government trolls on the web

I havent met anybody on here in the last 5 years that didnt have some complaint about the world. You ask the right questions. Everybody has a beef.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Mantonmoreland, Anyone remember that?

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HbrcL-5QuA

most of them aint paid, they just have a rather twisted view of the world and a passionate desire to MAKE YOU STFU or AGREE with them

also, this Database that the Brits are 'Talking about Building'
didnt the FOI show that they had one running in Wales for 20 odd years monitoring and recording every communicaton from Ireland to the UK

Shocking video.
Never mind what the truth is as long as the Zionist view is what people accept as fact, even though its bollocks.

Just to clarify, I have nothing against Jew's, but Zionism stinks and the above video demonstrates that point very well.

profitius wrote: »

They're so bold these days they even bring cameras into their propaganda training. :rolleyes:

Propaganda/spin/whatever you want to call it has been a tool of governments and those in power since the dawn of time. The Romans were masters of political spin, dirty tricks and controlling the info fed to the populace. Nothing new here.

Thats a good advancement from Roman times, at least the expectation is there, but that won't stop the silly people with trivial ambitions from having their way with the tax payers money anyway. You'll always have egotists ruining the party for everyone else.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

So you believe they're just trying to put their ideas forward because they actually believe those ideas themselves rather than doing it on behalf of some agency or group?

Isn't that what most normal joe soaps on message boards do?

Yes they certainly are, but I feel they try to establish themselves as absolute authorities on political issues when they're voicing opinions rather than facts or pure logic not influenced by ideological doctrine. And worst of all they turn discussions into either slagging matches or who has the last word contests, which isn't constructive and essentially one of the reasons why people don't stand up to them as often as they could, because lets be honest one could spend time doing something constructive like playing music or writing a novel or just working in a job, rather than spending 2-3 + hours on and off arguing with someone who just turns the discussion into a solipsistic repetitions of the original points merry go round.

It works both ways of course, and this statement can be read as such, but essentially these individuals in their own minds can never be wrong in their assertions pertaining to political analysis and they will attempt to convince others of that by wearing out those who differ in opinion with them. That doesn't mean they're more skilled debaters or that their arguments are even good, with the benefit of hindsight or conflicting evidence their arguments are often revealed to be fallacious and full of selective thinking. Moreoever they'll attack in groups, maybe that means there are loads of people who share particular viewpoints and it is the norm for the internet, which is why I think posters of alternative dispositions should be more unified in putting across their viewpoints.

Does that mean they're ordinary Joe Soaps? Maybe not, because I don't think an ordinary joe soap would have the determination and patience argue a point to the nth degree until the other side gives up out of sheer boredom to make sure it looks like its the right point. Just to preface this, I support the formation of an Israeli Palestinian state though I strongly dissaprove of how the Israelis are dealing with the Palestinian issue, but essentially the video posted on Zionist bloggers is quite revealing on the thought processes which underscore the types of posters I'm referring to, they think they're right, ergo they are right and they will continue to insist that they're right until no one is bothered to counter their viewpoint. As for whether they're working for a government agency, I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility but I have no evidence on which to base a conclusive judgement.

K-9 wrote: »

I think you are referring to soap boxers on a particular subject. They get boring after a while and tbh, I don't see it as a pro or anti Govt. thing, both get boring after a while as does watching paint dry.

I know, you could learn more from reading a good few books on a particular topic, than reading through endless reams of internet debates.