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NFL DRAFT 2012

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    nerd69 wrote: »
    it does matter a lot of vicks picks are because he dosent see a cb over a lineman also it means you have to draft shorter linemen

    He's still a top 10 QB in the league on his day (although you could argue that it's his athleticism that sets him apart) whilst Brees is in the top 3. My point is that a lot of QB's that are 5'11 - 6'1 are disregarded based on their height and thus their success rate is much lower but if you looked at the amount of smaller QB's that were given a chance of which did relatively well in the league, I'd say it wouldn't be all that much in the difference with tall QB's - I mean there's hundreds at 6'3+ who have tried and failed.

    Put it this way, I'd have Wilson at 5'11 who looks to have a lot of talent and ability including his athleticism ahead of Osweiler who looks very, very raw in the draft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    It's not just the height with Kellen Moore. It's his arm strength and athleticism combined with his height which means unfortunately for him the most he can hope for is probably to be a career back-up.

    *Ahem*



    Moore's arm strength is one of the great myths of college football. It's fine. He's no Jay Cutler or Matt Stafford, but his arm strength is no worse than Tom Brady's was coming out of college.

    It's his gimmick offence, limited playcalling responsibilities, poor athleticism, questionable accuracy and height that are the problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Great stuff to see Kellen Moore picked up so quickly. Great kid, hope he suceeds and maybe gets a shot to be a starter one day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Dolphins did good job picking up Texas A&M WR Jeff Fuller. Will be used to working with Tannehill and is a good WR.

    Steelers wit a great pick-up for Marquis Maise from Alabama. He is a great punt returner and could be the next Antonio Brown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    *Ahem*



    Moore's arm strength is one of the great myths of college football. It's fine. He's no Jay Cutler or Matt Stafford, but his arm strength is no worse than Tom Brady's was coming out of college.

    It's his gimmick offence, limited playcalling responsibilities, poor athleticism, questionable accuracy and height that are the problem.
    Questionable accuracy? The guy is like a laser pointer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Any word on any UDFA Kansas have picked up if any?


  • Registered Users Posts: 250 ✭✭Heffo001


    *Ahem*



    Moore's arm strength is one of the great myths of college football. It's fine. He's no Jay Cutler or Matt Stafford, but his arm strength is no worse than Tom Brady's was coming out of college.

    It's his gimmick offence, limited playcalling responsibilities, poor athleticism, questionable accuracy and height that are the problem.

    Yes he can throw a long bomb over the top of the defence, but that's not the only aspect of arm strength. I'll admit I'm not an expert on it but numerous people at the senior bowl commented on how strained Moore seemed when throwing the ball deep and how he had to put everything into it and even then it didn't arrive with pace. This meant that corners and safety's had chances to make plays on these passes. I like Kellen and hope that he has a good career as a back-up and then maybe puts some of that football knowledge into coaching, but in my opinion he lacks arm strength.

    Also does he really have questionable accuracy? He completed almost 75% of passes last year and scored 43 TDs to 9 INTs. I didn't see too much off his games live so what makes you say he has questionable accuracy?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭Arawn


    Burfet to the bengals udfa


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I've no idea what Kellen Moore is like but that pass doesn't actually tell anything about his arm strength, well not terms of NFL requirements. Every QB in the NFL could make that throw, drop back then have ample time to take 3-4 steps up put the full torque and movement into the throw is pretty easy for a QB at that level. In terms of NFL level players will need to show they can put the required zip on the ball when standing with both feet planted having to mainly use their arm to generate the required speed and not mainly their body.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    davyjose wrote: »
    Questionable accuracy? The guy is like a laser pointer.

    He's like a laser within 10/15 yards and when throwing to his left, but his accuracy suffers an awful lot with anything beyond that. He's from a gimmick offence that inflates QBs stats - loads of short, 10 yard throws and letting the receivers add what they can onto it. Which is fine, but in the NFL defences and linebackers are a hell of a lot better at that immediate coverage beyond the LOS than they are in the Mountain West! There was a tape collection posted on another forum that was a collection of deep (15 yards +) passes Moore made in his career, and they were very, very poor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    Heffo001 wrote: »
    Yes he can throw a long bomb over the top of the defence, but that's not the only aspect of arm strength. I'll admit I'm not an expert on it but numerous people at the senior bowl commented on how strained Moore seemed when throwing the ball deep and how he had to put everything into it and even then it didn't arrive with pace. This meant that corners and safety's had chances to make plays on these passes. I like Kellen and hope that he has a good career as a back-up and then maybe puts some of that football knowledge into coaching, but in my opinion he lacks arm strength.

