually have statistics (surprising with your "ledge-bomb" skills) it means that your originally statement still sounds really really stupid.


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    #42
    Diddler1977
    Registered Users Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭Diddler1977


    Palmy wrote: »
    Just to note,I had an English girl a few years ago who flew in to try out for the x factor.She jumped in and asked if it would be the same fare she payed this morning to come to Croke park.I said how much did you pay the taxi from the airport to croke park,she answered €28,Jesus i said it shouldn't have been more than €12-14 at the most.I did ask if it was a coloured guy which she answered NO he was Irish.So dont point the finger at all the coloured guys.

    Is your taxi a time machine and did this conversation take place in the 1950's in Mississippi?


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    #43
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Here can we stop calling them 'Black Taxi Drivers'.




    The politically correct term is Blaxi.


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    #44
    Palmy
    Registered Users Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    The pass mark is the same for everyone weather your Black/White or Blue in the Psv test.Its a urban myth that non nationals only need a pass mark of 50%.The problem is that you could do a one day pre psv course for €300 and they pretty much give you all the answers you need to pass.This has now changed and the test is alot harder and the question bank is massive.Cutting those out just studying the questions in order to pass the test.I find it very hard to believe a taxi man not knowing where college green is or the front of trinity.They are either working under a false name ot only licenced in another area.The idea of the new D on the plate shows you the driver is licenced to drive in Dublin.Alot of guys licenced to drive in Meath/Kildare and Wicklow come into Dublin city center to work because the money is better.By law i can take someone to Bray from Dublin but if someone flags you down in Bray looking to go to Dublin city center you cant pick them up unless the are up at the top of Bray round about where the Dublin county starts.You could risk it but if a Wicklow driver catches you,your most likely get a Dig:cool:


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    #45
    Sky King
    Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Why if you are speaking just from your experience did you originally say statistically

    100% of black taxi drivers I have used in dublin were African. I always chat to them and usually ask where they were from. I have been getting taxis in dublin for years now.

    Obviously this does not mean that 100% of black taxi drivers actually are African since I doubt I have used the entire population of black taxi drivers in Dublin but I think my sample is fairly representative and using it as a guide I think it would be acceptable to say that statistically speaking and based on an extensive random sample taken over the course of a few years, the majority of them are Afican.
    Statitically indicates you have statistics which could change comments that sound really stupid into actual fact.
    Statistics is never actual fact, so you're quite wrong there. Statistics is actually quite the opposite, its about using randomly sampled data to make an informed guess in the absence of fact.


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    #46
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Just thought I would post that not everything is black & white and the real reason is that this my 3000 post, Thanks.


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    #47
    mconigol
    Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    amdublin wrote: »
    Would you please post these statistics to actually prove this statement.

    oh grow up.

    It's pretty obvious in a predominantly white country ffs.


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    #48
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Fox Disgusting Tiddlywinks wrote: »
    For the love of God why does this always come up when colour is mentioned.

    The taxi driver was black, and probably from Africa and a significant number of people complain about a bad service from this sector of the taxi industry - so yes IMO its ok to identify the colour or race of someone.

    Have to agree with you Maki and I dont ever agree with you - What's scary is the veiled racism by people that dont think they being racist at all - For some reason calling a person African is some kinda horrible slur, but
    what's wrong with being from Africa? I've 2 cousins from Madagasger who hold French passports but they're still very proud to be African.

    I know if i assumed a white south african was European well he'd probably laugh and tell a story about how he's originally from Europe -

    Same as if you call an english girl african - she'd say well I'm english but my decents are from Eygpt -

    I actually know a few English people and they'd be very proud of their African Heritege even though they hold UK passports.


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    Kiera wrote: »
    WTF? Your opinion is fúcked up so! The colour of the taxi drivers skin shouldnt come into it at all!

    And lol @ probably from Africa. Could he not have been from London...
    amdublin wrote: »
    Or even ireland! No, lol, his skin is black so he's from Africa. What a stupid way to think lol.


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    #49
    Diddler1977
    Registered Users Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭Diddler1977


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Have to agree with you Maki and I dont ever agree with you - What's scary is the veiled racism by people that dont think they being racist at all - For some reason calling a person African is some kinda horrible slur, but
    what's wrong with being from Africa? I've 2 cousins from Madagasger who hold French passports but they're still very proud to be African.

    I know if i assumed a white south african was European well he'd probably laugh and tell a story about how he's originally from Europe -

    Same as if you call an english girl african - she'd say well I'm english but my decents are from Eygpt -

    I actually know a few English people and they'd be very proud of their African Heritege even though they hold UK passports.


    Typical examples below.

    It's the automatic assumption that someone who is black is non irish is the problem.....


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    #50
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Have to agree with you Maki and I dont ever agree with you - What's scary is the veiled racism by people that dont think they being racist at all - For some reason calling a person African is some kinda horrible slur, but
    what's wrong with being from Africa? I've 2 cousins from Madagasger who hold French passports but they're still very proud to be African.

    I know if i assumed a white south african was European well he'd probably laugh and tell a story about how he's originally from Europe -

    Same as if you call an english girl african - she'd say well I'm english but my decents are from Eygpt -

    I actually know a few English people and they'd be very proud of their African Heritege even though they hold UK passports.


