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Royal Canal Tow Path

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  • #122
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    beauf wrote: »
    Why you want to promote the idea the new development work has blocked all users other than antisocial activities I have no idea.
    The aim of being so negative to the new work is unclear. Perhaps its to exclude other users from the route that would inconvenience fast cycle commuting.
    Maybe the intent is to get the thread closed so the positive are not communicated, so the route doesn't become too popular.

    Once again: Where have I said that it blocks all users?

    And you claimed you wanted reason but again you're making claims about what I think which can't be supported by what I have said.


  • #123
    Gaspode
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,008 CMod ✭✭✭✭Gaspode


    @monument and beauf - this has gone way beyond a D15 discussion, and my eyes have glazed over at this point trying to figure what you are even arguing about. Both of you please refrain from continuing your argument about the pros/cons of barriers on this thread, you seem to be just going in circles here. If you've something else to add to the thread by all means do so, but time to knock the barrier argument on the head.


  • #124
    strangel00p
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭strangel00p


    beauf wrote: »
    Thanks for the info. You encourage me to try it anyway! I saw a few others using it to commute when I was on it. Did you usually meet many yourself? When I'm on the train I've started to notice more people on it.

    I wonder would they ever consider extending the cycle way into the IFSC it could then link up with the Canal Cycle way. There seems to be a lot of dead unused ground at city end. I found that some people who are reluctant to cycle, through dislike/fear of traffic etc are greatly encouraged when they find they can do most of their route off road.

    No problem! Before the upgrade there was practically nobody cycling on it, usually the same couple of faces. The gates are a necessity though, it would be a free for all if they were removed and the surface would be destroyed in no time. I've had absolutely no problems getting through them with panniers so it's a small inconvenience.


  • #125
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    strangel00p wrote: »
    No problem! Before the upgrade there was practically nobody cycling on it, usually the same couple of faces. The gates are a necessity though, it would be a free for all if they were removed and the surface would be destroyed in no time. I've had absolutely no problems getting through them with panniers so it's a small inconvenience.

    But could you please let us know what type and size are your panniers?

    I'm only asking because others have said that the they have had to lift bikes with panniers over and I'm trying to get the fullest picture possible.

    Note: I'm just looking for info, I'm not debating the matter one way or another.


  • #126
    AlanG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Does anyone know if they are planning on making changes to the tow path around Broombridge as par of the Luas works. Presumably once it becomes the new Luas terminal they will have to secure the station full time and sort out the problems.


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  • #127
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 13,994 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Some documents from the RPA here

    http://www.dublinluasbroombridge.ie/Downloads/PlanofProposedWorks/01-ALIGNMENT_PROPERTY/27_BXD_P_30_D-0.pdf

    http://www.dublinluasbroombridge.ie/Downloads/PlanofProposedWorks/02-STRUCTURES/22_BXD_DP_30_C-02.pdf

    Looks like the currently unused land between the canal and the industrial buildings on the cabra side will be turned into a station and yard. I'd imagine having a terminus there will mean a proper station with more staff/security who would sort out any anti-social problems.

    The problem then may just move further up the canal to the bridge on the ratoath road. Once the flyover is complete, what happens to the old bridge? Its probably protected so will be left alone, but you'd imagine that area with a lock and sheltered with a new flyover will become the new anti-social hotspot


  • #128
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    AlanG wrote: »
    Does anyone know if they are planning on making changes to the tow path around Broombridge as par of the Luas works. Presumably once it becomes the new Luas terminal they will have to secure the station full time and sort out the problems.

    The tow path at Broombridge is to be upgraded separate to the Luas works. It's being designed with an aim of bringing it to planning, possibly later this year.

    All of the towpath is to be upgraded in Dublin, Greater Dublin Area and beyond.


  • #129
    Seoda1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Seoda1


    Quick question, I know it's not in keeping to this thread but seems good place to ask.

    How long would it take to walk from Ashtown to Drumcondra along the canal and is there a path all the way?


  • #130
    muckwarrior
    Registered Users Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Seoda1 wrote: »
    Quick question, I know it's not in keeping to this thread but seems good place to ask.

    How long would it take to walk from Ashtown to Drumcondra along the canal and is there a path all the way?
    Yes, there's a tarmac path the whole way. On the bike it takes about 10-15 minutes. At a guess I'd say it's roughly 3 times that to walk it.


  • #131
    joolsveer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭joolsveer


    I live in Clonsilla close to the Royal Canal. I enjoy walking along the towpath. I am not in the first flush of youth - in fact I am retired. When I am walking I often see people on bikes speeding along the towpath. If the cyclists are coming towards me I have an opportunity to avoid them but those approaching from behind me I often fail to notice. This can be a bit scary if they don't advertise their presence.

    Is the towpath suitable for the use of cyclists and pedestrians?


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  • #132
    macdara.conroy
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭macdara.conroy


    joolsveer wrote: »
    Is the towpath suitable for the use of cyclists and pedestrians?

    Between Castleknock and Ashtown (on new path) the answer is definitely 'yes': it's intended as a shared greenway, and there is signage to that effect at both ends.