    I've always been happy with his arm strength any time I've seen him. He was never able to show it off a whole heap in Boise's system because it never really called for it, but he can put good zip on it albeit it will never be an elite level. There was a play against Georgia on the opening weekend last year where he absolutely rocketed a pass to I think it was Shoemaker. I remember the commentators laughing about it wondering where he'd been hiding that arm strength all this time. Whether he could make that pass several times a game every Sunday though is doubtful, and I guess once you bring accuracy into the equation, they just don't mix for him. But it's not a big a problem as people are making out, there are far bigger problems for him than arm strength.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Who's getting first pick in 2013 then? :pac:

    My money's on the Vikings and they'll go for Barkley :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    Paully D wrote: »
    Who's getting first pick in 2013 then? :pac:

    My money's on the Vikings and they'll go for Barkley :)

    Browns or Jags for me, would probably go with the former due to what is an awful schedule.

    Week 1: Sunday, Sept. 9, Philadelphia, 1:00 PM
    Week 2: Sunday, Sept. 16, at Cincinnati, 1:00 PM
    Week 3: Sunday, Sept. 23, Buffalo, 1:00 PM
    Week 4: Thursday, Sept. 27 at Baltimore, 8:20 PM
    Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 7, at NY Giants, 1:00 PM
    Week 6: Sunday, Oct. 14, Cincinnati, 1:00 PM
    Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 21, at Indianapolis, 1:00 PM
    Week 8: Sunday, Oct. 28, San Diego, 1:00 PM
    Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 4, Baltimore, 1:00 PM
    Week 10: BYE
    Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 18, at Dallas, 1:00 PM
    Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 25, Pittsburgh, 1:00 PM
    Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 2, at Oakland, 4:15 PM
    Week 14: Sunday, Dec. 9, Kansas City, 1:00 PM
    Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 16, Washington, 1:00 PM
    Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 23, at Denver, 4:05 PM
    Week 17: Sunday, Dec. 30, at Pittsburgh, 1:00 PM

    They'll be lucky to get 2/3 wins out of that schedule imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,013 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Paully D wrote: »
    Who's getting first pick in 2013 then? :pac:

    My money's on the Vikings and they'll go for Barkley :)

    Did you watch them this season? They're record didn't sum up their season at all, they lost an awful lot of very close games and mostly due to Donovan McNabb sucking and teething problems for Christian Ponder. Add that they lost about half their starters on Defense to injury which left a completely decimated secondary. They have also just had a (consensus) very good draft.

    Best case scenario is that Ponder shows all the good glimpses from last year consistently and they snatch a wildcard spot. Worst case scenario is he shows all the bad parts from last year consistently and they're in for a new QB next April. Either way they'll win 5 games minimum. The team is fine outside of QB. Favourable schedule also


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Biggest disappointment in this draft will be Maurice Claiborne. When your own coach trades down rather than draft you, things aren't looking good.

    Worth the risk for a potential shutdown corner, but if he has the adjustment issues that everyone is predicting then it will be a big blow to that defence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    The Ravens sign UDFA Kent State defensive tackle Ishmaa’ily Kitchen. He is a a 6-foot-1, 334-pound nose tackle.

    What an apt name. The Fridge, The Freezer, now The Kitchen :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Biggest disappointment in this draft will be Maurice Claiborne. When your own coach trades down rather than draft you, things aren't looking good.

    Worth the risk for a potential shutdown corner, but if he has the adjustment issues that everyone is predicting then it will be a big blow to that defence.

