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N5 Ballaghaderreen Bypass

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  • #92
    Sponge Bob
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    Dont forget that Tulsk could be a World Heritage site within a few years either. :)


  • #93
    lotusm
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Dont forget that Tulsk could be a World Heritage site within a few years either. :)
    Roscommon Co. Co. have taken the archaeological sites in to account looking at document I attached and speaking to the road design team they did not consider the carrick option. Eventhough it would be an alternative route it roughly 24 Km from Frenchpark (google maps) to Carrick and roughly 30 KM going to Strokes town would finish it, for the sake additional 6Km it wont be break the bank. Also Why would the govt have started the Longford Bypass to the N5 if not to join it up in time unless I am missing something . ;)


  • #94
    Sponge Bob
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    True about the route selection . The N4 justifies a 2+2 or Motorway (Carrick-Mullingar) once the N5 joins as Westtip also pointed out. The N5 alone only warrants Reduced S2. Factor that in too.


  • #95
    joujoujou
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    Well, if we're digging so deep trying to find alternative routes, why not think about upgrading miserable N17 between Charlestown and Collooney? ;)

    The part located between Charlestown and Tubbercurry goes very close to unused from ages railroad - and that is quite straight compare to the road itself, so it'd be (IMO) worth thinking about (don't know how that railroad goes further). :)


  • #96
    antoobrien
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    joujoujou wrote: »
    Well, if we're digging so deep trying to find alternative routes, why not think about upgrading miserable N17 between Charlestown and Collooney? ;)

    The part located between Charlestown and Tubbercurry goes very close to unused from ages railroad - and that is quite straight compare to the road itself, so it'd be (IMO) worth thinking about (don't know how that railroad goes further). :)

    There are already plans for this as part of the Atlantic Corridor:

    Tobercurry to Knock (incl. Charlestown Bypass)

    Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass

    Tobercurry Bypass


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  • #97
    joujoujou
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    Yeah, 2 out of 3 suspended. :p


  • #98
    Mr Cumulonimbus
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    Pieces from the Mayo News and the Western People about the sod turning ceremony and work getting under way.


  • #99
    Sponge Bob
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    Good God I never knew that N17 Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass was still alive and in planning. :eek:


  • #100
    spacetweek
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Good God I never knew that N17 Collooney to Tobercurry Bypass was still alive and in planning. :eek:
    I just checked my own records here that I keep and that project was indeed suspended in 2011, they must have reactivated it on the qt.


  • #101
    Shane Rapping Lumberyard
    Posts: 0 ✭ Shane Rapping Lumberyard


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Indeed I just checked my own records here that I keep and that project was indeed suspended in 2011, they must have reactivated it on the qt.

    It is one of the slowest and most dangerous stretches between Sligo and Galway. Hopefully it will be started this decade.


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  • #102
    Mr Cumulonimbus
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    Report from the Roscommon People on the commencement of the scheme.


  • #103
    Geogregor
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    So, how is this project going? Any major works done this winter?
    Maybe some local folks could check it out and post some pictures.


  • #104
    antoobrien
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    Geogregor wrote: »
    So, how is this project going? Any major works done this winter?
    Maybe some local folks could check it out and post some pictures.

    I've been talking to a lad that's part of the project, they're doing a lot of heavy digging. can't give any more detail than that really.


  • #105
    macker16
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    they are heading down into a bog at the moment with fill .they are fairly moving


  • #106
    Geogregor
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    Are there any significant structures (bridges, overpasses) or is it fairly straightforward project?


  • #107
    serfboard
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    macker16 wrote: »
    they are heading down into a bog at the moment with fill
    I'd say there'd be a whole lot of bog on this project.


  • #108
    spacetweek
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    Geogregor wrote: »
    Are there any significant structures (bridges, overpasses) or is it fairly straightforward project?
    The new route does not cross the old one so I would imagine there are not too many bridges.


  • #109
    antoobrien
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    The new route does not cross the old one so I would imagine there are not too many bridges.

