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Seven-year old announces he's gay

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  • #32
    sunflower27
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    He's only 7, he has no idea if he is gay or not and he has no idea what sex actually is.

    The mother is a ****ing idiot.

    Mummy is no doubt going to cash in on the exposure... you can just see her now doing all the Talk shows over there.

    Whether the kid is gay is by the by (aghhhhh, pun again), why should she be advertising it to the whole world? Surely it is his business.


  • #33
    orchidsrpretty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭orchidsrpretty


    Can't remember what it was like to be seven, but for people who can or have kids do they fancy anyone at that age?
    If not how would he know?


  • #34
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    My name is URL wrote: »
    At 7; most kids would have a handle on their own sexuality and a basic understanding of gender differences, whether they know about sex or not.

    Not really, most 7 year olds would be aware that girls and boys are different, but not really how or why. "A basic understanding of gender differences"...gerrowadat. Gender identity absolute, and from even younger...differences are still a long way off.

    Also, the kid is saying it's gay, in that it wants to sex up other boys. So if you admit the child wouldn't know about sex then.......
    sunflower27 wrote: »
    Mummy is no doubt going to cash in on the exposure... you can just see her now doing all the Talk shows over there.

    Whether the kid is gay is by the by (aghhhhh, pun again), why should she be advertising it to the whole world? Surely it is his business.

    I also think Mammy is just being too accommodating. If my newphew said to me "Uncle Logical, I'm gay"...i'd ask him to explain what gay meant. Take it from there.


  • #35
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    sunflower27 wrote: »
    Mummy is no doubt going to cash in on the exposure... you can just see her now doing all the Talk shows over there.

    Whether the kid is gay is by the by (aghhhhh, pun again), why should she be advertising it to the whole world? Surely it is his business.

    There was a part of me, while reading the story, that couldn't help thinking one of her main motivations for writing it was to say "Look at me! I'm such a great, liberal modern parent who embraces her son's probable homosexuality! Aren't I great? Give me attention!"


  • #36
    keepkeyyellow
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭keepkeyyellow


    I knew I was gay since I was 11 and had a barbie and a play kitchen when I was even younger and I'm far from confused. And for the love of god will people stop asking gay guys would they ever try it out just to be sure, I don't go around asking straight guys to try it up the chuff to see if they might like it...


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  • #37
    sunflower27
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    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Not really, most 7 year olds would be aware that girls and boys are different, but not really how or why. "A basic understanding of gender differences"...gerrowadat.

    Also, the kid is saying it's gay, in that it wants to sex up other boys. So if you admit the child wouldn't know about sex then.......



    I also think Mammy is just being too accommodating. If my newphew said to me "Uncle Logical, I'm gay"...i'd ask him to explain what gay meant. Take it from there.

    Yes, most definitely. Heaven help the lad if he decides to tell mommy about a new 'girlfriend' in the next few years.:P

    End of the book deal there :P


  • #38
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    There was a part of me, while reading the story, that couldn't help thinking one of her main motivations for writing it was to say "Look at me! I'm such a great, liberal modern parent who embraces her son's probable homosexuality! Aren't I great? Give me attention!"

    And that would be bad?

    I'm amazed that so many people on this board pour over so many American news outlets but I am not sure how much you have read about the string of suicides happening across America by kids being teased and rejected because they were different. A ten year old girl who lived in a small town just five minutes away from my hometown committed suicide because the kids at school called her fat and ugly. There was another recent story of a gay college student whose roommate videotaped him having sex with another student and then posted it on an amateur porn site. He jumped off from a bridge.

    In this age where kids are nitpicked by their peers and feel that they should hide who they are in order to conform and hide in plain site, I think it is a good thing to have a young child know from the beginning that no matter who he is and who he loves, his parents are going to love and accept him.


  • #39
    starbelgrade
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    Killer Wench wrote: »
    A ten year old girl who lived in a small town just five minutes away from my hometown committed suicide because the kids at school called her fat and ugly. There was another recent story of a gay college student whose roommate videotaped him having sex with another student and then posted it on an amateur porn site. He jumped off from a bridge.


    It's not just America either - In France a skinny man died of a big disease with a little name. By chance his girlfriend came across a needle and soon she did the same.


