The Dutch

ejmaztec · 21-02-2012 1:44pm

Ruthless and efficient business people who don't take sh1t from anyone, and don't like giving discounts.

fryup · 21-02-2012 1:53pm

milehip1 wrote: »

The apple dosent fall far form the tree in my experience,if by taking no ****, you mean walking over all and sundry I get you,
but in my book that ain't a nice personality trait in anyone.

De Klerk may have dismantled aparthied after massive international pressure,scantions etc
but it was a country of Dutch south africans who implemted in the first place.

very well said,

the apartheid regime was a source of deep embarrassment for many dutch in Holland, many wanted to distance themselves from it

Duckworth_Luas · 21-02-2012 2:20pm

fryup wrote: »

very well said,

the apartheid regime was a source of deep embarrassment for many dutch in Holland, many wanted to distance themselves from it

I don't get it! The "Dutch" Afrikaners are a mix of French, Dutch and German and make up about 60% of white South Africans. The remaining 40% are the English speaking Anglo-Africans who are descended from the British and Irish. Should we be embarrassed that some of our distant relatives supported Apartheid.

Wattle · 21-02-2012 2:31pm

There's a Holland outside of Amsterdam? :eek: I had no idea.

Duckworth_Luas · 21-02-2012 2:33pm

Wattle wrote: »

There's a Holland outside of Amsterdam? :eek: I had no idea.

Yes and there's a Netherlands outside of Holland too!

rozeboosje · 21-02-2012 2:33pm

While most Dutch people are pretty fine folk, there is a lot of self-delusion at work in that country. They love to think they're open minded and liberal, but in the mean time enough of them voted for Geert Wilders to allow that racist so-and-so to hold the country's government to ransom. They CAN be admirably tolerant on issues such as a person's sexual orientation or their use of substances that in other countries would be made illegal, but it is also the country in which neighbours think they can tell neighbours off for painting their house in the "wrong" colour for the street, and it's the country in which you can find yourself utterly stuck because automated ticket machines in the middle of nowhere don't accept your Irish credit card. I think the flatness of the countryside can sometimes cause a peculiar Dutch type of Cabin Fever ... ;-)

Brendog · 21-02-2012 2:35pm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

What do people here think of the Dutch?
I personally like them but prefer Germans, that's just my preference.
I'd like to find out about the Dutch though. We all know about Amsterdam and dykes but I'd like to get a little more than that.
What do people think of the people themselves. They are very tall, I know that much.
Are they big in to sports? I know they really enjoy ice skating.
What about religion though, are they big in to it, I imagine not.
Is there a somewhat seedy element and deviancy to them?
Would they be considered a friendly nation? I know there's a bit of a racism issue there, somewhat due to Moroccan immigrants.
I'd love to hear from real Dutch people or people who know some or even regularly visit the country.
I'd like to get as much information as possible without really focusing on Amsterdam.

They have no sense of humour at all. Something about their culture makes it impossible for them to understand the funny side of sarcasim. Everything has to be literal.

Girlfriends Dutch boss: "Haha you just bought a danish but you are not from Denmark! AHAHAHAHAHA"

Wattle · 21-02-2012 2:45pm

Mate of mine asked me who I wanted to win the last soccer World Cup final and I said 'I'd really like Holland to win and if not them then either the Netherlands or the Dutch'.

imme · 21-02-2012 3:24pm

Why not go over OP and report back to us with a detailed video presentation.:D

I've met a good few different types of Dutch around the world.

I was surprised by the number of bible reading fundamentalist protestants that I met. They didn't seek to convert or influence me but were happy and comfortable in their beliefs and at peace with the world.

I've also met Dutch people who are fond of the national liberal drug policy, their general social liberalism.

I've also met some who welcome the liberal policies in force but are happy for others to benefit from these policies and are anti drugs etc or don't seek to force their opinions on others.

pcardin · 21-02-2012 3:24pm

Dutch seems to be allright. Except this ladyboy. New Adolf.

rozeboosje · 21-02-2012 3:26pm

@pcardin [snicker] Quite.

Luxie · 21-02-2012 3:45pm

I work with a fair amount of Dutch people and while I don't have a problem with people being opinionated, I do have a problem with people forcing their opinions on me (or anyone else). So as colleagues I don't like them, they're incredibly awkward if they feel they're not getting their own way.

Socially, they're fine I suppose.

TeddyTedson · 21-02-2012 4:46pm

imme wrote: »

Why not go over OP and report back to us with a detailed video presentation.:D

I've met a good few different types of Dutch around the world.

I was surprised by the number of bible reading fundamentalist protestants that I met. They didn't seek to convert or influence me but were happy and comfortable in their beliefs and at peace with the world.

I've also met Dutch people who are fond of the national liberal drug policy, their general social liberalism.

I've also met some who welcome the liberal policies in force but are happy for others to benefit from these policies and are anti drugs etc or don't seek to force their opinions on others.

Perhaps boards.ie would like to sponsor me to do a little reporting piece on the Dutch.

Sonnenblumen · 21-02-2012 5:28pm

Makenzie Glamorous Supermarket wrote: »

Apartheid ended in 1990 and all apartheid law's were repealed in 1991 or 92' so don't hold people guilty for the sin's of their fathers.

It was a Dutch South African, F.W. De Klerk who released Mandela and started the dismantling the apartheid system.

Like I said, Dutch South Africans 'tough people who take no sh*t'.

