More info about a court case 1885

Coolnabacky1873 · 19-02-2015 7:20pm #1

I'm looking for information about what I think is a law suit I found in a British newspaper and would be grateful if anyone would know where to find more information about it.

The information comes from the 19 March 1885 edition of the Commercial Gazette. The article has a long list of plaintiffs and defendants, with other information included. The one of interest to me is:
Defendant: Patrick Gaughan, Knocknalina (Mayo)
Plaintiff: John B. Manning, 9 Lower Bridge St, Dublin, mrcht [merchant]
Court: Q.B. [Also, what type of court is this?]
Date: 18 March 1885
There are also Griffith's style columns for land value and amount of land.

Most of the defendants are farmers (and if the same as Patrick, poor tenant ones) from various counties and most of the plaintiffs are upper class (solicitors, "gentlemen", bankers, etc.)

I wonder are they all being taken to court of non-payment of rent?

I'm not looking for general family history info about Patrick, just specific assistance with this. I got the newspaper info from newspaperarchive.com* but don't recall finding any relevant info in the FMP court or prison records, although can't be sure I did a thorough search.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

*Note: I somehow got this article without a sub, there is a lot of online hate for this company and their billing practices. Approach with caution.

shanew · 19-02-2015 8:07pm

I think Q.B. might refer to Queen's Bench Division, headed by the Lord Chief Justice. Is there any mention of the name of the Judge hearing the case ?

Mr. Manning is not one of those mentioned at 9 Lwr. Bridge St. in Thom's 1884 or 1885 - two other business are though, Vance & Beers Woollen and linen merch., and Thos. Bewley merch. Both also have separate residence listed in Blackrock, Co. Dublin. In 1891 a Vance estate agent, and a Tyler boot & shoe manuf, are listed at no. 9, and part of the building is shown as vacant...

shanew · 19-02-2015 8:12pm

John Butler Manning merchant is listed at 9 Lwr. Bridge in 1879, along with Vance & Beers Woollen and Linen merch.

wonder how long this case went on for ?

Coolnabacky1873 · 19-02-2015 8:43pm

Thanks Shane. No judges name, unfortunately.

Coolnabacky1873 · 19-02-2015 8:45pm

The work of the Queen's Bench Division, not including the specialist courts, consists mainly of claims for damages in respect of:
personal injury
negligence
breach of contract,
libel and slander (defamation)
non-payment of a debt, and
possession of land or property.

Looks like they got into it somehow! Hopefully all of the above:D

shanew · 19-02-2015 9:05pm

A John Butler Manning died in Mayo in 1914, so some sort of connection to that county - will calendar

and this looks like him in 1911, born Belmullet, occupation 'Retired Farm Business' and staying at a boarding house in .. Sackville St. Dublin

Maybe the Bridge St. was an accommodation address for legal matters, even though he was back in Mayo by the 1880s ?

Coolnabacky1873 · 19-02-2015 9:27pm

Ah, very interesting. Yes, Belmullet is the local town for Knocknalina townland. A local disagreement, so!

Coolnabacky1873 · 19-02-2015 9:36pm

Listed at same address in 1901, occupation - Commercial Traveller Drapers. Maybe it was a dispute over an unpaid bill for his wares.

shanew · 20-02-2015 10:07am

The London Gazette is free to view, but have not been able to locate this so far...

Coolnabacky1873 · 20-02-2015 3:18pm

Sorry, typo on my part, it's the Commercial Gazette, fixed above.

shanew · 20-02-2015 3:54pm

wonder if this might relate to a Landed Estate case - there's a few Patrick Gaughan's mentioned in Co. Mayo on FMP.ie in this collection including some on the mid 1880s. They details are usually presented as a list of tenants, along with rent and land area

More info about a court case 1885

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