    As a Cowboys fan but also pointing out the reality of the situation , you are absolutely wrong , Mo Claiborne by most peoples reckoning on the consensus board , is the No 3 prospect. Only the two quarterbacks were ahead of him . The Browns were desperate for a runner to take pressure off theis future QB Weedon, the Vikes needed picks and also need a Left Tackle slightly more than a Corner and the Jags had to have Blackmon. That is why he slipped to 6 , which in itself was value for Dallas, that we had only to give a 2nd rd pick to the Rams is brilliant business to go up 8 spots

    As to Claiborne not being picked by his own coach the Bucs traded to 7 for Barron . Is anyone actually saying that Barron is the stronger prospect , maybe in Tampa but not anywhere else. This is a reach by Schiano. Walther said it very well unless a prospect is Ed Reed or Eric Berry you dont draft one in the top ten . Barron is a classic thumper who struggles in coverage, Ed Reed loves coverage , and plays like an auxiliary corner who is as likely to intercept as a corner. Barron isnt this so i think there is little between him and Harrison Smith who is a reach at 29 . Claiborne is a shutdown guy.... on his second contract he will have to get Brandon Carr money , Barron will be getting Safety , a difference of 5 mill a year at least ....btw the Rams great pick of Janoris Jenkins is going to put egg on Bengal and Patriot faces ...great corner


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  • Registered Users Posts: 742 ✭✭✭jester1980


    Would have liked Claibourne at the Bucs and was a little dissapointed we missed out. But we have to look at the bigger picture here, that trade enabled us to jump back into the first round to take Martin and also enabled us to move up from 3rd round to take L David, one of these two was tipped to go to us in the 2nd and becasue of trade in 1st round we were able to get both.

    Great piece of business in my opinion, obtaining 3 starters in need positions.

    Although i still am a fan of Claibourne but was very happy the way it panned out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Dan Di Lella has been offered a tryout for the Jets. Pity that he went undrafted when rumours had someone drafting him in the 7th or taking him as a UDFA.

    Still its a shot for the guy who had no football future only 3 months ago. Hope he makes it to a roster or practise squad this year. (Hopefully not the Jets as no-one ould wish that circus on a rookie)


    http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Di-Lella-lands-tryout-with-Jets-3521465.php


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    Matt Simms signed with the Titans. Hopefully he can make it as a back-up QB.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    Matt Simms signed with the Titans. Hopefully he can make it as a back-up QB.


    You sure? Think he is having tryout with the Jets this week


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,320 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Here is a full list of UDFAs to this point. Patriots have been very quiet. Seems like they are happy with their lot. Eagles have been quieter than most too.
    AFC East

    New England Patriots
    Jeremiah Warren, OL, South Florida
    Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
    Marcus Forston, DL, Miami
    Brad Herman, TE, Iowa
    Matt Roark, WR, Kentucky
    Buffalo Bills
    Delano Howell, SAF, Stanford
    Nick Sukay, SAF, Penn State
    Shawn Powell, P, FSU
    Ian Wild, SAF, Mercyhurst
    Chris Douglas, RB, Missouri St
    Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
    Chris Hill, CB, Virginia Tech
    Garrick Williams, OLB, Texas A&M
    Paul Madsen, OL, Colorado St
    David Snow, C, Texas
    Miami Dolphins
    Jacquies Smith, DE, Missouri
    Jonas Gray, RB, Notre Dame
    Derrick Shelby, DE, Utah
    Derek Moye, WR, Penn State
    Kelcie McCray, S, Arkansas State
    Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
    Derrick Dennis, OL, Temple
    Albert Evans, S, Purdue
    Shelly Lyons, OLB, Arizona State
    Jarrell Root, DE, Boise St
    Derrick Shelby, DE/OLB, Utah
    Josh Samuda, OL, UMass
    Terence Brown, OL, BYU
    Dustin Waldron, OT, Portland State
    Myron Johnson, S, Arkansas Tech
    Kevin Scott, CB, Syracuse
    Kelvin Bolden, WR, Southern Miss
    New York Jets
    Damon Harrison, DT, William Penn
    Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
    Brett Roy, DE, Nevada
    GJ Kinne, QB, Tulsa
    Brian Linthicum, TE, Michigan State
    Donovan Robinson, DE, Jackson St
    Brody McKnight, K, Montana
    John Cullen, OT, Utah
    D’Anton Lynn, CB, Penn State
    Donovan Robinson, LB, SC State
    Marcus Dowtin, LB, Northern Alabama
    Donnie Fletcher, CB, Boston College
    Pashaun Brown, RB, Maine
    Anthony Parker, OT Western Michigan
    Josue Ortiz, DL, Harvard (TRYOUT)

