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Nancy to Annecy

  • 14-07-2014 12:34am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭


    We have decided to explore this area on this years trip,we have not been over that way before but from my bit of research it sounds delightful,
    the plan as it stands is to spend 2 days in Paris,then make our way over to Nancy spending the first week following the wine route using the aires then spending a week around Annecy before making our way back
    So any tips on what to see in them parts and recommendations of a nice site around Annecy would much appreciated


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    A beautiful part of France and visiting Annecy is well worth the trip.

    Have a look here for some ideas on the way down http://www.tourisme-alsace.com/fr/campings/aires-de-services-stationnement-camping-car/.

    I know it's strange to see a tourist board giving info specifically for motorhomes, so unlike our own Fáilte Ireland :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭bluethunder


    Annecy was a highlight of our trip 2 years ago. Only stayed for a night but the scenery was incredible. There is an Aires close to the centre of town but it's very busy and vans are packed tightly together. There's a great cycle/walking track from the town out by the lake which you can follow for quite a distance. If the weather is good you'll be hard pressed to find a better spot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    Annecy was a highlight of our trip 2 years ago. Only stayed for a night but the scenery was incredible. There is an Aires close to the centre of town but it's very busy and vans are packed tightly together. There's a great cycle/walking track from the town out by the lake which you can follow for quite a distance. If the weather is good you'll be hard pressed to find a better spot.

    Where did you stay in Annecy ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭bluethunder


    Where did you stay in Annecy ?

    After checking the google map there and I think I have found it. It's to the south east of the town centre, on a street called Chemin de Colmyr. As I said, it's small and quite busy, with only space for 10-12 vans.

    And now that I look at the map I can see a campsite further back up the hill. You'll see it on the map and it's called camping municipal 'le Belvedere'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭piuswal


    After checking the google map there and I think I have found it. It's to the south east of the town centre, on a street called Chemin de Colmyr. As I said, it's small and quite busy, with only space for 10-12 vans.

    And now that I look at the map I can see a campsite further back up the hill. You'll see it on the map and it's called camping municipal 'le Belvedere'.

    Just a cautionary note, particularly if you have children but it also applies to adults. We were there, stayed near Lac Annecy as far as I can recall, it's about 25 years ago but we stopped close to the town for a break, beside some water and of course the children wanted a dip . The temperature was in the high 20s but of course the water was down from the mountains and very cold; so beware of a sudden plunge into river or lake.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    We do camp sites for kiddies and comfort, so it might not be what you are looking for, but we stayed at Camping International http://www.camping-lac-annecy.com/en/water-park.html maybe 4 years ago, and it was brilliant. As you relaxed in the pool you could gaze at the amazing mountains with dozens and dozens of gliders raining down right ahead of you.
    There is a short walk to the lake, with a lovely sailing school, and a pontoon where you can catch the boat to Annecy itself, since the camp site is not in the town but a good few miles along the shore (in Saint Jorioz).

    The boat is like a little bus really, except once you get on you have to do all the stops, which is a bonus really since it is so scenic. On the way back you get to go to the far end of the lake (opposite Annecy) and admire castles on the way, amongst which the one that was the inspiration for the Walt Disney Sleeping Beauty castle !
    http://www.chateau-de-menthon.com/en/the-castle-through-the-centuries.php

    We tried the local carps (I think it was, or another less popular fish from the lake/canals) in Annecy, but weren't too impressed, that's one thing I'd give a miss the next time. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Forgot to mention a lovely municipal camp site (cheap) in Soissons on the way to Reims, the town has a lot of old charm with beautiful old buildings, and the camp site is set along the river, right across a wooded park.

    Have a great trip, beautiful itinerary, we have it on the back boiler ourselves, we skimmed across from Calais to Reims once, and headed the Annecy way a different year, but from the Lyon direction where my Mum used to live and where I am from.

