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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    hi all,

    would be keen for an update on how people are going with their MBA or MBA hunt?

    i have got my uni list down to two. as mentioned before i want my MBA to have a strong as possible marketing focus.

    came across this article on linkedin, may be of interest.

    another curved ball thrown into the mix from a friend is a Masters in Innovation and Entrepreneurship. this wouldn't have the same value on a CV I'd guess but the learning's might be more useful. depends on what you are after i suppose, management of a mature organisation or a role in a developing organisation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    just about to start end of term exams.

    Studying is going ok.

    Enjoying the course.

    In reference to the linkedin link about an MBA is more than what you can learn from books. Its what you also learn from course decisions and interacting with colleagues/lecturers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    that linkedin thing is a bit of a piss take.

    how you finding the workload?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    lg123 wrote: »
    that linkedin thing is a bit of a piss take.

    how you finding the workload?

    Workload with CA can be very hectic. Luckily I have managed so far


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Year one finished with an average of 67% The maths based modules were easy. The "soft" skills modules were grand but marks hard to get


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19 nicger


    hi Godtabh, how are you finding the lecturers? i am struggling to make a choice between DIT and National college of ireland...??


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 DenisOakley


    I did a distance learning MBA and found that it was best at helping me see the big picture. My company wouldn't pay for it so I ponied up the GBP10k+ cost and then after a year or so quit and started my own business.

    The combination of the fast learning that you achieve when you are responsible for making a new business survive (and all the pitfalls you fall into) and the framework that the MBA gives you is great.

    Generally the biggest impact that doing an MBA has had for me is that when I take the time to sit back and look at the business I am able to figure out the strategy better. In essence it is a way of accumulating experience without having to make so many mistakes first


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 DenisOakley


    That said on many occasions it provided very little advice in helping me figure out what to do in practical cases.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    One of the biggest benifits of an MBA is the group work. How do you achieve that through distance learning?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 DenisOakley


    At Warwick the DL was over 3 years. So each year we had to be onsite for a week of intense group work. There were also a bunch of projects throughout the course where we worked together online. This worked because we had already built the relationships at the September seminars


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    i done my MSc via distance and wouldn't do another course that way. i was always one of the kids who showed up to class every day at uni, that kind of structure worked for me, where as with the DL course i didn't have that. really struggled with interest and motivation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 DenisOakley


    LOL. It took me 9 yeas to do a 3 year DL course! Still I graduate in January :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭richiee


    Really interesting thread. I hope your studies are going well godtabh. I am looking into studying an online MBA here in Australia in the new year. (Im from Ireland, been here 2 years). I will complete my online Diploma of Management in November, its also online. I love the online format. I do shift work, so it really suits me to be able to study at different times. One of the biggest problems I am having is choosing an MBA provider. Ive narrowed it down to about 5, they all have their plus and minus points. 2 of them allow me to specialise in a particular field. Project management interests me so I might go for one of those 2. Also, another 2 provide the MBA online, but with intensive 1 week study periods on campus at various stages throughout the course. Ive heard before what has been mentioned here about the online MBA being not as useful due to lack of networking possibilities. For me however, it has to be completed online as I live too far away from any University and my work hours just wouldnt suit anyway. Choosing one where I could go on campus at various stages throughout the course might help in gaining networking opportunities, however Im not sure I completely buy into that idea about the networking. Surly In studying an MBA you learn all about different management systems and procedures?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Networking is two fold. 1) interacting with people who may have similar problems/issues but different solutions and 2) the possibility of business opportunities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    godtabh wrote: »
    Networking is two fold. 1) interacting with people who may have similar problems/issues but different solutions and 2) the possibility of business opportunities.

    I see your execuspeak is coming along nicely :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I see your execuspeak is coming along nicely :pac:

    I've been able to bull**** for a while. I'll just have the qualification to back it up shortly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Lurching


    Great thread folks.
    How's it going now Godtabh?

    I'm lining myself up for a full-time MBA in Sept '15. I'm looking around at the options between Ireland and England.

    Has anyone heard any justification for forking out €30-35k for the likes of Trinity or Smurfit versus DIT or the likes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 jimmy.choo


    whats your plans Lurching, pack your bags and do one at home?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    DIT is due to get accredited by the American MBA association this year I believe and as I result I would see the cost of their MBA rise by €5-8k. I would see it priced at around €25k in the coming years.

