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21st Century Railway - RTÉ 1

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    #92
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    dowlingm wrote: »
    Is that road-rail crossings or including accommodation crossings too?

    Frank McDonald's nonsense quote includes every gate in a hedge along the line but it makes a great soundbite for lazy RTE filmmakers.


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    #93
    Sligo Quay
    Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Sligo Quay


    OurLadyofKnock wrote: »
    Still and huge number for a short line and many cross busy N roads.
    Yes I agree, it was about 46 half miles from Claremorris to Collooney Junction on the Sligo line, so that would make on average a level crossing for every mile, but honest facts, not propaganda and soundbites, Frank McDonald would be the first one to criticised people for getting facts wrong, county councilors in planning etc. he's been banging on about that for years in the Irish Times.


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    #94
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    There was a far better, four part series entitled "Trains" produced by RTE (Norris Davidson) back in 1979. I bought a one-off VHS copy from RTE in 1997 for IR £121.00 - I still have it somewhere - meanwhile here's the RTE Guide cover from 1979 to keep you going. :D

    trains%2B2%2B003.JPG


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    #95
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    LivelineDipso wrote: »
    Is it just me or is everything coming out of RTE these days just horrific?
    Possibly, but compared to North American broadcasting...


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    #96
    Sligo Quay
    Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭Sligo Quay


    IR £121.00 was a lot of dough in 1979 JD, but I have to hand it to you, you do come up with some gems, it was few years after that, we would have met in person;) I didn't have 2brass farthings to rub together, never mind 100guineas, then I disappeared to sea for 20years, then turn up on boards like a bad penny:cool:


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    #97
    Judgement Day
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    When I find it I'll stick up a bit on YouTube and post a link here but it wasn't bad stuff.


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    #98
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    All abroad for this weeks propaganda.

    All stand for the gospel according to St Dick Fearn.


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    #99
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Pie in the sky seems to be the theme this evening.


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    #100
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,476 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    And that was a party political broadcast on behalf of the communist party of North Korea.


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    #101
    flynnlives
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    narrator- "good targeted economic investments"

    and the a VT of that flutehawk from west on track!

    tell me what is "good targeted economic investment" about the current limerick-galway line

    a complete waste of money


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    #102
    robclay26
    Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭robclay26


    Talked such sh!te on it! Simple solutions just are never considered to the rail problems.


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    #103
    bikeman1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    More of the same crap as before! At least we got to see all those lovely 3d design walkthroughs that they spent millions on.

    Seeing Dick Fearn on there spouting out more rubbish and trying to use the motorways as an excuse for falling demand, just made me frustrated.

    Well at least that's the 90 mins of free advertising for IE over.

    Meanwhile in the real world it's back to an overpriced average service that doesn't meet the demands of most people.


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    #104
    LivelineDipso
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso


    trains%2B2%2B003.JPG[/QUOTE]


    Brilliant! I love pre computerised graphic design. You can see how the artist used a real airbursh to blend the images.

    All you get on the RTE Guide now are RTE 'stars' looking as if we give a toss about them.


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    #105
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    The third and, thank God, final episode is now on the RTE Player here: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10090689/ Possibly less mind crushing than the first two but I still consider it half an hour of my life wasted. :D


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    #106
    Wicklowandy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Wicklowandy


    I am facinated by trains and find the built history fabulous, but it sure aint my specialist subject;)

    But after watching all of this on rte player, i cant believe that this isnt a paid for presentation on behalf of irish rail.

    This could have been great, but instead was some of the laziest bland tv ive seen.

    And that guy from west on track, let alone the irish rail 'management' reinforces the truth that senior management in the public sector wouldnt last a week in the real world.


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    #107
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users Posts: 8,300 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    RTE & Imagine Films should be ashamed of themselves putting this on Irish TV.

    I have to say that it was a pure load of sensationalist rubbish that was not very well thought out when it was done with IE.

    In Episode 2 of the series which I watched again last Friday; I thought the impression that you would get a train directly from Cork to either Galway or Waterford is still misleading.

    There are no direct railway lines to these destinations. I know that people living in Cork would have to connect to Galway via Limerick Junction to get to Limerick to go towards Ennis & than beyond to Galway.

    I don't know about a direct connection from Waterford to Cork now by train today. That is still a mystery. The clowns who made that series are still lacking in their brains of the idea you still have to connect to Waterford by train via Limerick Junction to switch trains if going from Cork.

    Why did they not apply that theory when they shown it on TV. Those connections today still have not changed with not even of a whimper of fantasy thrown in for good measure.


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    #108
    Seanieboy98
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    isn't all of Ireland's rail 20th century or older. still using 20th century tech for signalling, locomotives, dmu/emu etc
    what exactly is 21st century about any aspect of Irish rail other than the dates the happen to run trains?

    No is the short answer there. Anyway, there is a difference between the 1900s and the 1990s. You can't just say the 20th Century is out of date' and 21st Century is modern. Every European country uses something from the 20th Century.


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    #109
    GTE
    Registered Users Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭GTE


    I guess what annoys people is different from person to person.

    I need my sound engineers hat on for this, there is a reconstruction scene in episode 1 where people are applauding the sod cutting for a new railway project many a year ago, in the middle of a field now!

    The applauding sound they used is from people standing a large room. It is little details like that which would keep me up at night if I was working on something like this.

    It must be said, it is an indicator to some other production issues. Anyway, I know you guys care about content more than production values :p


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    #110
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    I may have said this before but this production was started in 2004. The original footage was reworked. New footage and interviews were shot. Original interviews were scrapped. It is nothing more than pro IE rubbish.


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    #111
    highdef
    Registered Users Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭highdef


    I think these videos might be part of what Judgement Day is speaking of. Most of the following seem to be from around 1979:


    Here's an interesting one from Bray:


    Preparation of the Dublin to Cork train:


    Cross border shopping in 1968:


    Interview with a train driver in 1989 on the Jo Maxi SHow:


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