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Driver Check - lets taxi users check their driver

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    I can give you a reason why it shouldn't be given, suppose a criminal was watching a bank official, in preparation for a tiger kidnapping and the official always used a reliable one man taxi firm, what better way than to kidnap him while in the taxi he always uses, far fetched, maybe not so far as people would like to think.
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/robber-posed-as-taxi-driver-to-take-post-worker-to-work-106674.html
    GARDAÍ are investigating a new form of tiger kidnapping in which a robber posed as a taxi driver when collecting a post mistress.

    The raider collected Deirdre Higgins outside her home in Beaumont, north Dublin, yesterday and brought her to her post office in the Omni Park Shopping Centre in Santry.

    Detectives believe that the raiders had carried out surveillance on the movements of Ms Higgins.

    It appears that the taxi company received a call the night before from a person canceling her taxi. The raiders then sent a bogus taxi to pick up her.

    “She always takes a taxi to work. She was picked up by what looked like a taxi, but it was bogus, and brought to work,” said a Garda source.

    Locals in Beaumont Crescent said that a second taxi arrived as she was driven off. This is understood to have been a taxi driver from the firm she used who may have got suspicious as to why she cancelled.

    When Ms Higgins arrived at the Omni Centre the driver instructed her to go to the post office and withdraw cash and brandished a gun at the woman.

    Security at the post office were alerted. Sources said the raider may have got “spooked” and left the scene empty handed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    I can give you a reason why it shouldn't be given, suppose a criminal was watching a bank official, in preparation for a tiger kidnapping and the official always used a reliable one man taxi firm, what better way than to kidnap him while in the taxi he always uses, far fetched, maybe not so far as people would like to think.
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/icrime/robber-posed-as-taxi-driver-to-take-post-worker-to-work-106674.html

    you're inventing crimes now, in your scenario the criminal would have to arrange to kidnap one person to kidnap another to rob a bank having gone to some office to get the details of the taxi man and thus possibly being on cctv of which ever office they visited.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    you're inventing crimes now, in your scenario the criminal would have to arrange to kidnap one person to kidnap another to rob a bank having gone to some office to get the details of the taxi man and thus possibly being on cctv of which ever office they visited.

    No you can do it over t'internet. Besides not all crooks are masterminds but if they have an idea they might well try it out. No reason to make it any easier


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/check-if-a-taxi-driver-is-properly-licensed/ used this, search for dublin taxi on google images and then used numbers off photo, just to test the vehicle registration option
    Licence Number: Tx2x1x
    Licence Type: Taxi
    Licence Status: Active
    Licence Expiry Date: 05/07/2015
    Vehicle Registration No.: 1xDx57x3
    Name of Licence Holder: INTERCITY CABS LTD

    it gives you an option to request more info
    You can receive more information on this record via a Section 18 Certificate (please click here to view the details that will be supplied in this certificate). In order to obtain this certificate, you will need to purchase it for €25 using a credit or laser card. On successful payment the certificate will be posted, to the address you provide below, within 5 working days. If you wish to proceed, please fill out the information below and continue to the next step.

    Please note, the fee of €25 for the Section 18 Certificate is non-refundable.
    First Name:*

    Surname:*

    Postal Address:*

    Contact Number:*

    Email Address:


    I hereby request to be furnished with a Section 18 Certificate. I declare that all the details I have given in this form are true and complete to the best of my knowledge. I accept that false or misleading information may invalidate this application. I accept incomplete or inaccurate information may delay or invalidate my request. I understand that this website is designed to be updated every 24 hours, barring circumstances that prevent or delay data entry. Therefore, the data may be subject to a 24-hour delay.
    The applicant for this certificate has undertaken not to circulate or share this information with any other party without the express consent of the Authority.
    Click in the following box, if you agree with the statements above

    The following information will be included in the certificate:

    Licence Holder Name
    Licence Holder Address
    Vehicle Registration Number
    Licence Number
    Licence Status
    Licence Category
    Licence Issue Date
    Licence Expiry Date

    section 18 of the Taxi Regulation Act 2013
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2013/en/act/pub/0037/print.html#sec18

    so they'll have some of your payment information, and they could get more, and an address