    Nearly finished my third semester. Started to dip my toe in to my consultancy project.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Lurching


    jimmy.choo wrote: »
    whats your plans Lurching, pack your bags and do one at home?

    Yep, that's the plan.
    godtabh wrote: »
    DIT is due to get accredited by the American MBA association this year I believe and as I result I would see the cost of their MBA rise by €5-8k. I would see it priced at around €25k in the coming years.

    Nearly finished my third semester. Started to dip my toe in to my consultancy project.

    Was there a GMAT requirement for DIT? I'd imagine if it gets accredited, and it doesn't already, then it soon will.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    No GMAT requirement but you did have to go through an interview process.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Sparkle2


    Hi godtabh,

    I'm planning to do DIT MBA this year. Im a civil design engineer with 10yrs experience. I think youre a civil engineer too. There's loads of qns in my mind about mba. So can you please shed some light on the following?
    what would be the career options for civil engineers with MBA?
    How do you find the finance & economics modules in the course?
    Is the course manageble with full time job & kids?
    How many hours of study per week that the course need realistically?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Sparkle2 wrote: »
    Hi godtabh,

    I'm planning to do DIT MBA this year. Im a civil design engineer with 10yrs experience. I think youre a civil engineer too. There's loads of qns in my mind about mba. So can you please shed some light on the following?
    what would be the career options for civil engineers with MBA?
    How do you find the finance & economics modules in the course?
    Is the course manageble with full time job & kids?
    How many hours of study per week that the course need realistically?

    Can you send me a PM with your email and I'll drop you a line later. I'm a but busy with the thesis deadline of next week. If I see it in email I'll have a better chance of remembering!

    Will post it here later (if I remember!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    Sparkle2 wrote: »
    Hi godtabh,

    I'm planning to do DIT MBA this year. Im a civil design engineer with 10yrs experience. I think youre a civil engineer too. There's loads of qns in my mind about mba. So can you please shed some light on the following?
    what would be the career options for civil engineers with MBA?
    How do you find the finance & economics modules in the course?
    Is the course manageble with full time job & kids?
    How many hours of study per week that the course need realistically?

    Im 3 subjects out of 12 down in mine. I'm mech eng. with the career options for a Civ eng, its really a 'how long is a piece of string?' question. if you stick in the engineering game, I'd guess it will open more opportunities to progress into leadership positions. but outside of engineering, from what I have seen so far, the degree opens up a lot of avenues you may have never thought of.
    with the finance and economics, coming from an engineering background - they will be your friend. I am finding the fluffy stuff more challenging than the numbers/logic stuff I am more used to.
    It's going to be tough with kids, I have only one woman to keep happy and thats enough for me. A few of the guys on the course have kids and they are managing ok.
    Re the hours per week, again that will vary a huge amount from person to person. last term i took on two units and I was flat out for that term - every evening and all weekends doing the pre-reading and assignments. wont do two again, too much for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Sparkle2


    Ig123, Thanks much for sharing your thoughts. I will be glad if it opens door for more exciting carreer opportunities.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    what would be the career options for civil engineers with MBA? Management or a change of career. For me at the moment I am thinking of a change of career or a change of company.

    How do you find the finance & economics modules in the course? Basic maths. You will walk it. The hardest subjects are the subjective ones. Marketing was the worst for me.

    Is the course manageble with full time job & kids? I worked full time. A toddler when started. A baby half way through. Lots of stuff going on but managed everything and kept active. Worked a couple of hours a night every night, through lunches etc etc. Kept the weekends free.
    How many hours of study per week that the course need realistically? At a minimum you would need 10 hours a week at the very least. It goes up and down. Your PM skills will improve!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Project work is a lot of work. I got stuck with a few social loafers. That was hard work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    godtabh wrote: »
    what would be the career options for civil engineers with MBA? Management or a change of career. For me at the moment I am thinking of a change of career or a change of company.

    hey godtabh, many of your cohort change jobs early on?

    I'm struggling to think of many who are in the same job from when they started, and I am only in the first year.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    i know one did for sure. not 100% sure about others

    Are you doing the DIT one?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭lg123


    na, Uni of Sydney.


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