    AFC North

    Cincinnati Bengals
    Julian Miller, DE, West Virginia
    Justin Hinton, WR, Indiana St
    Vontaze Burfict, LB, Arizona State
    Tony Dye, S, UCLA
    Derrius Brooks, CB, Western Kentucky
    Brandon Joiner, DE, Arkansas St
    Kashif Moore, WR, UConn
    Tyler Hansen, QB, Colorado
    Rodney Stewart, RB, Colorado
    Bubba Forrest, S, New Mexico
    Emmanuel Lamur, S/LB, Kansas State
    Ben Bojicic, OL, Bowling Green
    Taveon Rogers, WR, New Mexico State
    Cleveland Browns
    Josh Cooper, WR, Oklahoma State
    Jermaine Saffold, WR, Missouri St
    Andrew Sweat, LB, Ohio State
    Matt Cleveland, OT, Idaho
    Antwuan Reed, CB, Pitt
    J.B. Shugarts, OT, Ohio State
    William Green, DE, Florida
    Tashaun Gipson, S, Wyoming
    Garth Gerhart, OL, Arizona State
    Bert Reed, WR, Florida State
    Emanuel Davis, CB, East Carolina
    Mike Allen, CB, James Madison
    Johnson Bademosi, FS, Stanford
    LJ Fort, LB, Northern Iowa
    Baltimore Ravens
    John Brantley, QB, Florida
    Charles Brown, CB, UNC
    Austin Johnson, LB, Tennessee
    Chyl Quarles, SAF, Wake Forest
    Nick Jean-Baptiste, DT, Baylor
    Deonte Thompson, WR, Florida
    Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse
    Devin Goda, WR, Slippery Rock
    Chris Anzevino, C, Kent State
    Chad Diehl, FB, Clemson
    Antoine McClain, OL, Clemson
    Bruce Figgins, FB, UGA
    Bobby Rainey, RB, Western Kentucky
    Jack Cornell, OG/OT, Illinois
    Ishmaa’ily Kitchen, DT, Kent St
    Elliot Henigan, DT, UAB
    Alfred McCullough, OL, Alabama
    Dorian Graham, WR, Syracuse
    James Carmon OL Mississippi State
    Justin Tucker, K, Texas
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    Brandon Lindsey, LB, Pitt
    Drew Butler, P, Georgia
    Robert Golden, DB, Arizona
    Marquis Maze, WR, Alabama
    Desmond Stapleton, OG, Rutgers
    Adrian Robinson, DE, Temple
    Alex Tanney, QB, Monmouth
    Grant Ressel, PK, Missouri
    Ryan Lee, OG, Furman
    Jake Stoller, DL, Yale
    Connor Dixon, WR, Duquesne