That reminds me of something one would expect to hear/read from the lame and pathetic Apartheid apologists when they finally realised that their time was up. The Afrikaaners were very good at exploiting the indigenous people as well as the natural resources of SA and inflicted huge misery and suffering in the process. Nothing to be proud about.:mad:

Latchy · 21-02-2012 6:19pm

Wattle wrote: »

Mate of mine asked me who I wanted to win the last soccer World Cup final and I said 'I'd really like Holland to win and if not them then either the Netherlands or the Dutch'.

At least 8 of the dirty dutch players in the last world cup finals should have been sent off for kicking lumps out of the Spanish team but thankfully the best team won .

fryup · 21-02-2012 11:14pm

^^^^^^^^^

that team tarnished the dutch football legacy

Johro · 21-02-2012 11:38pm

Meh.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 21-02-2012 11:44pm

Football fans over there are crazy. 'Tsall I got.

CrazyRabbit · 22-02-2012 1:18am

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but it's "politie"

I think you missed the joke...

44leto · 22-02-2012 1:30am

For a liberal place outside the Dam they are very conservative, also the Dutch have very tight family bonds, its almost, in want of a better word, Waltons like. Which sociologists give as a reason for the relatively low drug problems and teen pregnancies, they traditionally eat together and talk.

They are also very tall, even the women I am 6,,2 but over there I am very average. Also bikes I never seen so many people cycling but on peril for your life do not walk in their cycle lane, they go for you and nearly run you over.

Teyla Emmagan · 22-02-2012 1:49am

I really like the Dutch. I have a friend who married a Dutch guy so have been over there several times (the Hague), but also to Amsterdam a couple of times too. In general, they seem to be interesting, laid back, well educated and, overall, pretty cool. Don't think I've ever met a boring Dutch person anyway.

They are weirdly tall though.

fryup · 22-02-2012 4:28am

and lets not forget the dutch gave us ladder hurling.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOe1iDas3RQ

arybvtcw0eolkf · 22-02-2012 10:44am

milehip1 wrote: »

The apple dosent fall far form the tree in my experience,if by taking no ****, you mean walking over all and sundry I get you,
but in my book that ain't a nice personality trait in anyone.

De Klerk may have dismantled aparthied after massive international pressure,scantions etc
but it was a country of Dutch south africans who implemted in the first place.

So what you're saying is that its ok to generalize, and put words in my mouth once its on your terms.. I see.

Funglegunk · 22-02-2012 12:32pm

I was walking through the red light district in Amsterdam a few years ago where lots of friendly prostitutes kept pinching my arse. My gf at the time was none too impressed.

Seomra Mushie · 22-02-2012 12:49pm

Funglegunk wrote: »

I was walking through the red light district in Amsterdam a few years ago where lots of friendly prostitutes kept pinching my arse.

Aaaahhh, wasn't that nice of them! :P:pac:

milehip1 · 22-02-2012 1:28pm

Makenzie Glamorous Supermarket wrote: »

So what you're saying is that its ok to generalize, and put words in my mouth once its on your terms.. I see.

wow put words in MY mouth and then accuse me of doing the same to you? good strategy.

Never said it was ok to generalize, was only forming a opinion from my experience of dealing with DSA's,
which is much the same as what you've done,for some reason yours is more "positive" than mine and most other peoples I"d dare say.

rozeboosje · 28-02-2012 1:06pm

rozeboosje wrote: »

While most Dutch people are pretty fine folk, there is a lot of self-delusion at work in that country. They love to think they're open minded and liberal, but in the mean time enough of them voted for Geert Wilders to allow that racist so-and-so to hold the country's government to ransom. They CAN be admirably tolerant on issues such as a person's sexual orientation or their use of substances that in other countries would be made illegal, but it is also the country in which neighbours think they can tell neighbours off for painting their house in the "wrong" colour for the street, and it's the country in which you can find yourself utterly stuck because automated ticket machines in the middle of nowhere don't accept your Irish credit card. I think the flatness of the countryside can sometimes cause a peculiar Dutch type of Cabin Fever ... ;-)

A perfect example of this nonsense can be found in today's NRC Handelsblad:
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/02/28/internationale-gokbedrijven-moeten-nederlanders-weren/

Not only have they regulated the gambling industry to the point where only 3 organisations can legally offer gambling products to Dutch consumers IN the Netherlands (Lotto, the state Lottery and Holland Casinos), they actually demand that international gambling companies refuse access to their services to Dutch people. The Dutch even have a word for this insanity: "betutteling". ROFL. Now there's a perfect example of why I fled the country back in 1992.

Seriously though, folks. Gambling's a mug's game. But still. If you WANT to be a fool, you should have the right to. [snicker]

Pacifist Pigeon · 28-02-2012 1:30pm

Ijn naaic paaey yign jn kw yx haan hurdy gurdy hurdy gurdy...

Edit: If it wasn't for the Dutch, we wouldn't have orange in our flag.

rozeboosje · 28-02-2012 1:49pm

Pacifist Pigeon wrote: »

Ijn naaic paaey yign jn kw yx haan hurdy gurdy hurdy gurdy...

You got that completely wrong. It SHOULD be:

Ijn naaic paaeij ijign jn kw ijx haan hurdij CHCCHCCHCHC{spit}urdij hurdij CHCCHCCHCHC{spit}urdij...

Badgermonkey · 28-02-2012 2:20pm

kryogen wrote: »

Don't like the Dutch.

Only reason they actually exist is to ape British culture

Your sig declares Roy Keane a 'Red Legend'.

Presumably that relates to Cobh Ramblers colours.

The Dutch

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