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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Heard that rochestown up by 3,any one at it with updates be much appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Doon by four ist point second half
    Charville missed a great goal chance.
    Back to 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Two point game,getting lively now.too good teams.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    5 point game.Some dubious referring to say the least ,and I think shane hourigan is a good ref.2-9 to1-10 points to doon

    Colin ryan with a superb goal from a free,collins had no chance.
    I think browne got charville goal.
    11min left


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    One point game great heart in charville.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Collins a super save,nash would have been proud of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    2-13 to 1-13 in favour of doon.
    Doon,credit due are a fine side.With 14 men. Charville were a credit,never gave u,couldnt have done any more.
    A credit to cork.The extra man was a big advantage.i will do a proper report later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Rochestown won,so rochestown v doon.
    They are a very good team but are beatable.
    Semifinal you would think be mallow or charville.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    I was at the Roco game. The were well on top in the 1sh with Niall Cashman lording it and the rest of the defense on top. Dolan with the goal and Shane Kingston's pace had Thurles in trouble. The ref give a few v handy frees to Thurles to leave it 1-7 0-5. Thurles upped it big time for the first fifteen minutes in the second half and got to within 2 pt and Roco hit a few poor wides and looked in trouble but the dug it out. with the midfield of David Meaney,Arron Ward and half forwards of Ciaran Cormack and the Kingstons winning enough possession to get them over the line. Niall Cashman looks potential Cork senior on this form.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    A very good game between two good sides,in a dry,Gaelic Grounds,in the Heart of the Treaty City.
    I say the word "Heart"as that is one "word"that both teams had today ,and for such young lads ,was a credit to them,as down to 14,for most of the game ,Chareville showed tremendous heart to never give up ,and Doon ,credit due,showed just the same amount of heart,to withstand a determined Charville,who threw the ktichen sink at them towards the end,but Doon were resilent enough to grind out a hard earned win.

    With young schools,I never believe in rating each player ,or saying a lad was poor,as these as are young lads ,and unlike at other levels at Inter County ,are just learning ,and the "fun element of the game "to a point is there ,and should be.

    To me no player out of the 34 aprox played,bad,they all give there all ,and mistakes are inevitable at school level anyway.
    There was lads that stood out on both teams and to acknowlege them is purely a reflection on them ,and no way a criticisim of anyone that played today.

    Cian Collins made a vital save,with ten minutes to go ,a real agility save,and could not be faulted for Joe Longeran goal,as there was a goal mouth scrap,and very hard to see the ball.
    Colin ryan who hit a bullet of a free ,and was superb from placed ball,got a great goal,and such was the pace,velocity,ferocity of the shot from the pallas green youngster,Collins had no chance.
    Charville made a lot of posistional changes like doon,from there last match,in Shane feane a fine player,unlucky not to start and Tim o mahony a centre back,started at centre forward.


    At the same token,shane o connell a half forward,but no stranger to half back,started at 7,,while Tom Hayes a good full back,did not start,but came on,and Michael Dee,Murrohe Boher played at midfield instead of centre forward.Jp moloney,a midfielder for newtownshandrum played half back.In truth,every tactical change and decision by both managements worked brillantly.
    Shane O Connell,with Stephen ryan formed a super half back line for Doon.Ryan was sublime,but Tim O Mahony was just as good,worked tirelessy and won great ball of ryan.
    He reminded me of the great Newtownshandrum ,pmichael Morrisey ,who would have been a great Cork forward ,only for an awful injury in wexford deprived us of a great Cork centre forward.Tim is only 16,won a county u16,at half back for Newtown ,but looked very much at home at Harty Cup,and will really benfit from today.


    Patrick cummins was very good,but out of all that played very well,there is only one Man of the match,and it was Michael Dee I think,great hurling,very strong,and worked so hard.

    Dean coleman ,a huge talent ,was good ,but paddy o loughlin was tenacious and really the two lads had a great battle.
    Joe Lonergan was terrific, a great target man and I cant wait to watch him again.

    Daniel relihan and Darren Casey were very good at midfield,as was cillan o gorman and kyle mccarthy.
    Jack buckley was very good,and I think it was him,in the far corner(not sure,who ever it was  that got a superb point from distance.