    Can I just mention Aix-Les-Bains, that's only about half an hour from Annecy, and beautiful town too, a lot of old charm again, an old spa area for rich people in the 19th century, a beautiful old Casino too. The Spa is still going strong. The lake is gorgeous, the promenade and boat trip worth your while, with great commentary.
    Up on the hills to the West of the Aix les Bains lake, near Belley, there is an old school house you can visit, that is a memorial to the 44 Jewish children who lost their lives after being arrested by the Gestapo there in 1944. The old house was used as a "summer camp", but as the war progressed, this became a cover to offer a hidden shelter to Jewish children. They were found out, unfortunately, before the end of the war. http://www.memorializieu.eu/spip.php?self0&lang=en
    If you have kids there is a Walibi park in Les Avenieres, again not too far, on the way back towards the Lyon area sort of. Also if you decide to loop down this way to go back up East of Lyon, there is Pérouges (medieval town) and a large bird sanctuary with bird park in a marshy area called Les Dombes (where you can eat frogs legs aplenty). The way back up leads you through Bresse (Bourg-en-Bresse), famous for its free range chicken, Macon, Tournus, Chalons-sur-Saone, all big wine areas since you are headed back towards Bourgogne, with Beaune and Dijon, and all gorgeous areas too, away from the madding tourist crowds.

    Sorry, getting carried away here, not really your initial itinerary :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    Thanks for the replies, No kids and the theme of the trip will be cycling up the odd mountain, I have been considering both campsites that have been mentioned at the moment I'm leaning towards Camping International
    Aix les Bains was on the list already it might be a nice day out on the bikes
    Not going to over plan with lots of aries in the area we should be ok, then a nice site to relax for a few days, The only thing i do hope we get the weather if not their might be a plan B


  • Registered Users Posts: 839 ✭✭✭kelbal


    Yes, the Aire in Annecy is mental, we went there twice on separate days, it was jammers each time with other campers waiting to get in.
    There's a decent enough Aire in Faverges, a couple of kilometers to the south.
    Will have a think about what other spots would be good between Nancy and Annecy that we've been to and get back to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭SeamusG97


    Consider Serrières-en-Chautagne and Culoz. Both good for cycling and inexpensive. Serrieres is free next to a small pleasure lake and you can barbeque (discreetly) if you want.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    I normally do a bit of a write up on our trips purely to us remember where we were ! So I thought it might be of interest to some and maybe provide inspiration to others to share how our little trip went,we went in sep 2014 for 18 days 2 adults,

    We set off for Rosslare in plenty of time and after a smooth trip down the N11 we were checked in and joined the Q waiting to board the oscar wild,I'm always surprised to see the number of vans that depart for France taking all our hard earned euros with us to spend surely some of the whizzes in discover Ireland must be aware of this but thats a hole other story.
    We are among those who believe that the boat trip is very much part of our holiday so as soon as we are boarded its time to relax,we find our cabin drop off our overnight bags have a look around to see if they have changed anything since we were last on board,then we head for the forward bar for a pint and a glass of wine to relax and watch the Wexford coast disappear over the horizon, no going back now. Our routine then involves taking a nap then heading out of a meal in one of the restaurants taking in the show we are well and truly in the holiday mood now,

    So with nothing booked a loose idea of the area we were going to visit we landed in Rosscoff,The first job i have when we get off the ferry is to find some fuel its the only time i brake my rule of not letting the fuel gauge go below the 1/4 mark so am always anxious to fill up, not far from the port you will find a eleclerc www.google.ie/maps/@48.679168,-3.997908,3a,75y,7.63h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sTDSbRtHg9r1xbGwJ5QpNsQ!2e0
    it has its own aire where you can fill up or dump a very handy spot

