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UPC Thomson TWG-870U & Technicolor TC7200 - Enabling "Cable modem" mode - basic guide

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    #542
    carbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭carbsy


    Had to reboot mine due to dire speeds yesterday evening and can confirm it's gone back to non bridged mode. It doesn't look like a full modem reset as the wireless is still disabled. This would be enabled by default IIRC.

    Eitherway, rubbish speeds still.... hmmmm on the 240 and getting about 40.


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    #543
    [Deleted User]
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    carbsy wrote: »
    Had to reboot mine due to dire speeds yesterday evening and can confirm it's gone back to non bridged mode. It doesn't look like a full modem reset as the wireless is still disabled. This would be enabled by default IIRC.

    Eitherway, rubbish speeds still.... hmmmm on the 240 and getting about 40.

    Yeah, definitely not a full reset. My WiFi was still disabled, as was the firewall.


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    #544
    techdiver
    Registered Users Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭techdiver


    When did this start happening?

    I have a TC7200. I had to reboot it on Tuesday night and it is still in bridge mode.


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    #545
    Dave..M
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    My TWG was still bridged yesterday, is it just the TC's this is impacting or has anyone else with a TWG also lost bridge? A very unwelcome development to be sure.


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    #546
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I've a TWG still bridged but there's no way in rebooting if I can help it.


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    #547
    [Deleted User]
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    Dave..M wrote: »
    My TWG was still bridged yesterday, is it just the TC's this is impacting or has anyone else with a TWG also lost bridge? A very unwelcome development to be sure.
    Have you rebooted? If not, then don't. As long as you don't reboot the modem you'll probably be OK (until you have to for whatever reason).


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    #548
    carbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭carbsy


    Dave..M wrote: »
    My TWG was still bridged yesterday, is it just the TC's this is impacting or has anyone else with a TWG also lost bridge? A very unwelcome development to be sure.

    Mine's a Thompson TWG.


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    #549
    Dave..M
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    Karsini wrote: »
    Have you rebooted? If not, then don't. As long as you don't reboot the modem you'll probably be OK (until you have to for whatever reason).

    Not yet and I see Carbsy did and lost bridge. This is extremely perplexing, I was looking at buying a new Asus to replace my tired C7 but will have to hold off now which is not ideal as my trusty C7 is getting a bit skittery. I was really hoping the TWG would be forgotten by UPC at this point. I realIy struggle to understand their logic. I wonder do they want to harvest our Irish IPv4 addresses for larger markets (UK?) and chuck us all on DS Lite over here.


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    #550
    white_westie
    Registered Users Posts: 619 ✭✭✭white_westie


    Dave..M wrote: »
    I wonder do they want to harvest our Irish IPv4 addresses for larger markets (UK?) and chuck us all on DS Lite over here.
    DS Lite .....:eek: but does raise the question
    When you lose bridge mode do you get an IPv4 public address or a DS Lite enabled IPv6 one?


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    #551
    [Deleted User]
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    white_westie wrote: »
    DS Lite .....:eek: but does raise the question
    When you lose bridge mode do you get an IPv4 public address or a DS Lite enabled IPv6 one?

    Still getting IPv4 myself for now.


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    #552
    Dave..M
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    Link below for people to check, the IPv6 test should fail if you are not on DS Lite

    http://ipv6.whatismyv6.com

    Edit: I presume the router management page should also show DS Lite status but not sure with the TWG, it is fairly aged at this point and my faith in UPC is not at an all-time high.


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    #553
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    So came back from work yesterday and the internet and phone wasn't working. Got onto my mate two mates on UPC and theirs was working. Naturally I assumed our setup got messed up somehow.

    Reset everything back to factory default. Plugged directly in TC7200 and still no internet. Turns out it was down in our area.

    Came back up at half 7. Bridged it as I've always done, plugged into my Archer router and internet wasn't working.

    Went back and checked my TC7200 and what did they do, but enable Wi-Free on my router....
    So I had to log into my account and opt out of it and now I have to wait 72 hours for it to take effect so I can setup my Asus router again. Good job Virgin, Good job.


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    #554
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    Alan3002 wrote: »
    So came back from work yesterday and the internet and phone wasn't working. Got onto my mate two mates on UPC and theirs was working. Naturally I assumed our setup got messed up somehow.

    Reset everything back to factory default. Plugged directly in TC7200 and still no internet. Turns out it was down in our area.

    Came back up at half 7. Bridged it as I've always done, plugged into my Archer router and internet wasn't working.