    Dean coleman got a point equally as good,those scores were a credit to any game,i am priviledged to been able to see them.


    Shane hourigan is a good ref,and I rate very highely,saw him in the u17 all ireland tournament in Mallow,and he was super.On both sides,both charville and doon,had reason to be upset with some calls.
    Charville got a score at a crucial point,when it was a wide and ,he was in a great view to overule the linesmen who got it wrong.


    Darren butler was sent of ,and any Doon fan would say it was harsh.It was not a dirty pull,or cynical,no young lad at this level has intent,it was just a   clumsy pull(and that  is not saying he lacks skill,definetly not,)it Is just trying to find a word for it ,as it was not a wild pull , but clumsy in that,very much understandable in heavy conditions.A yellow card was enough,no need for red.No fans likes to see a school player sent of.

    The lad is not a dirty player,and no Doon or Chareville lad had a dirty stroke all day.Both came to play hurling.Doon were so good,I do not want to take from them and say they would not have won,if it was 15 v 15,as we can't be sure, and they  may well have won anyway,but it was a huge advantage to them ,and charville faced a huge uphill battle ,with 14 men.


    A great game,Credit Doon who used the expierence from last year ,and have a fine team.Charville yes they lost on the scoreboard,but in truth they did not loose in any other sense,as both on and off the field ,they conducted themselves with grace,dignity ,and showed great hurling and heart ,and should be proud of themselves ,they represented Cork Hurling superbly well,and with such a young team,and a good few eligble next year,will learn from today and be a strong side again next year in this wonderful,truly wonderful competition.


    Doon and Rochestown has the makings of a classic.

    One final point,there was a bit on both sides,not much but booing for free takers.It is not nice to see at Harty Cup level .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    I was at the Roco game. The were well on top in the 1sh with Niall Cashman lording it and the rest of the defense on top. Dolan with the goal and Shane Kingston's pace had Thurles in trouble. The ref give a few v handy frees to Thurles to leave it 1-7 0-5. Thurles upped it big time for the first fifteen minutes in the second half and got to within 2 pt and Roco hit a few poor wides and looked in trouble but the dug it out. with the midfield of David Meaney,Arron Ward and half forwards of Ciaran Cormack and the Kingstons winning enough possession to get them over the line. Niall Cashman looks potential Cork senior on this form.
    Cashman is a super talent,saw him at u21 and he is a real talent.should be on the u21 panel.
    Did he stay a centre back?
    Do you have the team?
    A great win without mark o connor.Had thurles any standout players?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    Don't have the Roco team. Backs were v tight. John Cashman was v good also. Meaney/Ward came good at the end but I thought would be better at midfield. Dolan looked v sharpe as did Shane Kingston up front. Two corner forwards are v weak at this level and they need MO'C back They might be a bit short of winning the thing outright. Great to see a strong city side again, the first in 20 yrs since Sean Og's Mon side. Roco had a strong Dean Ryan side also this yr so things look hopeful for the future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Don't have the Roco team. Backs were v tight. John Cashman was v good also. Meaney/Ward came good at the end but I thought would be better at midfield. Dolan looked v sharpe as did Shane Kingston up front. Two corner forwards are v weak at this level and they need MO'C back They might be a bit short of winning the thing outright. Great to see a strong city side again, the first in 20 yrs since Sean Og's Mon side. Roco had a strong Dean Ryan side also this yr so things look hopeful for the future.
    Mark should be back ?

    Doon are at times in thef ull back line weak ,in that charville could have had 3 goals,and hayes when he came on was very good.

    The key will be getting an advantage over michael dee and cummins and not letting ryan or connell to dominate.

    With meaney and hopefully o connor back,and kingston and ward to drop back they have players to do it.

    Yeah,to win it is going to be tough.Ard scoil are the favs but I have seen plenty of to believe that can beat dungarvan and get a second crack at ard scoil.


    When is that being re played the hamilton game.
    Mark dolan I think is super,the closest thing I have seen with the potential to be the next joe deane.

