Crystal meth

I chatted to lads who had done it and they said that as you smoke it you can have little bits that pop off out of the pipe.
Straight away, first time trying it, you're searching for them on the ground wanting more

Franco Tangy Beggar wrote: »

I chatted to lads who had done it and they said that as you smoke it you can have little bits that pop off out of the pipe.
Straight away, first time trying it, you're searching for them on the ground wanting more

Pfft, I doubt you'll find many people who don't look for bits of drugs that they've let fall on the ground.

Hummm, you would wonder if the Government would step in now. And start to show the effects of this awful drug to the younger generation and existing population that might be thinking along the line 'ah sure once won't hurt' . So it would deter people from it before it gets a chance to arrive and get a hold.

Just a thought , the powers above seem to let things get a hold first then act. There is an opportunity for them to step in now and actually be proactive for once.

The only media I have seen on it has been from shows like 'cops' , which would show the drug in full action then go into the details of how the drug operates and the off the scale addiction it can give to the user.

Phyiscal effects
Physical effects can include anorexia, hyperactivity, dilated pupils, flushing, restlessness, dry mouth, headache, tachycardia, bradycardia, tachypnea, hypertension, hypotension, hyperthermia, diaphoresis, diarrhea, constipation, blurred vision, dizziness, twitching, insomnia, numbness, palpitations, arrhythmias, tremors, dry and/or itchy skin, acne, pallor, and with chronic and/or high doses, convulsions, heart attack stroke and death can occur.

Psychological effects

Psychological effects can include euphoria, anxiety, increased libido, alertness, concentration, energy, self-esteem, self-confidence, sociability, irritability, aggression, psychosomatic disorders, psychomotor agitation, grandiosity, excessive feelings of power and invincibility, repetitive and obsessive behaviors, paranoia, and with chronic and/or high doses, amphetamine psychosis can occur.

Withdrawal effects

Withdrawal symptoms of methamphetamine primarily consist of mental fatigue, mental depression and an increased appetite. Symptoms may last for days with occasional use and weeks or months with chronic use, with severity dependent on the length of time and the amount of methamphetamine used. Withdrawal symptoms may also include anxiety, agitation, akathisia, excessive sleep, vivid or lucid dreams, deep REM sleep and suicidal ideation.

Other effects

Methamphetamine users and addicts may lose their teeth abnormally quickly, a condition informally known as meth mouth.

So yes, a truly awful drug.

Herion been a depressant, users of the drug wouldn't be as on edge more relaxed

On the other hand Crystal Meth is a stimulant which would put users on the edge and extremely aggressive/agitated.

I use the term depressant and stimulant there quite easy, the neurological property's of these drugs would be very powerful on the end of the table they are on. But basically, Crystal Meth would make Herion look like minor issue.

Again, has anyone got a link to something saying that codeine can be used for Meth production? Pretty sure they're in completely different families of drugs and it's ephedrine and pseudoephedrine which are used for making Meth.

amacachi wrote: »

Again, has anyone got a link to something saying that codeine can be used for Meth production? Pretty sure they're in completely different families of drugs and it's ephedrine and pseudoephedrine which are used for making Meth.

Correct Amacachi as I posted above Codine is not used in Meth production

here is the usual shopping list to manufacture Meth

Matches
Iodine
Brake Fluid
Ephedrine
Butane
Hydrochloric acid
Sodium hydroxide
Ether
Ammonia

lovely combo aint it

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No drug is as bad as the press will have you believe and first time addiction is basically a myth regardless of substance. There's always one big bad drug out there just waiting to destroy society, according to the press anyway. It's the "wont someone please think of the children" school of journalism, aimed at the joe duffy mentality and it sells papers, tv shows etc. Reality is addiction prone people will become addicted to something, be it drink, gambling, heroin, meth whatever, the majority will not regardless. For example, i love being drunk, but i only drink maybe 2 or 3 times a month, i could easily afford to drink every day but it would interfere with other things i also like doing, so i don't do it. Others with different personalities allow it to take over their lives and basically destroy them. It's not alcohols fault, it's theirs! Same with meth, same with everything.

True dat. I've avoided heroin and more or less avoided coke because how I handled other drugs made me realise I wouldn't just do heroin once and that coke would be more than a habit in a short amount of time.