    Went back and checked my TC7200 and what did they do, but enable Wi-Free on my router....
    So I had to log into my account and opt out of it and now I have to wait 72 hours for it to take effect so I can setup my Asus router again. Good job Virgin, Good job.
    You won't be able to bridge it I'm afraid. They've disabled it entirely now. :(


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    #555
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    You won't be able to bridge it I'm afraid. They've disabled it entirely now. :(

    What!?! Seriously!?
    Wow, they are losing major points with me for this. I think everyone knows the TC7200 router on it's own is a complete piece of junk

    Wow I looked back on the thread and it seems so. Major disappointment.


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    #556
    Dave..M
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    carbsy wrote: »
    Mine's a Thompson TWG.

    Hey Carbsy, supposedly this is fixed now (per below thread in VM support), it would be great to know whilst this is still topical if you are able to set it back to bridge.


    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057514734/29/#post97614692

    Tks
    Dave


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    #557
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    I could kinda bridge but it doesn't work.

    They pushed down Wi-Free to me during the outage and even though I opted out of it 5 days ago it's still live and causing issues.

    I'm on their forum hoping to get this resolved :/


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    #558
    Dave..M
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Dave..M


    Alan3002 wrote: »
    I could kinda bridge but it doesn't work.

    They pushed down Wi-Free to me during the outage and even though I opted out of it 5 days ago it's still live and causing issues.

    I'm on their forum hoping to get this resolved :/

    Hmm I wonder is it the wifree or that bridge isn't re enabled on the TWG (presume you have the TWG870?)


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    #559
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Dave..M wrote: »
    Hmm I wonder is it the wifree or that bridge isn't re enabled on the TWG (presume you have the TWG870?)

    No I'm on the TC7200 here!

    Whenever I do the first few steps in bridging process and get less items in UI then I start getting an IPv6 address.

    Restore to factory default and I'm back on IPv4 :confused::confused:


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    #560
    [Deleted User]
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    Alan3002 wrote: »
    No I'm on the TC7200 here!

    Whenever I do the first few steps in bridging process and get less items in UI then I start getting an IPv6 address.

    Restore to factory default and I'm back on IPv4 :confused::confused:

    What are the first 4 digits of the IPv6 address? fe80 or 2a02?


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    #561
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    What are the first 4 digits of the IPv6 address? fe80 or 2a02?

    Crap I didn't take note and won't be at it again until tomorrow as I've some stuff running for the night.

    I was able to run one of those IPv6 websites though and it said "Your all ready to go for IPv6 based websites!" or something along that line.

    I'm assuming it's Wi-Free since it's still enabled and has full signal strength by my router.


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    #562
    [Deleted User]
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    Sounds like you might be in DS-Lite mode as well as having Wi-Free enabled!


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    #563
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    Sounds like you might be in DS-Lite mode as well as having Wi-Free enabled!

    Oh Christ. Everything turned to **** after this outage :(
    I'll be on to the reps tomorrow and hopefully they can resolve this for me.


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    #564
    [Deleted User]
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    Alan3002 wrote: »
    Oh Christ. Everything turned to **** after this outage :(
    I'll be on to the reps tomorrow and hopefully they can resolve this for me.

    You can confirm this by logging into the TC7200. On the home page, you'll see a mention of a DS-Lite AFTR FQDN, and the WAN IP address will be an IPv6 one.


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    #565
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Hmmmm doesn't seem to be any mention of it.

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    #566
    [Deleted User]
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    Yeah you're right. Click Basic along the top and see what you have there. :)


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    #567
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    Yeah you're right. Click Basic along the top and see what you have there. :)

    Here ya go mate.

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    #568
    [Deleted User]
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    Hmm, so you're definitely not on DS-Lite. Either you're on a proper Dual Stack connection, (not Lite) or your router is establishing a 6to4 tunnel.


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    #569
    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    Hmm, so you're definitely not on DS-Lite. Either you're on a proper Dual Stack connection, (not Lite) or your router is establishing a 6to4 tunnel.

    That reminds me!! When I was doing it that IPv6 page said I'm using 6to4 but I didn't know what that was.


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    #570
    [Deleted User]
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    Alan3002 wrote: »
    That reminds me!! When I was doing it that IPv6 page said I'm using 6to4 but I didn't know what that was.

    That explains it. :)

    Nothing wrong with your bridge so. 6to4 is a tunnel service that encapsulates IPv6 packets in IPv4 so you can access IPv6 services without native ISP support. I can enable it on mine but I have it disabled for now. Requires a public IP so doesn't work on a non-bridged connection.


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    Alan3002
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Alan3002


    Karsini wrote: »
    That explains it. :)

    Nothing wrong with your bridge so. 6to4 is a tunnel service that encapsulates IPv6 packets in IPv4 so you can access IPv6 services without native ISP support. I can enable it on mine but I have it disabled for now. Requires a public IP so doesn't work on a non-bridged connection.

    Thanks for the explanation!

    Hmmm so I should be able to disable this option myself?


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