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    228. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if he is satisfied with the nature of the information contained on the online SPSV register maintained by the National Transport Authority in accordance with the Taxi Regulation Act; and if he is concerned that the home addresses of taxi drivers are available to requesters for a relatively nominal fee. [39610/14]

    229. To ask the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport if he will provide in tabular form on a monthly basis, the number of requests made to view the details of taxi drivers via the online SPSV register in 2013 and to date in 2014. [39615/14]

    https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2014-10-16a.632&s=tabular#g636.q

    so I got the answer to these questions that NTA gave to Tommy Broughan TD

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6AEiinGYynOTkVERGl2SHhGMUE/view?usp=sharing

    accessed 16 times in 2013
    accessed 7 times in 2014 so far

    this second answer just retsates the rules as in the above letter
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6AEiinGYynOdHlCcEtoVFVLSlU/view?usp=sharing

    the register was first instituted in the 2003 Taxi Regulation Act 2003 section 38
    and then in the Taxi regualtion Act 2013 section 18 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2013/en/act/pub/0037/print.html#sec18

    when was it put online all the way back in 2003 or does this https://publicregister.nationaltransport.ie/ErrorPage.aspx it suggest that maybe this was first put online in 2010?

    this page http://www.transportforireland.ie/taxi/check-if-a-taxi-driver-is-properly-licensed/ first went up in 2012, accoridng to its source

    https://www.kildarestreet.com/sendebates/?id=2013-01-23a.80&s=online+spsv+register#g82
    23 January 2013
    There will be an online register of drivers so the State knows what driver is in each car, and consumers will be able to verify this.

    it would be interesting to know how many times the online version of it is used.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    read through IrishTaxi.org to see them complaining about this back in 2010,

    threy remove the make and model of car at some point they say
    http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=7411.0

    start date of the licence, don't why they'd remove that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    more taxi driver paranoia now they are giving out about the decals saying it makes them a target for robberies http://www.thejournal.ie/taxi-thefts-2072628-May2015/?utm_source=facebook_short


    Dessie Eillis in the Dail https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2015-04-23a.415&s=speaker%3A324#g418
    It also provides information to anyone who might wish to clone the driver's licence as one can now quite easily find out a person's address from these decals. One may be a customer or just passing down a street. One driver showed me how it was possible to change the name of the driver attached to a certain car with use of the app and details from the decal and plate. Some people's details have been available even after they have passed away.

    t requires email and a password to get in, so if anybody had both of those, you would have to be pretty determined crook to get those, I don't know how having to have decals on the side of the taxi or not would make a difference?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,326 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Is Dessie Ellis (SF) now the mouthpiece for the taxi trade in Leinster House? Of yes, of course, didn't Ivor Callely (FF) go to jail for fiddling his mobile phone expenses!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    http://www.thejournal.ie/taxi-thefts-2072628-May2015/
    Shane Lennon told us he only got his taxi back a few days ago, after it was stolen from outside his house last month.
    Enough said … It was taken because it is a taxi and it is easily-identifiable as a taxi. The meter was ripped out, the decals were ripped off, they put in a new ignition. Bits and bobs, you know.
    Lennon, who has been working as a taxi driver for six years, said he doesn’t believe his car would have been stolen if it wasn’t clear it was a taxi.

    whats the benefit of stealing a taxi?


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,243 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    coylemj wrote: »
    Is Dessie Ellis (SF) now the mouthpiece for the taxi trade in Leinster House? Of yes, of course, didn't Ivor Callely (FF) go to jail for fiddling his mobile phone expenses!
    I've no idea what this is about, but I'm reasonably sure it is off topic.

    Moderator


    http://www.thejournal.ie/taxi-thefts-2072628-May2015/

    whats the benefit of stealing a taxi?
    Especially if you remove the taxi bits. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    so apparently there going to remove the home address from the register http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/taxi-drivers-addresses-cut-from-register-for-security-34291538.html still have no evidence this is happening


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