    There would also be bridges if it's crossing rail lines (don't know if there is one), minor roads & rivers. There are 50+ structures along the M6 Galway - Ballinasloe, it crosses the old N6 once.


  • #110
    Neworder79
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    R293 Ballaghaderreen-Sligo is the only "major" road crossing, will become the new junction for the town. It crosses several minior link roads, and the Lung river near where it joins Lough Gara so there could be a wide structure there.

    Ballaghaderreen-Kilfree rail line pulled up in 60s. Some of the embankment remains but not much else in the area.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/5994423216/


  • #111
    L1011
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    Occasionally former trackbeds are still boxed to allow for potential reopenings/greenways/paths.


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  • #112
    spacetweek
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    There would also be bridges if it's crossing rail lines (don't know if there is one), minor roads & rivers. There are 50+ structures along the M6 Galway - Ballinasloe, it crosses the old N6 once.
    True, but I'd imagine most or all of the minor road crossings would be at-grade considering it's only the N5.


  • #113
    antoobrien
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    True, but I'd imagine most or all of the minor road crossings would be at-grade considering it's only the N5.

    True - I've no idea what kind of standard this road is planned to (SC/DC), but after driving on the A1 to belfast a few wekes ago I'd rather not see at grade junctions.


  • #114
    joujoujou
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    [...] what kind of standard this road is planned to (SC/DC), [...]

    [...] The scheme which comprises of 13.6km of standard single carriageway will provide a bypass to the north of Ballaghaderreen town. The project will include realignment/bridging of local road junctions and a major grade separated junction at the N5/R293 interface. [...]


    :)


  • #115
    serfboard
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    Good to see they're putting in a grade-separated junction with the R293. The junctions work well on the Claremorris and Knock bypasses (N17) which are also single-carriageway.


  • #116
    joujoujou
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    Here ya go, lads. ;)

    Fresh photos, shot this morning. :D

    Pictures are not perfect, as I noticed too late I have ISO set way too high, so photos are quite grainy. :o

    Also, for obvious reasons couldn't get onto a site, but it's still better than nothing. :p

    View to the East from R293. Presumably the new N5 will go under R293, as they're digging very deep. Couldn't shoot opposite side of R293, as the road is very narrow there (no shoulder at all) and I didn't want to take a risk and walk in quite heavy traffic. Sorry for that.

    242134.jpg

    Going West - local road parallel to R293, closed to through traffic.

    Big BOOM to be expected today! :D

    242135.jpg

    That's what you can see behind a sign...

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    ...and this...

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    ...and finally this:

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    More pics in a minute. :)


  • #117
    joujoujou
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    More, as promised. :cool:

    Comment not necessary:

    242139.jpg

    Going more West, next local road, forest already gone, preparations in progress, view to the East...

    242140.jpg

    ...and West:

    242141.jpg

    And deeper to the East again, you can see dust made by really hard working people and their powerful machines:

    242142.jpg

    And close-up of above:

    242143.jpg


  • #118
    Irish and Proud
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    Wow, they're not wasting much time!!! :D

    Great Pictures!


  • #119
    Geogregor
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    Wow, great shots, thanks.
    Do they have a lot of blasting to do? I wasn't expecting blasting at all in this part of Ireland.

    In general I'm surprised how often it seems to be used in Ireland. In Poland even where they have to do big cuts for roads they never really use it. Of course we have mostly soft postglacial soils but even where they remove rocks they don't blast.


  • #120
    antoobrien
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    Geogregor wrote: »
    Wow, great shots, thanks.
    Do they have a lot of blasting to do? I wasn't expecting blasting at all in this part of Ireland.

    It's to do with the rock type. We have a lot of Limestone in Ireland (especially in the west) that blasting is the only really effective way of moving the rock in the large quantities required.


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  • #121
    serfboard
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    antoobrien wrote: »
    It's to do with the rock type. We have a lot of Limestone in Ireland (especially in the west) that blasting is the only really effective way of moving the rock in the large quantities required.
    Have a look at this, on the Knock bypass.

    Serious amounts of rock removed here, and I'd say it would take forever were it to be done by conventional rock breaking.


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