    AFC South

    Indianapolis Colts
    Micah Pellerin CB, Hampton
    Jabin Sambrano, WR, Montana
    Cameron Chism, CB, Maryland
    Buddy Jackson, CB, Pitt
    Chris Galippo, LB, USC
    Matt Merletti, S, North Carolina
    Griff Whalen, WR, Stanford
    Antonio Fenelus, CB, Wisconsin
    Jason Foster, OL, Rhode Island
    Brian Stahovich, P, San Diego State
    Hayworth Hicks, OL, Iowa State
    Steven Baker, OL, East Carolina
    Kevin Eagan, DE, Endicott
    James Aiono, DT, Utah
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Drew Nowak, DT, Western Michigan
    Kevin Elliot, WR, Florida A&M
    Lee Barbiasz, OT, Northern Colorado
    Dontell Johnson, DB, Murray State
    JK Schaffer, LB, Cincinnati
    Ryan Davis, DE, Bethune-Cookman
    Matt Veldman, TE, ND State
    Antonio Dennard, CB, Langston
    Mike Brewster, OC, Ohio State
    Jarrett Boykin, WR, VTech
    Long Ding, PK, Norwich
    Joe Banyard, RB, UTEP
    Donovan Richard, SS, South Carolina State
    Taylor Allen, TE, Endicott
    Raymond Carter, RB, Colorado State
    Nelson Rosario, WR, UCLA
    Chris Forcier, WR, Furman (TRYOUT)
    Dan Hoch, OL, Missouri (TRYOUT)
    Houston Texans
    Desmond Marrow, FS, Toledo
    Jerrell Jackson, SAF, Missouri
    Shawn Loiseau, LB, Merrimack
    DJ Bryant, DE, James Madison
    Case Keenum, QB, Houston
    Logan Brock, TE, TCU
    Mario Louis, WR, Grambling St
    Nate Menkin, OT, Mary Hardin-Baylor
    Davin Meggett, RB, Maryland
    Cody White, OT, Illinois St
    Jason Ford, RB, Illinois
    Loni Fangupo, DT, BYU
    Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
    Eddie Pleasant, S, Oregon
    Delano Johnson, DE/OLB, Bowie State
    David Hunter, DT, Houston
    Tracy Robertson, DT, Baylor
    Johnathan Grimes, RB, William and Mary
    Greg Williams, LB, Pitt
    Rennie Moore, DT Clemson
    Phillip Supernaw, Ouchita Baptist, TE
    Tennesee Titans
    DJ Woods, WR, Cincinnati
    Devin Aguilar, WR, Washington
    Christian Scott, SAF, Texas
    Alex Watkins, LB, Alabama
    Nick Stephens, QB, Tarleton St
    Chandler Burden, OL, Kentucky
    DaJohn Harris, DT, USC
    William Vlachos, OC, Alabama
    Beau Brinkley, LS, MIssouri
    LaQuinton Evans, WR, Southern
    Brandon Barden, TE, Vanderbilt
    Darryl Whiting, RB, Fordham
    Gary Wilburn, CB, UConn
    Chase Deadder, WR, Sacramento State
    George Bias, OG, Stephen F. Austin

    AFC West

    Denver Broncos
    Duke Ihenacho, S, San Jose State
    Steven Johnson, LB, Kansas
    Austin Wuebbels, OG, Missouri
    Gerell Robinson, WR, Arizona State
    Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
    Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas
    Wayne Tribue, OL, Temple
    Elliot Coffey, LB, Baylor
    Anthony Miller, TE, Cal
    Jamie Blatnick, DE, Oklahoma State
    Mike Remmers, OT, Oregon State
    Eric Page, WR, Toledo
    Demario Pippen, RB, Tuskegee
    San Diego Chargers
    Phillip Payne, WR, UNLV
    Michael Hayes, RB, Houston
    Jarrett Lee, QB, LSU
    Josh Linam, ILB, UCF
    De’Andre Pressley, ATH, App St.
    Eddie Brown, DT, Texas A&M
    Paul Cox, WR, Miss Valley St
    Christian Tupou, DT, USC
    Mike Harris, OG, UCLA
    Taylor Embree, WR, UCLA
    Kyle Martens, P, Rice
    Logan Harrell, DT, Fresno State
    Paul Cox, WR, Mississippi Valley St
    Mike Willie, WR, Arizona State
    Sean Cattouse, S, Cal
    Cordell Bell, OG, Mississippi State
    Hubert Anyiam, WR, Oklahoma State
    Nick Guess, LS, Tennessee
    Charles Burton, OG/OT, Montana
    Jason Barnes, WR, South Carolina
    Greg Gatson, CB, Arkansas
    Kansas City Chiefs
    Tysyn Hartman, S Kansas State
    Justin Cheadle, G Cal
    Nate Eachus, RB Colgate
    Josh Bellamy, WR Louisville
    Brandon Kinnie, WR Nebraska
    Jean Fanor SS Bethune-Cookman
    Taylor Gentry, FB NC State
    Terrance Parks, SS Florida State
    Tim Biere, TE, Kansas
    Neiko Thorpe, DB, Auburn
    Ethan Johnson, DE, Notre Dame
    Dexter Heymen, LB, Lousiville
    Cam Holland, OL, North Carolina
    David LeGree, QB, Hampton
    Dominique Ellis, CB, SC State
    James Winchester, LS, Oklahoma
    Oakland Raiders
    Marqutte King, P, Fort Valley State
    Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
    Dominique Hamilton, DT, Missouri
    Chaz Powell, CB, Penn State
    Thomas Mayo, WR, Cal (Pa)
    Lucas Nix, OG, Pitt
    Conroy Black, CB, Utah
    Dan Knapp, OL, Arizona State
    Derek Carrier, TE, Beloit
    Mario Kurn, LB, San Diego
    Kaelin Burnett, DE, Nevada
    Brandon Carswell, USC, WR
    Rod Streater, WR, Temple
    Ralph Guidry, DT, Kansas State
    Corey Gatewood, CB, Stanford
    Darius Nall, DE, UCF (TRYOUT)

