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Cycling forum Raid Pyrénéen trip 2012

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  • #362
    feck sake lads
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭feck sake lads


    eh no thanks lenny i only climb hills when i have no other choice.
    the only problem (for want of a better word ) you guys will have is not so much climbing its the lenght of the climb, like where in ireland is there a climb 25km :confused:
    so having said that your training is all wrong you need to be doing 150miles spins with every big hill you can find. so basically cycle to cooley on sunday the hard route and cycle home..


  • #363
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Captain Havoc wrote: »
    I'm after putting on a load of weight since I did my ankle, I'm eating pizza watching the champions league when normally I'd be playing soccer, I'm up to 72kg and I've developed moobs. I've agreed with a friend that we should go jogging in local woods as my dodgy knees don't take well to the road. Also Astra, I won't be up today as my auntie is coming to visit.

    The last time that I weighed 72kg, I think I was maybe 12 or 13 years of age.
    Your skinny. Stop bitching.


  • #364
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    AstraMonti wrote: »
    Cheaply.. give me a budget!

    For now:
    stem: http://www.extralite.com/products/roadstem%20OC.htm
    bars: http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HBPXNANOCOMP/planet_x_nanolight_compact_drop_carbon_handlebar
    seatpost clamp: http://mtzoom.com/clamps/classic-clamps/
    quick releases: http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/WSPXTISTQR/planet_x_ti_stick_quick_release_with_carbon_levers
    and maybe a seatpost: http://www.ebay.com/itm/OMNI-Racer-Carbon-Seatpost-WORLDS-LIGHTEST-31-6x300-SB-/300681459084?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item460202f58c#ht_1762wt_905

    That would be an easy-not too expensive way to lose some weight. After that you can start with the brakes, chain, cassette.

    Cant use the seat post or clamp as the Kuota seatpost is sort of aero in design (http://www.kuota.it/bike.php?IDCategoria=1&IDBicicletta=32&IDColore=1#Sector4).

    The skewers look nice and I was thinking of getting new skewers anyway, as the Ksyrium skewers rattle - which is very annoying.
    The handlebar design that you put up doesnt work for me. I dont like the anatomical bars. I think the style that I like is called ergo???
    This is what I have on one of the bikes and really like:
    http://www.marreybikes.com/en/handlebars/970-deda-hydra-handlebars.html

    So something with that type of drop and a flat top for resting my hands on, when on long climbs would be ideal.

    Thanks for the ideas, no get back to work.


  • #365
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    feck sake lads wrote: »
    so having said that your training is all wrong you need to be doing 150miles spins with every big hill you can find. so basically cycle to cooley on sunday the hard route and cycle home..

    i fully agree. finding the time however is tough :(

    you sure you dont fancy coming out with us. I know you secretly love hills.


  • #366
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    feck sake lads wrote: »
    so having said that your training is all wrong you need to be doing 150miles spins with every big hill you can find. so basically cycle to cooley on sunday the hard route and cycle home..
    lennymc wrote: »
    i fully agree. finding the time however is tough :(

    you sure you dont fancy coming out with us. I know you secretly love hills.


    Mixed feelings about this tbh. Yep, in an ideal world we would cycle loads and loads over very very long climbs. However, if we could do that here, we wouldnt be planning our summer holidays around it in a different country.

    Life prevents us from doing the most appropriate training, so we must improvise to do the next best thing.

    If running helps you to lose weight and get fit, it will be of some help.

    I am hoping to find enough time that I can do 3-4 days of 50-70km on the bike back to back.
    A 200km cycle is doable as a once off. The key is to be able to get back on the bike the following day and repeat.
    That is why I will hopefully be building to back to back cycles.

    On the hills - there is nothing here that replicates the climbs in the Pyrenees.

    So there are two approaches
    (1) Do lots of hill repeats
    (2) Do very long cycles to simulate ten hours in the saddle and build into this points where you will be working your body in a similar fashion than on a climb. So you could do say a 10 hour day, with 3 to 4 period of an hour at threshold.

    For what its worth I will hopefully do some back to back sportifs in May (ie Saturday and Sunday). I think this will help.
    I have a few routes planned over the next few weeks that are 130-150km with lots of climbs. However they will still be unable to replicate the sheer length of climbs on the Raid. There is nothing that can be done about that, so there is no point in worrying about that.

    My goal for the raid is as follows
    (i) Enjoy it.
    (ii) Complete it
    (iii) Do it at a brisk enough pace so that I get plenty of recovery time in so that I can fulfil points (i) and (ii).


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  • #367
    colm_gti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭colm_gti


    It's nice to keep an eye on this discussion, wouldn't mind giving this trip a bash in 2013!


  • #368
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    alps in 2013, himalyas in 2014 :)

    my goals are pretty much the same as ROK ON's.
    Complete it, enjoy it.


  • #369
    Captain Havoc
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    I'd be an advocate of stamina over climbing ability, on multi-dayers the ability to be able to get back on the bike the morning after is key.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • #370
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    Captain Havoc wrote: »
    I'd be an advocate of stamina over climbing ability, on multi-dayers the ability to be able to get back on the bike the morning after is key.

    the thing thats gonna keep me going day after day is any one of the photos that velopeleton posted in the 'post pictures from your cycle' thread. youd want to be dead to not appreciate them!

    Is anyone bringing a camera? I have a wee camera, but it doesnt take as nice a picture as my nice camera, so i might bring that. Its bulky tho, and Im not sure where I would put it.