  • #40
    sunflower27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Killer Wench wrote: »
    And that would be bad?

    I'm amazed that so many people on this board pour over so many American news outlets but I am not sure how much you have read about the string of suicides happening across America by kids being teased and rejected because they were different. A ten year old girl who lived in a small town just five minutes away from my hometown committed suicide because the kids at school called her fat and ugly. There was another recent story of a gay college student whose roommate videotaped him having sex with another student and then posted it on an amateur porn site. He jumped off from a bridge.

    In this age where kids are nitpicked by their peers and feel that they should hide who they are in order to conform and hide in plain site, I think it is a good thing to have a young child know from the beginning that no matter who he is and who he loves, his parents are going to love and accept him.

    I don't think that anyone is against the parents being understanding and loving, but broadcasting this to the world. Does that not make him more of a target for bullies?


  • #41
    starbelgrade
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    sunflower27 wrote: »
    I don't think that anyone is against the parents being understanding and loving, but broadcasting this to the world. Does that not make him more of a target for bullies?

    Only if his 7 year old mates read blogs.


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  • #42
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Killer Wench wrote: »
    And that would be bad?

    I'm amazed that so many people on this board pour over so many American news outlets but I am not sure how much you have read about the string of suicides happening across America by kids being teased and rejected because they were different. A ten year old girl who lived in a small town just five minutes away from my hometown committed suicide because the kids at school called her fat and ugly. There was another recent story of a gay college student whose roommate videotaped him having sex with another student and then posted it on an amateur porn site. He jumped off from a bridge.

    In this age where kids are nitpicked by their peers and feel that they should hide who they are in order to conform and hide in plain site, I think it is a good thing to have a young child know from the beginning that no matter who he is and who he loves, his parents are going to love and accept him.

    Of course I don't have a problem with a parent accepting their child's sexuality.
    I'm not sure how you inferred that.

    What I would find a little unpalatable but not a big deal is a parent using their child's sexuality to gain attention for themselves and make themselves look good: ie focusing on themselves, not the child.

    I'm not saying that was definitely her motivation: as I said, there was just a little voice in my head while I was reading it suggesting that she might be boasting a bit intentionally or otherwise.


  • #43
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,057 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Not really, most 7 year olds would be aware that girls and boys are different, but not really how or why. "A basic understanding of gender differences"...gerrowadat.

    Also, the kid is saying it's gay, in that it wants to sex up other boys. So if you admit the child wouldn't know about sex then.......

    You're looking at it from a better vantage point, being an adult and able to differentiate the many aspects that make up human sexuality etc. Sexual contact, or the desire to have sexual contact is only one aspect of that, though.

    Kids do have an understanding of sexuality, even if they don't have the full book of stickers on the subject. You don't just automatically waken up some day and 'come out' as a straight person. It's assumed within the contextual norms that society creates. It shouldn't come as any surprise that kids who are or may be gay realise that some of those norms don't quite sit well with them, and say something about it. Of course, they may not know fully what being gay* means.

    *hey, even the word 'gay' is one that was created and overly sexualised by adults, it doesn't and can't apply to the understanding of sexual development, so in a roundabout way I guess I'm sort of agreeing with you =p


  • #44
    starbelgrade
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    The King of Moo wrote: »
    there was just a little voice in my head while I was reading it suggesting that she might be boasting a bit intentionally or otherwise.

    I bet you read it in a Carry Bradshaw voice.


  • #45
    BunShopVoyeur
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  • #46
    sunflower27
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Only if his 7 year old mates read blogs.

    Considering it is all over the Web, I imagine it's not just his friends that will know.


  • #47
    doomed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭doomed


    FFS he's 7.

    His so called coming out is as relevant as his current preference for peanut butter.


  • #48
    El Weirdo
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Kids do have an understanding of sexuality, even if they don't have the full book of stickers on the subject.
    Got... got... got... got... need... got... got... need... need... got... got... got... got... got... oh badly need!


  • #49
    Jane Eyre
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭Jane Eyre


    I think those parents have done exactly the right thing. My gay friend knew she was gay from about age 5 and if her parents had handled it like them, she would be a much happier person today.

