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Armed Police in Ireland

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  • #152
    Willow Wailing Windbreak
    Posts: 0 ✭ Willow Wailing Windbreak


    IRLConor wrote: »

    To be honest though, the purchase price of the guns alone will probably keep the topic off the table for years to come.

    Sure the Government are lashing out money at the moment. Never a better time!


  • #153
    discus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    IRLConor wrote: »
    Shooting a pistol properly takes a ton of training (and I'm not even including the shoot/no shoot and tactical bits I have no knowledge about). Somehow I can't see budget being allocated to afford Gardai the ability to keep up to date.

    It's not that hard. You can keep the budget down by running a preliminary course - root out people who are unsuited to firearms, who struggle with the physical aspect of controlling a firearm, or who learn the basics too slow. That way, Gardai who can learn effectively and quickly will be the ones who time and money is spent on, not 'course repeaters' who ended up going through an endless cycle of training-testing-failing.
    Then when someone gets hurt who shouldn't be, it'll be the member who takes the shot that gets the blame even if he/she made the best decision possible in the circumstances.

    Well, that's true. We get the government (and from them, the proxy) the judiciary and senior management we deserve. Those of us who stood by and watched the mouthy minority leftwing types tear apart our justice system didn't speak up in time. I wouldn't blame a Garda for not wanting to take up firearms, given the backlash they'd receive for using it.


  • #154
    IRLConor
    Subscribers Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    discus wrote: »
    It's not that hard.

    I dunno. I shoot roughly 10,000 rounds a year, almost all through rifles but some pistol and shotgun too. I've been coaching for about 14 years too. I'm not competitive with a pistol, but I'm not a terrible shot either. I would be very sceptical of anyone claiming to be a safe pistol shooter (in a policing sense) unless they were training every month at the very least. I doubt AGS would be willing or able to spend money on monthly range time for much more than a very small fraction of the force.

    Can you train people to hit what they're shooting at? Sure, that's easy enough. Can you train them to not hit what they shouldn't shoot? That's a lot harder. There's a reason that the regs for civilian range construction specify a much larger cone of fire for pistol shooting than for rifle shooting and those regulations pre-suppose a relaxed, well-lit and controlled environment. Again, I'm only talking about the mechanics of shooting not the tactical bits that are outside of my area of knowledge although I can't imagine real world situations make people more accurate!


  • #155
    Rebelkid
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Rebelkid


    Recent pics of ERU

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  • #156
    Terrontress
    Registered Users Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I know it's difficult to tell under a balaclava, but from what I can see, the lad at the back of the Range Rover looks to be some age. Are there age limits for the ERU?


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  • #157
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Terrontress wrote: »
    I know it's difficult to tell under a balaclava, but from what I can see, the lad at the back of the Range Rover looks to be some age. Are there age limits for the ERU?

    I'd put him at 41.

    I'm 21 and pretty athletic but there are lads in their 40's who would run rings around me


  • #158
    Rebelkid
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Rebelkid


    D Trent wrote: »
    I'd put him at 41.

    I'm 21 and pretty athletic but there are lads in their 40's who would run rings around me

    I guarantee you he'd run miles upon miles :cool:


  • #159
    HTCJoeSoap
    Registered Users Posts: 196 ✭✭HTCJoeSoap


    EireGun wrote: »
    Images of the Garda Síochána Special Detective Unit (SDU) from the media...

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    The Garda Special Detective Unit is a section of the national Garda Crime & Security Branch (CSB), which also houses the National Surveillance Unit (NSU) and Emergency Response Unit (ERU)

    I have a question about these types of windcheater jackets that Detectives wear? Do they have a specific name or are just called plainclothes windcheaters or what do you call them or refer to them as? Just curious.


  • #160
    Willow Wailing Windbreak
    Posts: 0 ✭ Willow Wailing Windbreak


    HTCJoeSoap wrote: »
    I have a question about these types of windcheater jackets that Detectives wear? Do they have a specific name or are just called plainclothes windcheaters or what do you call them or refer to them as? Just curious.

    Raid jackets.


  • #161
    Rebelkid
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭Rebelkid


    ERU on recent raids in Dublin

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