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Oil Line Damaged

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  • 27-03-2012 8:48pm
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    danjo-xx
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    I knew this was an accident waiting to happen:D and it did over the weekend.

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    Someone stood on the oil line and curving it a bit. There is a weeping leak at both joints.

    I've supported the pipe temporarily with bits of 2x1 and tightened the nuts, but may still be weeping. Wont know till tomorrow.


    1. Is the joint in the centre of line made properly in the first place? I doubt it. Is it just push fit or heat shrunk.

    2. How can I make the joints good again, and how much straightening up/give.... can the pipe take. (not used to this small bore pipe at all)

    3. Any suggestions how I can protect the line. 2 concrete blocks each side and lid over it, for example.


    tnks in advance.:)


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    sullzz
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    It is a standard compression fitting , you should turn off the oil supply at the tank and fit a new fitting in place of this one as the rings could be damaged on the pipe now , also have a look at the leak at the filter too .


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    aujopimur
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    Get a longer bit of pipe as you're at it and avoid a repeat of the problem, change the fitting on the filter to an elbow if you want to make it tidier.
    You can resuse the the existing fittings just cut back the pipe a little and use new cones (10mm.) use a little bit of thread tape as a sealent.


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    danjo-xx
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    sullzz wrote: »
    It is a standard compression fitting , you should turn off the oil supply at the tank and fit a new fitting in place of this one as the rings could be damaged on the pipe now , also have a look at the leak at the filter too .

    So just get new rings and remake the joint.

    The leak at the filter is from the joint too, so new ring for this.

    aujopimur: Get a longer bit of pipe as you're at it and avoid a repeat of the problem, change the fitting on the filter to an elbow if you want to make it tidier.
    You can resuse the the existing fittings just cut back the pipe a little and use new cones (10mm.) use a little bit of thread tape as a sealent.

    Using an elbow and dropping the pipe is an excellent idea and longer bit of pipe.

    1. Will I have to bleed the burner after doing this.
    2. If pipe is flat on the ground, will walking on it do any harm in future.


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    JohnnieK
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    The fitting should be a flared fitting because it is soft copper for a start (OFTEC Regs)
    As suggested try extending the pipe onto the wall.

    Oh and there's a dead rabbit behind the tank :D


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    danjo-xx
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    JohnnieK wrote: »
    The fitting should be a flared fitting because it is soft copper for a start (OFTEC Regs)
    As suggested try extending the pipe onto the wall.

    Oh and there's a dead rabbit behind the tank :D


    Flared fitting:eek: no way hosey, be lucky to do a standard comp fitting at this stage:D


    Will I have to bleed the burner!!!


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    JohnnieK
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    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Flared fitting:eek: no way hosey, be lucky to do a standard comp fitting at this stage:D


    Will I have to bleed the burner!!!

    Yep. you will have to bleed it.


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    DGOBS
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    Use copper inserts with the compression fittings, always find amateur flaring can leak as bad as anything (takes a bit of practice to get em right)

    Thread tape on it's own with oil doesn't work very well so would require a non-set sealant too!


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    danjo-xx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    DGOBS wrote: »
    Use copper inserts with the compression fittings, always find amateur flaring can leak as bad as anything (takes a bit of practice to get em right)

    Thread tape on it's own with oil doesn't work very well so would require a non-set sealant too!


    Copper inserts sounds like a good idea, what brand of not set sealant would you recommend or should I look out for.


    Is the pipe joiner just a push fit joint like a wavin fitting:confused:


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    sullzz
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    Use red lead or something similar


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    DoneDL
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    DGOBS
    Use copper inserts with the compression fittings, always find amateur flaring can leak as bad as anything (takes a bit of practice to get em right)
    sullzz
    Use red lead or something similar

    Good advice and also either structure around the pipe or put a small wall before it. Oil should never be allowed go into the ground, it is a serious pollutant.


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    danjo-xx
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    thanks guys that's great advice.

    Just 2 questions:

    Is that pipe joiner just a push tight fit where the ends enter the white pipe.

    To what extent can I bend a new piece of oil line by hand without kinking it.


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    sullzz
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    danjo-xx wrote: »
    thanks guys that's great advice.

    Just 2 questions:

    Is that pipe joiner just a push tight fit where the ends enter the white pipe.

    To what extent can I bend a new piece of oil line by hand without kinking it.

    To bend copper by hand you would have a very long sweeped bend , even though it is soft copper it goes out of shape very easy .
    The brass fitting is a standard nut and ring fitting , the copper comes pre insulated in the white plastic coating , its called wicku ( probably spelt that wrong)


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    Billy Bunting
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    You should think about also lower the slab from below the filter to provide full access for when cleaning the filter


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    danjo-xx
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    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    You should think about also lower the slab from below the filter to provide full access for when cleaning the filter


    Didn't know they were cleanable or even replaceable.:D

    Thinking of running the new pipe line through a piece of 1.1/4" wavin for protection or maybe 1" wavin. Is there anything more flat and tough that I could use instead.


    My garden is prone to kids retrieving balls and ocassional intruder unfortunately.:(


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    DGOBS
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    Lol, this thread is starting to look like Oft101...lmao


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    danjo-xx
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    DGOBS wrote: »
    Lol, this thread is starting to look like Oft101...lmao



    Gawd your easily entertained...... maybe 'Trade Only' should be added to the title of this Forum.:p


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