    What was long like at full back?
    Agree ,Cork need the glen,rockieptq,na piarsaigh,douglas to be strong.A city hurler always had a cocky ness,arrogrance,a slickness ,and a confidence that Cork teams need and you could assiocate with many a cork team, ,combine that with the doggness,heart ,and the determination of lads ,with just as much hurling in clubs outside the city,that always is a great balance.
    Mayfield are doing trogian work ,and I expect all corners of the city clubs to be strong in the future.Combine that with the emeregence of other clubs that is great for Cork hurling.


    The appointment of Crowley from Killeagh as a GDA,gives me hope ,and belief that we at the top level have began to see the light,and do what we should have done years ago .He was with Dublin schools and the minors and has great expertise and expierence from hes time with Dublin,and crucially he is very much in touch with the modern game at schools etc,and knows you must build from the bottom up.There is no short cut to constant,sustained success,at intercouny you must have a solid foundation and structure.

    Good news the Rock is likey to be with the cork u16 hurlers.A lot of work still to do and I still belive we need more full time GDAS.

    Also new guys must be given jobs in schools not the same faces.Teddy mac is involved with Ag muire in hurling and chriost ri in football at either u14 or 15 level.We should get more coaches that are young like. modern players just out of the game.
    I know Ken o hallorahan is involved with rochestown ,Michael walsh involved with a local school in kildorrey ,got to a cork county final this year.
    Donal og cusack,joe deane have all done work with imokilly at youth etc.
    It is something ,that we should embrace more.

    Liam shorten ,and Padraig gould are both teachers at Ag muire and present day players,and we should utilse there talents.I think Valerie Mulcahy is there,another elite athlete with a lot to offer coaching wise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Its looking very unlikely Ill make the final on Sunday but was hoping to get there. I assume it is not going to be televised?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Its looking very unlikely Ill make the final on Sunday but was hoping to get there. I assume it is not going to be televised?

    No but 103 fm are doing it live,or kerry radio who credit due are superb in there commentating.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    No but 103 fm are doing it live,or kerry radio who credit due are superb in there commentating.

    Oh I dunno if I could be listening to weeshie! 103 it is then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Oh I dunno if I could be listening to weeshie! 103 it is then.

    Id rather him than Paudie:|he does not focus on the play ,and goes in to things that having nothing to do with a game,and never gives regular scoring.A very nice man though.!


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭corkrobinhood


    Paudie has got very poor the last 2 years,as you said he wanders off the point,gets scores wrong far too often,no doubting the craic is great with him but when your on the edge of your seat at home listening to a game with your team on the verge or winning or loosing,it doesnt help the situation at all!


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    Ger Cunningham in charge of Cork U15s this year... Great to have people of the calibre of him and Landers in charge of future of Cork Hurling. Pity there can't be more - the likes of Joe Deane, SOOH, Donal Óg, Sully, etc. would be brilliant men to have involved!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    Ger Cunningham in charge of Cork U15s this year... Great to have people of the calibre of him and Landers in charge of future of Cork Hurling. Pity there can't be more - the likes of Joe Deane, SOOH, Donal Óg, Sully, etc. would be brilliant men to have involved!


    Superb news,truly superb,the Rock is with the u16 team apparently ,so there is a superb productive line up to senior,but there is.unforunalety a malfunction in the production line at u21.

    Peter cody,eddie enright,and cunningham ,keith ricken,john grainger,involved at college level,with some,good young coaches,involved with club teams next year along with Dean Ryan cup winning team,and a good performance so far in the harty cup,the foundations are being laid.

    Results wont bear fruit immediately,the key is to stick with it ,and keep consistentcy in managerial appointments and keep evolving and embrace and encourage change.

    All it takes is one appointment not up to standard,could undermine the great work and progress made at other levels.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Any know when and where Hamilton and Dungarvan is likey to be refixed for in the Harty Cup?


