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Wild Boar

  • 17-02-2012 8:18pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭


    For all the wild boar fans got a call last Tuesday morning from a lady living on Powerscourt estate in Co Wicklow saying there was two wild boar in the garden after the estate manager checked it out next morning they were shot.
    Wicklow ranger has taken them away for some dna testing to try and find where they came from and says they were very recently released as they were very tame


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    650gs wrote: »
    For all the wild boar fans got a call last Tuesday morning from a lady living on Powerscourt estate in Co Wicklow saying there was two wild boar in the garden after the estate manager checked it out next morning they were shot.
    Wicklow ranger has taken them away for some dna testing to try and find where they came from and says they were very recently released as they were very tame

    So they were just boar then..


  • Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭E. Fudd


    Here we go again............


  • Registered Users Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Longranger


    T-Rex hunting anyone? :D I've got a couple of permissions ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭TriggerPL


    Longranger wrote: »
    T-Rex hunting anyone? :D I've got a couple of permissions ;)

    oh i could go for some of this , should i bring the goat as decoy ! oh i forgot no live decoys allowed :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭daithi55


    TriggerPL wrote: »
    oh i could go for some of this , should i bring the goat as decoy ! oh i forgot no live decoys allowed :D

    ive got a stuffed goat


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  • Registered Users Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Longranger


    daithi55 wrote: »
    ive got a stuffed goat


    I've got a stuffed T-Rex but she won't fit in the starlet's boot!


  • Registered Users Posts: 788 ✭✭✭650gs


    Give Wesley in the NPWS Wicklow for any more info


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭arrowloopboy


    They were more than lightly Iron age pigs and NOT wild boar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    That ranger is a jammy git :D. Two carcasses for DNA testing:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭fodda


    They were more than lightly Iron age pigs and NOT wild boar.

    Iron age pigs are a cross between a tamworth and a wild boar sow so that means there must be a wild boar. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Two carcasses for DNA testing:D

    Me thinks that testing is being done with a fork and knife at a kitchen table. :D:rolleyes:;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    It's the only bloody testing I'd be bothering my arse with!


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭robbie mars


    Price of bacon is going to boar sorry i mean soar again lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭kildare.17hmr


    Longranger wrote: »
    T-Rex hunting anyone? :D I've got a couple of permissions ;)
    Can ya shoot them with 223?? I heard they can take down a cow......


  • Registered Users Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Longranger


    Can ya shoot them with 223?? I heard they can take down a cow......


    A well aimed slingshot should do the job!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭323


    Can ya shoot them with 223?? I heard they can take down a cow......

    Was waiting for the 223 to come up, ain't nothing that wee varmint round can't do.....

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    No messing now but with the right type of ammo and spot on shot placement a .223 can be quite amazing. I can see no reason why for example a shot with a slow expanding soft point in the flank of a boar ( from the rear aimed to the front at a small angle slightly behind the ribcage ) shouldn't be an immedeate kill shot. Let's face it, people have shot them stone dead in the past with black powder front loaders, standard 12g shotguns ( no fancy 3" magnums either ) with 00 and AAA cartridges, Brenneke slugs etc...all stuff that doesn't come near the velocity and penetration capabilities of .223.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    No messing now but with the right type of ammo and spot on shot placement a .223 can be quite amazing. I can see no reason why for example a shot with a slow expanding soft point in the flank of a boar ( from the rear aimed to the front at a small angle slightly behind the ribcage ) shouldn't be an immedeate kill shot. Let's face it, people have shot them stone dead in the past with black powder front loaders, standard 12g shotguns ( no fancy 3" magnums either ) with 00 and AAA cartridges, Brenneke slugs etc...all stuff that doesn't come near the velocity and penetration capabilities of .223.

    i agree with you but again if it can knock a boar if can knock a deer. so that argument would be for a .223 for deer too.
    but its all about the room for error because you rarely get the time and rest for the perfect shots you get at paper. (how often woud you get a chance at the shot you described)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭TriggerPL


    garv123 wrote: »
    i agree with you but again if it can knock a boar if can knock a deer. so that argument would be for a .223 for deer too.
    but its all about the room for error because you rarely get the time and rest for the perfect shots you get at paper. (how often woud you get a chance at the shot you described)

    i agree you can knock a deers with a .22 but that dont mean that you go out shooting deers with it . , .223 will knock everything you want t knock but it when you dont place the shot right or it moves just as you squeeze the trigger this is when the big power comes into it .


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    TriggerPL wrote: »
    i agree you can knock a deers with a .22 but that dont mean that you go out shooting deers with it . , .223 will knock everything you want t knock but it when you dont place the shot right or it moves just as you squeeze the trigger this is when the big power comes into it .

    Yup, thats exactly what im saying. a perfect placed .223 round can knock any game in the world without any bother but you rarely get the perfect anything out in the field. Its grand doing it on paper when you have all day and the paper wont move.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    You could use a .223 and probably do reasonably well, but I'll always rather be overgunned, if only because it allows you more opportunities. Yeah, with a dedicated bullet with very good penetration and controlled expansion you could make that shot you described, but when I can take the likes of a .308 or a .30-06 with quality 180gr bullets and poke them through both shoulders, the choice is a bit of a no-brainer really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,934 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Komarodo[sic] Bell,a famous big game hunter, Once shot a bull elephant with a .243!! But then he had been hunting elephants all his life,had made a study of their anatomy for decade and shot it thru its ear hole,at almost point blank range.. It can be done but I wouldnt recommend it for everyone.He usually used a much bigger caliber for the day to day work.
    Same with the .223 ,shot placement will do it every time.But do you and can you grauntee a perfect shot placement and opportunity every time?

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Actually, Bell did use some medium bores, and some big ones, but he was a major champion of small bores for shooting elephants. His favourite was a 7x57, with which he shot 1011 elephants. He only ever shot solids, which is still common practice for elephant, though some will use one top end expanding bullet and follow it up with solids. He also used a 6.5x54, a .318 Westley Richards, .303 British and the like, alongside bigger doubles, but that 7x57 with 173gr military FMJs was the rifle he killed the most with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    That man's anatomical knowledge must have been flawless to achieve kill shots with a 7x57 on African elephants. It would compare to shooting big red stags with a .22lr and consistently dropping them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    That man's anatomical knowledge must have been flawless to achieve kill shots with a 7x57 on African elephants. It would compare to shooting big red stags with a .22lr and consistently dropping them.

    Yeah, he dissected skulls and mapped the path to the brain from just about every angle conceivable. He also shot his 173gr bullets into samples to see whether penetration was sufficient. Fundamentally, he was a believer in the idea that if you put a hole in the heart, lungs or brain of something, it's going to die, and he used all of those, didn't head shoot exclusively, though it was a favourite of his. A quartering away shot into the back of the brain is still thought of as his party trick. It wasn't always perfect and he learned a lot of stuff from making mistakes and surviving the results, but he gets all the credit because he survived long enough to write the lessons for everyone. Harry Selby's daughter shot probably the last elephant to drop from a 7x57, using Bell's own rifle! (Of course, his was a .275 Rigby) Personally, I think it all works, big guns, small guns, medium guns, whatever, as long as you shoot it well, and take shots within the capabilities of the rifle, cartridge, bullet and shooter. Since I know I'll make enough mistakes, I'd rather keep the shots sensible and use a bit more gun every time, but that's a personal call, and of course, what suits me might not suit someone else who's a bit more recoil-shy or who handles a different type of gun better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    You never know when you will need an elephant gun. :D

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭steyrman2




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