    NFC East


    Dallas Cowboys
    Darrell Scott, RB, USF
    Troy Woolfolk, CB, Michigan
    Ronald Leary, OG, Memphis
    Jeff Adams, OT, Columbia
    Taylor Dever, OT, Notre Dame
    Adrian Hamilton, DE, Prairie View A&M
    Aston Whiteside, LB, Abilene Christian
    Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
    Eddie Whitley, FS, VTech
    George Bryan, TE, North Carolina State
    Andrew Szcrerba, TE, Penn State
    Isaac Madison, CB, Arkansas
    Lionel Smith, CB, Texas A&M
    Lance Dunbar, RB, North Texas
    Cole Beasley, WR, SMU
    Tyrone Novikoff, OT, Idaho
    Charley Hughlett, LS, UCF
    Philadelphia Eagles
    Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
    Phillip Thomas, CB, Syracuse
    Emil Igwenagu, TE, UMass
    Matt Camilli, LS, UTEP
    Damaris Johnson, WR, Tulsa
    Chris Polk, RB, Washington
    Chase Ford, TE, Miami
    New York Giants
    Janzen Jackson, S, McNeese State
    Matt Broha, DE, Louisiana Tech
    Damian Davis, WR, Mary Hardin-Baylor
    David Douglas, WR, Arizona
    Adwale Ojomo, DE, Miami
    Julian Talley, WR, U Mass
    Joe Martinek – FB, Rutgers
    Jojo Nicolas, S, Miami
    D’Angelo McCray, OL, Memphis
    Stephen Goodin, OG, Nebraska-Kearney
    Washington Redskins
    Eain Smith, S, WVU
    Michael Shaw, RB, Michigan
    Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
    Lance Lewis, WR, ECU
    Brian McNally, DE, New Hampshire
    Darius Hanks, WR, Alabama
    Lenny Creer, RB, La Tech
    Vaughn Meatoga, DT, Hawaii
    DJ Holt, LB, Cal
    Grant Garner, C, Oklahoma State
    Kerby Long, WR, James Madison
    Josh Oglesby, OL, Wisconsin
    Dwayne Frampton, WR, Arkansas State
    Marcus Hyde, DE, William & Mary (TRYOUT)

    NFC North

    Chicago Bears
    Ronnie Cameron, DT, Old Dominion
    James Brown, OL, Troy
    Trevor Coston, S, Maine
    Chris Summers, WR, Liberty
    Jake Anderson, OT, Akron
    Ronnie Thornton, LB, Southern Miss
    Adrien Cole, LB, LA Tech
    Tyler Holmes, LB, UMass
    Kyle Wojta, LS, Wisconsin
    Alvester Alexander, RB, Wyoming
    Adonis Thomas, RB, Toledo (TRYOUT)
    Detroit Lions
    Derek Dimke, K, Illinois
    Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State
    Patrick Edwards, WR, Houston
    J.C. Oram, OG, Weber St
    Rodney Austin, OG, Elon
    Carmen Messina, LB, New Mexico
    Ronnie Sneed, ILB, Kentucky
    Quinn Barham, OL, Penn St
    Jared Karstetter, WR, Washington St
    Michael Cosgrove, DT, Idaho
    Monte Lewis, DE, Jacksonville St
    Sam Proctor, SAF, Oklahoma
    Alex Gottlieb, TE, William & Mary
    Green Bay Packers
    Dale Moss, WR, South Dakota St
    Darius Reynolds, WR, Iowa State
    Sean Richardson, SAF, Vanderbilt
    Marcus Rivers, WR, Buffalo
    Nic Cooper, RB, Winston-Salem
    Eric Lair, TE, Minnesota
    Randy Colling, NT, Gannon
    Dezman Moses, DE, Tulane
    Dion Turner, DB, Southern Utah
    Marc Tyler, RB, USC
    Tommie Draheim, OL, SD State
    Duane Bennett, RB, Minn
    Cameron Ford, TE, Wake Forest
    Don Barclay, OL, West Virginia
    Drew Vanderlin, TE, Michigan Tech
    David Nadeau, K, Minn-Duluth (TRYOUT)