    We had decided not go to paris on this trip,So we were now ready for the road our first port of call was to be the shortish trip to the air at Mont Saint-Michel,we made good time pulled in and payed the €12 for the night ,you can get the bus to (we cycled the 3km ) the abbey to have a look around,when we were there we were told about the nigh-time tour of the abbey we decided to made our way back to the van and return for the night tour,we had a very nice meal in the restaurant close to the aires and make our way back,it was well worth the 2nd trip with the place lit with candles and musicians playing in the halls it really was an enchanting place,
    Day 2 was a traveling day we were heading for a spot in Soissons,a bit of track this with the trip across the flat and featureless land making for a long day,but we found the site with no problem,we had a quick look around the town and called it a day with dinner in the van and a few beers, next day the weather was a bit dull and we were feeling the effects of the long track of the previous day so decided to stay another day.As the day brighten up i hit the road on the bike for a 50km cycle not much to see the land in this area is flat and very agricultural ,as it was a Sunday the town was very quite but we did manage to find a nice spot for dinner to finish off a nice relaxing day
    Next day we were up and ready for road so we paid the €28 for our 2 nights stay and we were away again, we were heading for Verdun to have a look at some of the ww1 sites,we took a tour of one of the forts where some of the trenches have been preserved a very sobering place,the numbers involved are mind blowing
    The weather had let us down a bit as the day wore on by evening it was poring down, the plan was to find a aire but with the weather as it was we decided to make for a campsite,we landed in camping les breuils in Verdun town a nice spot with its own lake it was busy the night we were their we were directed to a sloping grass pitch well back in the site i knew with the wet conditions if i got our 4.5ton monster on to the pitch a would never get it off,so i done a quick tour of the site and found a nice flat pitch right by the lake I made my way on to it and sent mrs K over to enquire as to whether we could stay on the flat pitch so she came back with her happy head on explaining that we not offered this pitch as the big tree would block us from getting on to the pitch which it didn't ,so out with the awning having dinner by the lake in the rain perfect,

    I was feeling a bit smug watching all the mud covered vans leaving the following morning,we were on the road again our destination this time was Colmar on the German boarder,not long into todays trip it was confirmed what we suspected form about day 2, the satnav had no notion of where it was going but once you knew that it was ok, we just took out the map and made good time to Colmar and got a spot on the private airs by the canal in the centre of the town http://www.tourisme-alsace.com/en/23...de-Colmar.html we make our way into the town and stayed their for the evening finishing with a pint in the irish bar

    The next day with a big improvement in the weather the plan was to explore the Alsace region so we took the short trip to Eguisheim where we took the noddy train http://www.petit-train.com/en/eguisheim.html around the village and the surrounding vineyards it was then back to the van and on to Munster visiting the villages along D10 a very nice day indeed
    We went on to the air in Muster which is one of the barrier jobs close to the train station .This whole area was very interesting with the old town centres persevered giving the feel of a medieval villages,i finished of the the day with a very energetic 80km bike ride taking in 2 quite big cols returning for dinner in the van washed down with a bottle of local wine,while we were having dinner one of our neighbours introduced himself and invited me to take a ride with him the next morning,he looked very fit and skinny,in spite of this i excepted i could hold my own!
    After a good nights sleep i took to the road with my new cycling buddy who was from Belgium we had a lovely spin that was basically the same ride i had done the day before only the other way around,he turned out to be a very interesting guy retired at 60 and travels around with his wife in there motorhome taking part in cycling events,

    After my ride it was back to van and hit the road again as today was another traveling day the destination today was Anncey in the alps we had allowed 2 days for this trip so the plan was to drive till about 5pm then find a aires for the night this was how the day panned out ,im not sure where we stopped that night but thats why its so easy to motorhome in France i was never in any doubt i would find a spot to overnight,the aires was in a large car-park at the edge of a very nice village by a river we shared it with about 10 other vans,it seemed to be a popular spot with motorcyclist and i spent a very pleasant hour or so drooling over the new and not so new BMW motorbikes coming and going from the cafe in the village,

    Next day we were up and on the road by 10am this is a bit of a record for us as normally no matter how hard we try 12noon seems to be our leaving time.All went well and it was a nice drive with some nice views along the way until we got to Geneva where the afore mentioned satnav let us down again and brought us right into the centre of the city so after some fancy map reading by the co pilot and the chance sighting of a sign for Annecy we were on the road again,

    We arrived in Annecy in the early afternoon and headed for the aires by the lake, just as i was advised it was jammed packed so we used the services to fill up while we were doing this we got chatting and we were asked why we would leave such a beautiful country like Ireland and drive all the way to the alps ,where to start with that one in broken French !