  • Registered Users Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Connorzee


    Tuesday apparently


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Connorzee wrote: »
    Tuesday apparently

    Thanks any venue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Dungarvan v Hamilton, Tuesday 21 at 1:30 in Mallow according to gaacork.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    Dungarvan v Hamilton, Tuesday 21 at 1:30 in Mallow according to gaacork.ie

    Your a gentleman.
    A good venue ,close enough to both teams in terms of distance travelling wise.
    It should never have been castlematyr,surface of the ptich not up to it.
    Mallow is a complex two talented teams like these at the very least deserve to play there.
    Mallow have got a lot of big games since December.


  • Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭TheBigGreen


    I think it's mad that Damien Cahalane is gonna try being a dual player after a double hip operation and he is only 22!

    Wish him all the best but I think he should concentrate on football.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    I think it's mad that Damien Cahalane is gonna try being a dual player after a double hip operation and he is only 22!

    Wish him all the best but I think he should concentrate on football.

    At last common sense prevails.Totally agree.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Horse84


    I can't see it happening this year with Damien being honest, he'll be lucky to be ready for anything come championship.
    The echo is also reporting that Conor sull, Cronin and worryingly Seamus Harnedy are all a doubt for limerick game. What's the extent of their injuries does anyone know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Innish_Rebel


    Your a gentleman.
    A good venue ,close enough to both teams in terms of distance travelling wise.
    It should never have been castlematyr,surface of the ptich not up to it.
    Mallow is a complex two talented teams like these at the very least deserve to play there.
    Mallow have got a lot of big games since December.

    I think Castlemartyr knew they were in trouble as after draw was made before the Christmas break Hamilton asked if they could hold a training session up there to get a lay of the land so to speak and it was turned down as they didn't want to damage the pitch - wasn't a good omen for the game going ahead.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    I think Castlemartyr knew they were in trouble as after draw was made before the Christmas break Hamilton asked if they could hold a training session up there to get a lay of the land so to speak and it was turned down as they didn't want to damage the pitch - wasn't a good omen for the game going ahead.
    Jesus not good in relation to the ptich in Castlematyr.
    Even mallows warm up ptich is playable on a wet day and is well able in this rain hold ,two games in 3 days .


    Harney is in the long list of players in cork gaa with hip prnblems.He got the all clear in december for avoiding an operation,so I wouldnt read too much in to it,and take it as gospel he was out ,as they said the same the week up to the final replay and he played.
    There was a preview last week of cork in a paper and it had aidan walsh down to play ,and that cork last played ul in 2007,in the mcgrath cup which was wrong.It depends on who wrote it ,before I would take it as gospel.

    Conor sul has had injury since after the all ireland ,as far as I am aware.
    It is great Cahalane is with them.Don't expect him to come in and bang 8 points a game,he needs time to develop,but I have seen him regulary throughout the years to know a star when I see one.

    Very grounded,down to earth and is naturally strong,mobile,athletic,loads of hurling.

    I posted here in october at ard scoil and hammies game in the harty cup a goal he got,and it was pure,instinct,very hard to teach,pure speed in hand and eye cordination and similar reflex to lehanes goal against six mile bridge,but cahalane got a goal that was an overheard strike with two defenders with him.


    Fantastic he is there.Lawton is a great addition,Nicky English I believe rates him highley.I regard English as one of the most asttute men around.

    Paul haughney had a good season,has the hurling,i dont doubt,has speed in hands as fast as boxer.I have doubts and remain to be convinced about hes ability to fight,get stuck in ,and up to to the rough and tumble.Fine at minor ,but did not stand out at u21,,and he was used as a sub in munster u21 2011 final,while harnedy twilddled hes thumbs on the bench.


    I would love to see the full panel,and did cormac walsh,nagle,spillane,michael sul make it and who is gone is just as important.


    As for cahalane,people know my views on that at this stage,a dissaster waiting to happen and both jbm and cuthbhert made poor poor calls.


    I dont know the story or havent heard cronin was a doubt.


    Limerick are without,downes,hannon,dowling,and hickey more than likely so it should balance out.I must try and make a cork training session in the next week ,as to have a look.


    Like I said sunday pa callaghan has been asked at least 3 times to join,he hasnt but that was on hes side ,as he has a back injury like I said.


    If he gets that sorted don't be suprised to see him join up at a later date.


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