    It's fantastic that the little fella has a word to describe who he is at such a young age. And that the word does not have negative connotations for him.


  • #50
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 32,988 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Now if all parents handled it that way the world would be an infinitely better place.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #51
    sunflower27
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    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Now if all parents handled it that way the world would be an infinitely better place.

    And the story wouldn't make the news either. :)


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  • #52
    Chuck Stone
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    I see people with the gay agenda are coming out in force in this thread.


  • #53
    Daroxtar
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    What the fúck were they doing watching Glee?


  • #54
    johnr1
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    Why wouldn't he know he's gay? it's common in everyday media that he's been exposed to since birth. If he watches forward thinking media, there would be no negative vibes coming at him.

    I'm straight. I've known I liked girls since I was about three. Seriously.
    I gave my pocket money to my mum to buy a birthday present for a girl I liked when I was about 4. (this was before birthday parties were the norm) Then I was too shy to give it to her, and had to get my mom to give it to her mom for her :o
    When I was five I wanted to marry my schoolfriend's mom cos she had boobs,- among other reasons. :D

    If I remember correctly, it wasn't cool to announce that to your mates in school till we were at least ten or eleven. Girls were icky, they cried and scratched and stuff, what would you be doing liking one of them? But I did.

    I think it's great that he lives in an envoirnment where he doesen't see a problem.

    The parents making hay of it is disgusting though.

    .


  • #55
    Babybuff
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    I fell irrevocably and unconditionally in love with a girl when I was 14 and all I wanted to do was kiss her but I knew that would be gay and just wasn't right so I didn't. Wish I did now though, wish I figured it out sooner.


  • #56
    efb
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj6dkz_ee8Q


  • #57
    RedFFWolf
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    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Could it be argued he sees it around him with his parents friends and then is open to it.

    Is it environment or something you are born with?

    I don't know, just asking


    It makes me think of an intersting thought experiment. If a new born baby was raised in a controlled environment of all males till he reached his adolescent years, would he feel sexually attracted to men by pure environment (and yes, he would know about such thoughts), or would genetic hard-wiring be more influential if he suddenly saw females for the first time afterwards? (Also makes you think of all the people who get turned on by the gender they are not attracted to, as they were tricked into thinking a person was otherwise because that person was dressed up as and had the appearance of their attraction).

    Of course, there are so many factors to consider in; my apologies, it was a bit of a thought tangent...


    Well, I knew I had a "special liking", later just termed as "sexuality" towards the male side of life since the age of 6. Twenty years old now and still the same! Never repressed it, but pretended to my friends otherwise - but I never felt I had to repress it, because it felt so normal to me, and I never felt I shouldn't be the way I am, I just didn't want my friends to think strangely of me.


  • #58
    PK2008
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    When I was 7 I told my parents I was a fire engine




    ...........a big gay one


  • #59
    Caraville
    Registered Users Posts: 854 ✭✭✭Caraville


    I'm delighted that his mother accepted him no matter what, but even if he is definitely gay, I'd still be wary of the fact that he's only 7 so I'd rather he wasn't having those kind of feelings towards either sex at that age.

    There was a boy in my class in primary school and looking back now it was so flipping obvious he was gay. But sure we didn't know any different at the time, and I've no doubt that he felt that perhaps he was different, but he just went about his business like the rest of us- and he also wasn't going around at 7 saying he fancied boys, just like us girls. He has come out since, but that was as a teen or adult. Noticing that boys and girls are different to each other as a child is one thing, but having sexual feelings towards them at 7 is just a bit sad to me. Where's the innocence?? :(


  • #60
    Coriolanus
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    I don't see the problem. Some boys announce they like girls at that age, so if heteros can have an early awakening at least to some aspects of their sexuality I don't see why a gay kid can't too.


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  • #61
    Caraville
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    Daroxtar wrote: »
    What the fúck were they doing watching Glee?

    Actually yeah, I never thought of that... I know you probably meant it in a kind of "who the hell would watch that crap" but actually come to think of it, it's not really suitable for a seven year old... there's a fair few sexual references and a few other bits I'm not sure would be deemed suitable for under 10s. I doubt, for example, it would get a "U" classification if it was a film. Or maybe I'm just a bit conservative- I don't think I am generally though...


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