    Typical examples below.

    So tell me why its ok to identify the colour or race of someone driving a taxi?


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    #51
    amdublin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 20,650 CMod ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Sky King wrote: »
    100% of black taxi drivers I have used in dublin were African. I always chat to them and usually ask where they were from. I have been getting taxis in dublin for years now.

    Obviously this does not mean that 100% of black taxi drivers actually are African since I doubt I have used the entire population of black taxi drivers in Dublin but I think my sample is fairly representative and using it as a guide I think it would be acceptable to say that statistically speaking and based on an extensive random sample taken over the course of a few years, the majority of them are Afican.


    Statistics is never actual fact, so you're quite wrong there. Statistics is actually quite the opposite, its about using randomly sampled data to make an informed guess in the absence of fact.

    Hmm, no I'd argue what you posted is still just anecedotel evidence.

    Apologies I should have said liklihood rather than fact
    mconigol wrote: »
    oh grow up.

    It's pretty obvious in a predominantly white country ffs.

    WTF. You grow up and face the fact that because someone's skin is black does not mean they are African.

    If your grandparents were black and African and moved to France and their kids (your parents) were then born in France. And they moved to London and you were born in London - UK citizen - because you are black it means you're African?? No it bloody does not. If every black person you meet you automatically think they are African you need to grow up!
    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Have to agree with you Maki and I dont ever agree with you - What's scary is the veiled racism by people that dont think they being racist at all - For some reason calling a person African is some kinda horrible slur, but
    what's wrong with being from Africa? I've 2 cousins from Madagasger who hold French passports but they're still very proud to be African.

    I know if i assumed a white south african was European well he'd probably laugh and tell a story about how he's originally from Europe -

    Same as if you call an english girl african - she'd say well I'm english but my decents are from Eygpt -

    I actually know a few English people and they'd be very proud of their African Heritege even though they hold UK passports.


    Typical examples below.

    The problem is the context. The context that the taxi driver was black and a bad taxi driver....and from that Maikomi said there were many complaints about black taxi drivers.....which somehow meant it was okay to give out about all black taxi drivers.

    Of course there is nothing wrong with describing someone as black or African if they clearly are. But the problem is when you blame a whole group of black taxi drivers because some of them are bad.

    I've had bad white taxi drivers in the past but I don't think that all white taxi drivers are bad because of that.


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    #52
    Oranage2
    Registered Users Posts: 11,131 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Kiera wrote: »
    So tell me why its ok to identify the colour or race of someone driving a taxi?

    The white girl in Tesco was rude

    nothin wrong with that sentence is there


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    #53
    BBDBB
    Registered Users Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The white girl in Tesco was rude

    nothin wrong with that sentence is there


    what does her skin colour have to do with her behaviour?


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    amdublin
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The white girl in Tesco was rude

    nothin wrong with that sentence is there

    Why would you mention the colour of her skin at all :confused:

    What bearing does it have on her actions?


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    #55
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The white girl in Tesco was rude

    nothin wrong with that sentence is there

    Da fúck? Why would you mention her skin colour? That's just weird!

    "the white butcher only gave me 4 chops instead of 5"

    "the white teacher gave out in class"

    "the white postman delivered the wrong post to my house"

    Weird!


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    #56
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    This world is becoming mental.
    Are we honestly not allowed to refer to someone as "black" under no circumstances?

    So im in a job. Someone asks me where they can find Michael (or what ever name) and what does he look like... I go erm "about tall ... erm ... dark hair... erm ... wearing a red tshirt you cant miss him! " :rolleyes: god forbid if I say "black chap wearing a red shirt"


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    #57
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    How come this thread isn't being pulled as being completely off topic:confused:

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #58
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Feisar wrote: »
    How come this thread isn't being pulled as being completely off topic:confused:

    Yeah I know what you mean.
    Reminds me of this time i was in galway ... blah blah blah. Now we're talking about galway. lol.


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    #59
    Kiera
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Feisar wrote: »
    How come this thread isn't being pulled as being completely off topic:confused:

    Cause the OP's question was answered and now a new topic has taken over.


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    #60
    amdublin
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    LighterGuy wrote: »
    This world is becoming mental.
    Are we honestly not allowed to refer to someone as "black" under no circumstances?

    So im in a job. Someone asks me where they can find Michael (or what ever name) and what does he look like... I go erm "about tall ... erm ... dark hair... erm ... wearing a red tshirt you cant miss him! " :rolleyes: god forbid if I say "black chap wearing a red shirt"

    I do understand the above. It is difficult to get used to but I certainly would try to avoid it....

    bUT if you end up doing it in the above example I don't think it is the worst I the world.

    It is when people say things like jeez I had a bad experience with a black taxi driver last night and it turns into a big rant about yeah how bad black taxi drivers are :rolleyes:


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    #61
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    when i was doing my theory there was two middle aged taxi drivers who had to do the taxi one to get the new licence and they had to no all the roads in Tipperary not just south tipp where they worked so they have to know a lot considering very few people would be getting a taxi from clonmel to north tipp


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