    NFC South

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
    Zach Collaros, QB, Cincinnati
    Dan Persa, QB, Northwestern (WORKOUT)
    Sean Baker, SAF, Ball State
    Morkeith Brown, DE, Temple
    Tyler Shoemaker, WR, Boise State
    Mike VanDerMeulen, OL, Toledo
    Brandon Herron, LB, Michigan
    Chaz Hine, OG, South Florida
    Tramaine Thomas, S, Arkansas
    Adonis Thomas, RB, Toledo (TRYOUT)
    Atlanta Falcons
    Patrick Schiller, LB, Northern Illinois
    Josh Harris, LS, Auburn
    Cory Pearcy, WR, Huntington
    Lamark Brown, WR, Minn-Mankato
    Tyler Horn, OC, Miami
    Chad Faulcon, SAF, Montclair St
    Casey Therriault, QB, Jackson St
    Jerrell Harris, ILB, Alabama
    Adam Nissley, TE, UCF
    Louis Nzegwu, DE, Wisconsin
    Dawson Zimmerman, P, Clemson
    Micanor Regis, DT, Miami
    Dominique Davis, QB, East Carolina
    Bryce Harris, OT, Fresno State
    Carolina Panthers
    Ryan van Bergen, DE, Michigan
    Rico Wallace, WR, Shenandoah
    Wes Kemp, WR, Missouri
    Jared Green, WR, Southern
    Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
    Brenton Bersin, WR, Wofford
    Will Blackwell, OC, LSU
    Rico Wallace, WR, Shenandoah
    Nate Chandler, DT, UCLA
    Lyndon Rowells, RB, Humboldt St
    Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee
    New Orleans Saints
    Laron Scott, CB, Georgia Southern
    Braylon Broughton, OLB, TCU
    Johnny Thomas, S, Ok State
    Travaris Cadet, WR, Appalachian State
    Adarius Simmons, OT, ASU
    Jerico Nelson, S, Arkansas
    Jose Gumbs, S, Monmouth
    Tyrunn Walker, DL, Tulsa
    Kadarron Anderson, ILB, Furman
    Brian Folkerts, OL, Washburn
    Jacob Byrne, TE, Wisconsin
    DeOn’Tae Pannell, OL, Penn State
    A.J. Davis, CB, Jacksonville St
    Stephen Johnson, LB, Temple
    Aaron Tevis, LB, Boise State
    Chris Givins, WR, Miami (OH)
    Kevin Hardy, WR, Citadel
    Justin Aldredge, FB, Northwestern State