    I had camping international i mind but this was more of a landmark than a destination,but we wanted to find a nice site as we planned to stay 4 or 5 days,As we would not be moving for a few days our next job was to find a shop and stock up, just along the lake we found a lidl so in we went and done the shop,just as we left the lidl we seen a finger sign for Camping Les Rives du Lac http://www.lesrivesdulac-annecy.com/fr/ so working purely on the random logic that it was near the lake and the shops plus only a short cycle from the town we decided to have a look and see if they had a pitch,so into reception “le placement pour le campingcar” ? “oui” how many nights and would i like a lakeside pitch,i thought i was hearing things https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Les+Rives+du+Lac/@45.848076,6.151332,2a,90y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s-x1fex_iQaD0%2FUqp2sDYAxRI%2FAAAAAAAAWUI%2Fmz02RrXAA9c!2e4!3e12!4m2!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xa813d77048af35a5!6m1!1e1

    With the pitch setup ,sunshine the back drop of the lake and mountains chairs out and beer in hand i was very pleased with myself,this really is an area of outstanding beauty and if you ever get the chance do go and visit
    The next few days were spend doing laps of the lake on the bikes or just touring up and down the 20km long cycle track that runs by the side of the lake with a few trips into Anncey to do the touristy things a very enjoyable few days and defiantly the hi light of the trip,

    After 4 days hanging about Annecy we got itchy feet so we decided to go lake hoping and take the short trip to Aix-les-Bains,we took the mountain road which was a super drive with breath taking views,we stopped in a layby for some lunch where we happened across 2 cyclist checking out there route it turned out they were from Dublin and had flown in, they had a hard time trying to understand why we would want drive a 4 ton motorhome 800km across France different strokes for different foke as they say,
    We found the camp site in Aix-les-Bains without much trouble
    http://www.camping-sierroz.com/campingsierroz_GB/sierroz_tarifs.html
    there is also an Aires close by but like the one in Annecy it was jammed as we were coming to the end of our trip so we decided to use the campsite,the site itself was full but we were directed to a municipal type site next door but we had the use of the main site if we wanted all for €14 pre night this site was also busy but had a nice feel to it,we found a nice pitch at the back of the site with some nice shade,our reception committee was a young lad in a Irish football jersey,turned out he had just moved back to France from Ireland with his french parents he was very irish with his Ardee accent and obviously very home sick for Ireland,It was nice to hear him talk about his time in Ireland ,the Lac du Bourget and Aix-les-Bains area is a very nice area with the next 2 days spent exploring the area of the lake and the town we also had a few shopping trips,

    As the saying goes all good things come to a end and it was time to head for home i never like to be stressed making the trip to the ferry so we allowed 3 days to make our way back to Cherbourg with one stop in the centre of france ,if all went well we would have most of the day in Normandy

    We had a good run up as far as BRIARE, Loiret, Centre and used our faithful copy of all the aires in France to find an aires with a choice of 3 we went for the barrier one just down from the camp site which is laid out in pitches(we got the last pitch) ,we have been in this area before it is a lovely area www.google.com/maps/@47.643083,2.722892,3a,75y,353.95h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swoEQfP2BzjQaqZdg8M2Bhw!2e0!6m1!1e1?hl=fr
    It had been a long day and besides a quick lunch stop we had driven all day so we just cooked a nice meal and had it outside the van enjoying the last of the evening sun and headed for the bed.

    We were up early next day,the plan was to get to Normandy as soon as we could and make good of the last few days of the trip but with 400km to travel we knew it would take most of the day. We trucked on and make good time with a short stop for lunch,but with 2 big traveling days together i was glad when we landed in the aires at Port-en-Bessin-Huppain, Lower Normandy which is an elevated car park over looking the town, this area is all about ww2 with a very good museum and views of one of the Mulberry harbours a very interesting spot,again after the riggers of the days travels we didn't do much that evening so again it was a meal in the van with a few beers and a glass of wine after dinner it was nice to have a visit from the couple in a KE registered van that was also on the aires i enjoyed the crack of recounting our trips over a few beers i very nice evening indeed,it was the first irish van we encountered since we left Normandy on the way out