    As for the rest of the towpath, it's labelled as a cycleway via the NTA's own mobile app, but I don't think it's explicitly permitted or banned. In any case, cyclists should be using bells if they're passing pedestrians from behind at any speed if they know the walker is not aware of them. Bells are a legal requirement, after all, and I always use mine when I'm a distance behind someone I'm passing.

    Much of the path between Ashtown and Liffey Junction shouldn't be cycled at speed anyway - it's broken up in places, it's potholed, it can get narrow, and there's wildlife crossing - so there's no need for pedestrians to be startled by some show-off racer type.


  • #133
    joolsveer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭joolsveer


    The stretch that I use is between Coolmine and Clonsilla and it - in my opinion- is not suitable to be shared by pedestrians and cyclists.


  • #134
    macdara.conroy
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭macdara.conroy


    joolsveer wrote: »
    The stretch that I use is between Coolmine and Clonsilla and it - in my opinion- is not suitable to be shared by pedestrians and cyclists.

    It certainly shouldn't be used by anyone cycling at speed - it's quite narrow there in spots and there's a sheer drop into the canal cutting, as you know. I wouldn't even walk there without a good pair of high-grip shoes or boots, myself.


  • #135
    mattser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭mattser


    joolsveer wrote: »
    The stretch that I use is between Coolmine and Clonsilla and it - in my opinion- is not suitable to be shared by pedestrians and cyclists.

    That stretch is scary in parts. Very little room between the canal and the tracks to improve things.


  • #136
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    It's basically a goat trail. Though you always meet people on it. Walkers and a few cyclists. Always fishermen too.


  • #137
    muckwarrior
    Registered Users Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    Finally cycled down that way yesterday. Took a picture of the gate. Pedals can just about fit through.

    318766.jpg


  • #138
    daymobrew
    Registered Users Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    About 2 weeks ago I saw that the gate at the 12th Lock end is open a bit. This must make it much easier to cycle through.


  • #139
    macdara.conroy
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭macdara.conroy


    daymobrew wrote: »
    About 2 weeks ago I saw that the gate at the 12th Lock end is open a bit. This must make it much easier to cycle through.

    Yes, much easier to get through now (but I still got off and wheeled it through the gap on Monday morning). They put a railing over the dirt mount, too.

    The gate near Navan Road Parkway could do with opening in the same way, though. And maybe someone could sweep the tree debris off the path? Hundreds of little twigs, etc, could be hiding nasty surprises for bicycle tyres.


  • #140
    daymobrew
    Registered Users Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    macdara.conroy wrote: »
    And maybe someone could sweep the tree debris off the path? Hundreds of little twigs, etc, could be hiding nasty surprises for bicycle tyres.
    Report it via http://www.fixyourstreet.ie/ though it might be quicker to bring a brush with you.


  • #141
    fasterbetter
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭fasterbetter


    Went for a walk with the dog down the canal today (Saturday) around 3pm.

    Ruined by teenagers on motorbikes driving at high speed up and down. Very intimidating. surely to god it can't be that hard to catch these guys...on motorbikes with no reg or tax etc..I thought there was CCTV down there.. Are the Gardai in Cabra and Blanchardstown between them not able to confiscate these motorbikes before someone is hurt..Is there a Garda person in charge of these two stations that could get them to combine their scarce resources.

    Surely whoever is watching the CCTV could call the Gardai when the bikes appear. They could block both ends and take the bikes?..its hardly rocket science..

    I predict that next Saturday afternoon the same thing will happen..and the Saturday after that.?

    Any chance of local policing working?


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  • #142
    amdublin
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 20,649 CMod ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Maybe they don't know it's happening.

    Did you report it today?


  • #143
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    fasterbetter wrote: »
    Went for a walk with the dog down the canal today (Saturday) around 3pm....

    Which bit?


  • #144
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    fasterbetter wrote: »
    Went for a walk with the dog down the canal today (Saturday) around 3pm.

    Ruined by teenagers on motorbikes driving at high speed up and down. Very intimidating. surely to god it can't be that hard to catch these guys...on motorbikes with no reg or tax etc..I thought there was CCTV down there.. Are the Gardai in Cabra and Blanchardstown between them not able to confiscate these motorbikes before someone is hurt..Is there a Garda person in charge of these two stations that could get them to combine their scarce resources.

    Surely whoever is watching the CCTV could call the Gardai when the bikes appear. They could block both ends and take the bikes?..its hardly rocket science..

    I predict that next Saturday afternoon the same thing will happen..and the Saturday after that.?

    Any chance of local policing working?

    Did you report it? There's little any police force can do if crime is not reported.


  • #145
    brightkane
    Registered Users Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭brightkane


    I had this going on in our green and reported it and got a local councillor to do the same and it got it stopped


  • #146
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    TheBandicoot wrote: »
    Isn't there a huge subsidence of the path along part of the canal between Drumcondra and Croke Park that would prevent safe cycling? Found this photo online : https://twitter.com/johnfurlong2/status/367584345319411714...


    I see they are fixing this stretch at the moment. Lots of construction work going on.


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