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Windmill water pump

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  • 25-08-2013 7:10pm
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    MOC1972
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭


    I have some land with no electricity and was wondering does anybody know
    anybody with a windmill water pump.
    If the price was right I would be interested as soon there will be water charges all over and there is a well on the property the water is clean and its for livestock use.
    MOC


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    you could look at a wind pump too , should be cheaper since no electricals , also smaller since it uses lots of short blades to get lots of torque

    no idea where you would get one


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    Markcheese
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    Was that not what was suggested , could you check online, and find a home made design ?? Seen a bike wheel with blades attached driving a pump...
    You'll need a water tank as well so you've water when the winds not blowing ...
    If you've got a few bob there are loads of makers of traditional galvanised metal wind pumps ... Think they come in flat pack kits ....put in a few southern cross pumps in w.Australia...prob get em cheaper from states

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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    freddyuk
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    How deep is the well?
    A solar pump can run at no cost (after investment). Power required depends the static head. It can run slowly and fill a cistern all day so ideal for this purpose.
    A turbine may need a tall tower unless there are no trees /hills/buildings etc. and maybe planning permission. It will also likely cost more and need regular servicing. If it gets stormy you may need to take it down.
    Is there sufficient wind in the area to fulfill the water requirement?
    In addition with solar you could easily add a battery and run your electric fencing off it also.
    Turbine can be set up to do the same but the sums need to be done on both options.


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    MOC1972
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭MOC1972


    freddyuk wrote: »
    How deep is the well?
    A solar pump can run at no cost (after investment). Power required depends the static head. It can run slowly and fill a cistern all day so ideal for this purpose.
    A turbine may need a tall tower unless there are no trees /hills/buildings etc. and maybe planning permission. It will also likely cost more and need regular servicing. If it gets stormy you may need to take it down.
    Is there sufficient wind in the area to fulfill the water requirement?
    In addition with solar you could easily add a battery and run your electric fencing off it also.
    Turbine can be set up to do the same but the sums need to be done on both options.

    Solar would be a good idea and maybe cheaper.
    The water is about 2 meters below ground max and I have never seen it run dry.
    The area is wide open and wind seems no problem.
    I think solar will win out because I wouldn't be around all the time to take down a wind mill in strong storms.
    What would these solar pumps be like in frosty weather probably need to have a batterie running the pump at night.


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    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    you need a pump running at night in frosty weather ??

    Do you know how much sunlight you can rely on in Ireland during a winter storm ?

    You'd need to replace betteries every few years , or you could use a tank to store pumped water.

    If getting a wind mill then simply get one that can take the storms


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    MOC1972
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭MOC1972


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    you need a pump running at night in frosty weather ??

    Do you know how much sunlight you can rely on in Ireland during a winter storm ?

    You'd need to replace betteries every few years , or you could use a tank to store pumped water.

    If getting a wind mill then simply get one that can take the storms

    Not sure are you trying to ask a question with your first line if you are At night when it freezes the water in the pipe will need to continue flowing otherwise it freezes the next day at sun up you'd have a pump trying to run if it didn't freeze as well leading to a burnout.
    Second line thus the batteries as back up car batteries are pretty cheap these days. I will have a tank with an overflow recycling all the unused water
    By the looks of getting a Esb connection big bucks solar set up properly would be half the price including pipes tanks and some back up batteries.


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    freddyuk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭freddyuk


    Any remote solar or wind system needs to be designed to cope with the inherent issues on site therefore each project is slightly different. Planning and design becomes very important. There are ways to prevent freezing if it is likely to be problem. Pumping all night is just adding to cost as the idea is the power is free. You store the water in a cistern to provide a sufficient supply for the bad days. At night it can drain back so no water is left in the system. Plenty of remote farms in America suffer far worse winter than Ireland and survive with sun or wind power water systems for livestock.
    In exceptional weather the whole system collapses so it is difficult to cater for the 100 year exceptions. A little research will reveal the best methods and options you have.
    Oh and car batteries are a waste of time. Spend time in research and save yourself €€€,s. Someone has done it before you so just work out what you need on your site and go from there.


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