    With the Cherbourg ferry not until 6pm it left us with most of the day to enjoy, i made my way to the aires in Port-en-Bessin-Huppain https://www.google.ie/maps/@49.345487,-0.758085,3a,75y,300.66h,75.06t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDH-xwvB6PVqhlhRMWFAFTA!2e0
    where we parked up had breakfast then spent the rest of the day browsing the market having a lovely lunch,the place had a nice buzz to it,it was with a heavy hart we made my way back to the van to head for the ferry,you know its been a good trip when your not ready for home. The aires is a bit hard to find but would make a perfect starting or finishing point for the Cherbourg ferry it is very popular at so have a plan B

    There is not much to add after that we made good time to the ferry where we repeated our out bound routine

    Every trip has its ups and downs this one was no different on the plus side the van is a pleasure to use its nice to have a layout that works for you in my opinion its the most important thing to consider when buying a motorhome
    But we did have one or 2 issues the first one was a the small matter of the main gas burner that wouldn’t stay alight a bit annoying as i had it repaired 2 weeks before the trip,another and a bit more serious was that i got hooked up to the side of a petrol station pay box with a sharp left hand exit and in spite of some fancy manoeuvres on my part i couldn’t get away from it and in the end i managed to brake the toilet window,a bit of masking tape and forget about it and deal with when you get home,the last thing was that god forsaken satnav its a decent enough Garmin I'm not sure if i have it set up wrong i have gone over it a few times and can't find anything wrong with it,but as it stands im in the market for a new satnav!

    All in all a very enjoyable trip and now its time to start planning for this years trip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    Great post Killalanerr. Sounds like a fantastic trip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Martin_D


    Was thinking of this destination for our 3 week spin this year. The post by Killalaneer is definitely persuading me. No real experience of mountain driving - wouldn't be a fan of narrow roads with sheer drops. What are the higher climbs like?


  • Registered Users Posts: 839 ✭✭✭kelbal


    Martin_D wrote: »
    Was thinking of this destination for our 3 week spin this year. The post by Killalaneer is definitely persuading me. No real experience of mountain driving - wouldn't be a fan of narrow roads with sheer drops. What are the higher climbs like?

    We crossed the alps from Germany into Italy (via Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein). We then went from Northern Italy back into France, again via, Switzerland, with Annecy our destination. Plenty of mountain driving. We didn't do a single motorway while we were at it, we stuck to what we'd call the national roads. Absolutely no issue with narrowness or quality of the roads. Once you take it handy and are good with your gearing, not too heavy on the brakes, and give them a chance to cool down if you've been doing alot on any particular day, you'll be fine.
    There obviously are plenty of sheer drops in mountain driving, but the roads are generally so well done, that your exposure to them isn't that hair-raising. There's barriers, and you're back well enough from the edge for it to not have you near a heart attack!

    edit.. not that a barrier would be much use if your brakes fail in a 3.5 tonne motorhome :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Moomat


    kelbal wrote: »
    not that a barrier would be much use if your brakes fail in a 3.5 tonne motorhome :eek:

    Great tips on the brakes! We crossed from France into Italy through this pass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col_de_la_Lombarde
    Fantastic drive but serious issues with brake fade and brake fuild boiling on the way down into Italy, it's worth mentioning though that we were in a 96 transit with no ventilated discs or even ventilation in the wheels for that matter. The climb up was fun too; 1st gear for 5 minute streches at a time, heaters on full blast and the missus with her feet out the window to escape the furnace on her feet! :D I had checked the discs and pads before we left Ireland and they had loads of life left for. The next time I'd change them for new ones just to be sure.
    Found the roads got much narrower as soon as we crossed into Italy, very good quality but not much passing room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    Martin_D wrote: »
    Was thinking of this destination for our 3 week spin this year. The post by Killalaneer is definitely persuading me. No real experience of mountain driving - wouldn't be a fan of narrow roads with sheer drops. What are the higher climbs like?

    A beautiful part of France, thanks for the great travelogue killalanerr.

    We did the Alsace area for the Chistmas Markets 2014. The setup at Colmar is a great example of a co-share with a leisure craft marina, Galway, Waterways Ireland and others please note :rolleyes:.