    NFC West

    Arizona Cardinals
    Scott Wedige, OL, Northern Illinois
    Jared Crank, FB, Purdue
    Broderick Binns, DE, Iowa
    Tevita Finau, DL, Utah
    Tre Gray, WR, Richmond
    Marcus McGraw, LB, Houston
    Zach Nash, DL, Sacramento St
    Richetti Jones, DE, Oklahoma State
    Paul Vassallo, LB, Arizona
    Jacory Harris, QB, Miami (TRYOUT)
    Marc Wilson, WR, St. Anslem
    James Nixon, CB, Cal (Pa)
    Colin Parker, LB, Arizona State
    Blake Gideon, S, Texas
    Blake DeChristopher, OL, Virginia Tech
    Conrad Obi, DT, Colorado
    San Francisco 49ers
    Brian Tymes, WR, FAMU
    Nathan Palmer, WR, NIU
    Al Netter, OG, Northwestern
    Joe Holland, OLB, Purdue
    Garrett Celek, TE, Michigan State
    DaJuan Cofield, RB, San Jose State
    Jewel Hampton, RB, Southern Illinois
    Kevin Murphy, OT, Harvard
    Michael Thomas, S, Stanford
    Chris Owusu, WR, Stanford
    Matthew Masafilo, DE, Stanford
    Johnson Bademosi, SAF, Stanford
    Kourtnei Brown, DE, Clemson
    Patrick Butrym, DL, Wisconsin
    Georgio Tavecchio, K, Cal
    Tony Jerod-Eddie, DL, Texas A&M
    St. Louis Rams
    Matt Daniels, S, Duke
    Jeremy Caldwell, CB, EKU
    Cory Harkey, TE, UCLA
    Matt Conrath, DT, Virginia
    Alex Hoffman-Ellis, OLB, Washington State
    Derrick Choice, OLB, Stephen F. Austin
    DeAngelo Peterson, TE, LSU
    Sammy Brown, LB, Houston
    Austin Davis, QB, Southern Miss
    Johnny Hekker, P, Oregon State
    Joe Long, OL, Wayne State
    Noah Keller, LB, Ohio
    Jamaar Jarrett, DE, ASU
    Jeremy Caldwell, WR, Eastern Kentucky
    T-Bob Hebert, OC, LSU
    Todd Anderson, FB, Michigan State
    Travis Tripucka, LS, UMass
    Calvin Middleton, RB, Jackson State
    Seattle Seahawks
    Jermaine Kearse, WR, Washington
    Phil Bates, WR, Ohio
    London Durham, CB, McNeese State
    Rishaw Johnson, G, California (PA)
    Sean McGrath, TE/LS, Henderson State
    Jon Opperud, OL, Montana
    Deshawn Shead, DB, Portland State
    Monte Taylor, DE, Cincinnati
    Lavasier Tuinei, WR, Oregon
    Addison Lawrence OL Mississippi State
    James Stampley, FB, LSU
    Carson Wiggs, K, Purdue
    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents/2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    You sure? Think he is having tryout with the Jets this week

    Hmm seemingly your right. Bad report on another Giants forum so.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,940 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    Dan Persa is a good pickup for the Bucs. Was a good player at Northwestern.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,013 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    neilster wrote: »
    As a Cowboys fan but also pointing out the reality of the situation , you are absolutely wrong , Mo Claiborne by most peoples reckoning on the consensus board , is the No 3 prospect. Only the two quarterbacks were ahead of him .

    There was no way Claibourne was the no 3 prospect. He was at best no.5 on most boards, and a lot of people had Blackmon ahead of him. The Vikings, Bucs and Rams all couldve done with a corner yet all passed on him.

    The clear consensus board after the college season was finished was 1. Luck 2. Kalil 3. Griffin 4. Richardson 5. Blackmon 6. Claibourne.

    Griffin moved up a spot after people say how much teams were prepared to pay for him, and Blackmon's stock fell a bit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    There was no way Claibourne was the no 3 prospect. He was at best no.5 on most boards, and a lot of people had Blackmon ahead of him. The Vikings, Bucs and Rams all couldve done with a corner yet all passed on him.

    The clear consensus board after the college season was finished was 1. Luck 2. Kalil 3. Griffin 4. Richardson 5. Blackmon 6. Claibourne.

    Griffin moved up a spot after people say how much teams were prepared to pay for him, and Blackmon's stock fell a bit


    Im not sure just shy of the draft that was the consensus , i would think Claiborne was slightly ahead of Kalil if not a tie with the large investment being made in Ponder meant that the larger investment had to be made in the Offensive Line

    Certainly i heard very little argument saying Blackmon was the bigger talent.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    There was no way Claibourne was the no 3 prospect. He was at best no.5 on most boards, and a lot of people had Blackmon ahead of him. The Vikings, Bucs and Rams all couldve done with a corner yet all passed on him.

    The clear consensus board after the college season was finished was 1. Luck 2. Kalil 3. Griffin 4. Richardson 5. Blackmon 6. Claibourne.

    Griffin moved up a spot after people say how much teams were prepared to pay for him, and Blackmon's stock fell a bit

    I think time will only tell but Claiborne imo is the best Corner to come out since Joe Haden in 2009 . He is light years ahead of Peterson and he was a high pick so i think Pick 3 or equal 3 on the consensus board is about right .


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