  • #371
    cdaly_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    lennymc wrote: »
    im finding this is much cheaper and im still loosing weight. Reckon ill be mid 80s for the trip (down from mid 112)

    Good an ya Lenny, that'll make a big difference...


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  • #372
    feck sake lads
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭feck sake lads


    lennymc wrote: »
    i fully agree. finding the time however is tough :(

    you sure you dont fancy coming out with us. I know you secretly love hills.
    only from the top coming down:D:D
    nah thanks lenny but i'm on the tourer most of the time getting used to it again for my upcoming tour.;)


  • #373
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Nice spin this morning. Sally / Wicklow and back up Sally Gap.
    1780m of climbing. Think that's right. New to RideWithWings.

    http://ridewithgps.com/trips/557883


  • #374
    colm_gti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭colm_gti


    Planet X wrote: »
    Nice spin this morning. Sally / Wicklow and back up Sally Gap.
    1780m of climbing. Think that's right. New to RideWithWings.

    http://ridewithgps.com/trips/557883

    You got a cracking day for it! Here's hoping tomorrow is as good!


  • #375
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    yeah smashing out their this morning, just 60km or so for me got the 1,000 metres fo climbing in thou, struggled up stocking lane thou.


  • #376
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    this day in 4 months it will all be over.....


  • #377
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    well if anyone fancys warm weather training today i recommend sally gap, just mind the smoke.


  • #378
    hawkwing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    manafana wrote: »
    well if anyone fancys warm weather training today i recommend sally gap, just mind the smoke.
    Was up there yesterday about 1300,couldn't believe the heat (for March!!). Will hardly be a nicer day this year for it--though i hope so :)


  • #379
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    when i decided to do this trip i weighed 112.5 kg, and figured if I got to 90 for the trip that would be great. Weighed myself today and the scales read 89.4kg! happy days! Im nearly under the maximum recommended rider weight for some wheels now!! yay.


  • #380
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    lennymc wrote: »
    when i decided to do this trip i weighed 112.5 kg, and figured if I got to 90 for the trip that would be great. Weighed myself today and the scales read 89.4kg! happy days! Im nearly under the maximum recommended rider weight for some wheels now!! yay.


    congrats lenny, still hoovering at 86kg myself but not worried as happy ride with extra weight for now, weight loss can come in may-june. Strong in saddle today climbed well knocked off 2mins 30 on 7km segement up the cruagh road.

    Wont even resemle some of the climbs thou.

    if anyone else bar lenny and ROK are on strava add me,

    http://app.strava.com/athletes/335646


  • #381
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    manafana wrote: »
    well knocked off 2mins 30 on 7km segement up the cruagh road.

    good man! you sound like your enjoying the new bike.


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  • #382
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    lennymc wrote: »
    good man! you sound like your enjoying the new bike.

    back to the old bike me thinks, althou my postion on new bike is much better that 120km + on the old bike isnt sounding tempting


  • #383
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    anyone heading out in the morning?


  • #384
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    manafana wrote: »
    anyone heading out in the morning?

    Ardattin 200. Bray. 8am. :D


  • #385
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Planet X wrote: »
    Ardattin 200. Bray. 8am. :D
    I was hoping to do this but couldn't enter for diplomatic reasons.
    But I think 200km lumpy cycle is arguably better prep for the Raid than 50-70km in the hills.
    Any of the climbs that I do is 2-5pm at gradients on avg lower than the principal climbs on the Raid.
    8hours on an Audax is still 8 hours however.

    Are you doing Ardattin PX?


  • #386
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Yup. I'll give it a spin.
    Was in Dublin today this afternoon and had a big vegetarian curry. Should be tight!


  • #387
    manafana
    Registered Users Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭manafana


    wouldnt be quiet right for a 200 just yet i think, but need push myself to do one, want get back for paris roubaix 2moro so dont know about 200, but il push on if its not raining and try match last weeks total.


  • #388
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    Going to try and crack 2000m. tomorrow.


  • #389
    ROK ON
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭ROK ON


    Planet X wrote: »
    Going to try and crack 2000m. tomorrow.

    Penance for the day that is in it.

    I have to say, my legs were still sore from 1900m last Sunday. Spent an hour on turbo yday and it was hard.

    Best of luck, I presume you will be in Wicklow - hope the weather has cleared up.


  • #390
    Planet X
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Planet X


    ROK ON wrote: »
    Planet X wrote: »
    Going to try and crack 2000m. tomorrow.

    Penance for the day that is in it.

    I have to say, my legs were still sore from 1900m last Sunday. Spent an hour on turbo yday and it was hard.

    Best of luck, I presume you will be in Wicklow - hope the weather has cleared up.

    Wicklow yeah. Might start on Slaughter and take it from there.
    Had knee pain after the Ardattin last week though. See how it goes.


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  • #391
    lennymc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭lennymc


    I need to get back to wicklow. Havent been in any real hills since I got sick a couple of weeks ago. I could head back up to the cooley mountains and do repeats of the clermont cairn mast......

    Wont make wikclow this weekend, need to fit new doors in the house, so will keep it local. Hoping to get out friday, saturday, sunday and monday to get used to the multi day element. Not sure what sort of distance or climbing tho. Will have to see. I have a TT to practice for, so might just be repeats of a relatively flat road close by.

    Ive started looking at the bike im bringing, with a view to making a list of servicable items ill be changing. Gonna change all cables and the chain. Everything else should be fresh enough, but ill get it serviced before hand anyway.


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