    The canal aqueduct over the river Loire at Briare is a magnificent structure, so many of the place names in your piece bring back very pleasant memories :D, did you manage to see any of the storks when in Equisheim

    Thanks for brightening up a cold miserable day so far from the land of the happy motorhomer :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭SeamusG97


    kelbal wrote: »
    We crossed the alps from Germany into Italy (via Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein). We then went from Northern Italy back into France, again via, Switzerland, with Annecy our destination. Plenty of mountain driving. We didn't do a single motorway while we were at it, we stuck to what we'd call the national roads. Absolutely no issue with narrowness or quality of the roads. Once you take it handy and are good with your gearing, not too heavy on the brakes, and give them a chance to cool down if you've been doing alot on any particular day, you'll be fine.
    There obviously are plenty of sheer drops in mountain driving, but the roads are generally so well done, that your exposure to them isn't that hair-raising. There's barriers, and you're back well enough from the edge for it to not have you near a heart attack!

    edit.. not that a barrier would be much use if your brakes fail in a 3.5 tonne motorhome :eek:
    Martin D - Just go for it - you'll be fine. I've had a few hair raising moments on mountain roads but only because I trusted the GPS and wasn't looking where I was going.
    RHD can be unnerving at times when you are on the edge of the road looking down on the drop as opposed to in the centre as when driving at home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭Martin_D


    SeamusG97 wrote: »
    Martin D - Just go for it - you'll be fine. I've had a few hair raising moments on mountain roads but only because I trusted the GPS and wasn't looking where I was going.
    RHD can be unnerving at times when you are on the edge of the road looking down on the drop as opposed to in the centre as when driving at home.

    Have a LHD so more reason to get on with it - other half might disagree!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭killalanerr


    Martin_D wrote: »
    Was thinking of this destination for our 3 week spin this year. The post by Killalaneer is definitely persuading me. No real experience of mountain driving - wouldn't be a fan of narrow roads with sheer drops. What are the higher climbs like?

    @niloc1951 other than a new fridge magnet no storks

    Martin d most of the main roads don't have any major drop-offs ;) and tend to go trough the passes rather than over the top of the mountains but some of the smaller D roads make for some lovely drives just take your time and enjoy the views,as I said a beauty full area well worth the trip,

    If you want some proper mountain roads try the toll free route between Lourdes and Collioure fantastic drive https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Lourdes,+France/Collioure/@43.0898691,0.3373558,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m16!4m15!1m5!1m1!1s0xd57d3f0e00a9549:0x406f69c2f3d7c20!2m2!1d-0.045726!2d43.091463!1m5!1m1!1s0x12b07f95291fde8d:0x91f56d4265317420!2m2!1d3.084631!2d42.526752!2m1!2b1!3e0


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    @niloc1951 other than a new fridge magnet no storks

    Martin d most of the main roads don't have any major drop-offs ;) and tend to go trough the passes rather than over the top of the mountains but some of the smaller D roads make for some lovely drives just take your time and enjoy the views,as I said a beauty full area well worth the trip,

    If you want some proper mountain roads try the toll free route between Lourdes and Collioure fantastic drive https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Lourdes,+France/Collioure/@43.0898691,0.3373558,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m16!4m15!1m5!1m1!1s0xd57d3f0e00a9549:0x406f69c2f3d7c20!2m2!1d-0.045726!2d43.091463!1m5!1m1!1s0x12b07f95291fde8d:0x91f56d4265317420!2m2!1d3.084631!2d42.526752!2m1!2b1!3e0

    And if heading for Spain continue via LLanca using the coast road, absolutely amaaaaazing https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/Collioure/Llan%C3%A7%C3%A0,+Girona,+Spain/@42.4164358,3.0694347,11z/data=!4m16!4m15!1m5!1m1!1s0x12b07f95291fde8d:0x91f56d4265317420!2m2!1d3.084631!2d42.526752!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ba7cb8e3fca761:0x30f4a173bdc4351!2m2!1d3.1277854!2d42.3611418!2m1!2b1!3e0


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    If you go to that area, I would strongly suggest a day or two at Aix-les-Bains on the largest natural inland lake in France. There's an aire about 50 metres for 10 campers.


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