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  • #62
    yeppydeppy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    I've no problems with security - I'm behind a firewall and I don't visit dodgy sites (often). On the matter of security - people go on about how security is so important as if you're going to be hacked the minute you go on the net without security. If you are that worried about security install ubuntu.


  • #63
    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    I've no problems with security - I'm behind a firewall and I don't visit dodgy sites (often).

    It doesn't matter if you are using a firewall because if your browser is vulnerable it can easily be attacked whether you use a firewall or not. If your browser has a few vulnerabilities then they can easily be hacked into through a back-door.


  • #64
    yeppydeppy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    zenno wrote: »
    It doesn't matter if you are using a firewall because if your browser is vulnerable it can easily be attacked whether you use a firewall or not. If your browser has a few vulnerabilities then they can easily be hacked into through a back-door.

    Please see someone else's post futher up about security of IE9.


  • #65
    zenno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    The more secure you are the less chance you have of getting hacked or malicious code getting to you. It's a no-brainer, just saying, it's better to be safe than sorry.

    If your browser like internet explorer has constant security vulnerabilities you are never safe and are wide open.


  • #66
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Versions of Internet Explorer (and the underlying OS) have become progressively more secure as time has gone one.
    Internet Explorer will never disappear due to its use in business and companies around the world. Even on the standard user level, outside of online forums which are generally frequented by the more techie people out there, IE is still commonly used.

    Security is much more than your browser.


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  • #67
    yeppydeppy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    http://askbobrankin.com/which_browser_is_the_most_secure.html


  • #68
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    44leto wrote: »
    Explorer 8 is as good as Firefox and chrome, but I just tried to download explorer 9 and I was given a fkucyou your version of windows does not support it,, my comp is only 3 months old.

    Typical typical MS.

    Either you're on Windows XP, where it won't work at all, or you need to install service packs if you're on Vista.
    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    Is it cool to hate IE?
    It seems to be that way alright, just as it's cool to hate Windows. I couldn't give a feck what people use, once they don't overload it with toolbars and plugins.


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    I've no problems with security - I'm behind a firewall and I don't visit dodgy sites (often). On the matter of security - people go on about how security is so important as if you're going to be hacked the minute you go on the net without security. If you are that worried about security install ubuntu.

    I think the Blaster and Sasser worms in 2003 sparked this one. But you need to remember that at the time, Windows shipped with the firewall off by default and many people had direct connections to the internet with no router. Things have changed big time now.


  • #70
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    I'm sorry but IE is the best web browzer ever. I've been on the internet for over 15 years now so I know a thing or two about it at this stage. Fact.


  • #71
    Stiffler2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    Browzar is where's it at. It's what us pro porn surfers use.
    It doesn't install on your pc / laptop. It runs from a standalone exe.

    It does not leave cookies, cache, history or anything else so I know my missus is safe from finding out my habits.



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    http://www.browzar.com/


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  • #72
    deconduo
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 4,281 Mod ✭✭✭✭deconduo


    zenno wrote: »
    The more secure you are the less chance you have of getting hacked or malicious code getting to you. It's a no-brainer, just saying, it's better to be safe than sorry.

    If your browser like internet explorer has constant security vulnerabilities you are never safe and are wide open.
    zenno wrote: »
    The whole fact of the matter is which browser is the most secure from vulnerabilities and I have to say firefox is. If you want to use a browser like internet explorer then you are wide open to attack it's that simple.

    I personally only use firefox because it has better security than the rest of other browsers and not just because it might look good but for it's better security. If you do not care about security then by all means use internet explorer.

    It has nothing to do with looks. It is all about your personal security.

    IE9 is the most secure browser when used properly, it just lags behind in speed and efficiency. Chrome is pretty secure as well but firefox is terrible in comparison, especially if you have lots of plugins/addons. However if you aren't an idiot its pretty easy to not get viruses/trojans etc.


  • #73
    whitesands
    Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭whitesands


    Standard Toaster wrote: »
    I'm sorry but IE is the best web browzer ever. I've been on the internet for over 15 years now so I know a thing or two about it at this stage. Fact.
    Don't run malwarebytes whatever you do, your machine would probably blow up!!!


  • #74
    challengemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    I've no problems with security - I'm behind a firewall and I don't visit dodgy sites (often). On the matter of security - people go on about how security is so important as if you're going to be hacked the minute you go on the net without security. If you are that worried about security install ubuntu.

    The browser and the operating system are fairly unrelated as far as that goes unless you randomly download and open .exe files for fun, in which case browser doesn't matter a damn.

    Gonna go out on a limb here and guess that since the last time I used ubuntu it hasn't started incorporating IE into the distro


  • #75
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    kippy wrote: »
    It's still the number one browser in corporate land.

    Yup. I work for one of the largest companies in the world and they only just made Firefox our official browser for internal use. But...about 30% of our intranet (internal web sites) pages don't work in Firefox. It's amazing how slow companies are to change. I have to use MS IE in work for certain tasks, so I end up browsing boards.ie with it rather than opening another browser.


  • #76
    cashback
    Registered Users Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭cashback


    I work in the UK and the company still uses IE6. Nightmare trying to access most sites at this stage.


  • #77
    Rabidlamb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    I switched to Firefox years ago cause of Ad Block & Download Helper.
    Took a look at chrome once & as I couldn't find bookmarks inside 60 seconds I didn't like it.


  • #78
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    CrazyRabbit wrote: »
    Yup. I work for one of the largest companies in the world and they only just made Firefox our official browser for internal use. But...about 30% of our intranet (internal web sites) pages don't work in Firefox. It's amazing how slow companies are to change. I have to use MS IE in work for certain tasks, so I end up browsing boards.ie with it rather than opening another browser.
    Firefox isn't as integrated into the OS as IE is, this causes some issues for integrated authentication and the likes. Companies spent serious money ensuring their internal sites and web apps worked with IE, they wont want to spend more money getting them working with firefox or another browser that may not support as much integration and features, particularily when most large organisations are already relatively well protected from any security vulnerabilities that IE may somehow expose a PC to.


  • #79
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Opera anyone?


  • #80
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I have worked on over 10 IT projects for different companies. Every single one of them used IE. Like it or not but it still has a place in Enterprise because it is very secure compared to the likes of Google Chrome
    or maybe it's because of the API, a lot of apps use IE as their interface. So paradoxically for some projects IE is used for just about everything except browsing the internet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_%28layout_engine%29

    The big problem with IE is that it's integrated into the OS, which means it's kinda difficult to sandbox.


  • #81
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    or maybe it's because of the API, a lot of apps use IE as their interface. So paradoxically for some projects IE is used for just about everything except browsing the internet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_%28layout_engine%29

    The big problem with IE is that it's integrated into the OS, which means it's kinda difficult to sandbox.

    But a lot of companies also standardize on one browser. They don't allow Safari, Chrome or Firefox in their environment. So in those cases IE is used for browsing the internet. If I open IE first in the morning, I will most likely use it for browsing without noticing for the first while...

    Also some software vendors have web applications which do integrate with IE, some being internal and some being external. External would be browsing. There's a few web conferencing softwares that just don't seem to play well with Firefox and Chrome


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  • #82
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    wendell borton wrote: »
    Opera anyone?

    More of a hard rock person to be honest.


  • #83
    Pushtrak
    Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    wendell borton wrote: »
    Opera anyone?
    Opera is pretty good. I prefer it to Firefox. But I prefer Chrome to either. I don't currently have it installed though. It was being annoying as the default program for torrents some time back, long story so I just uninstalled it back then. From what I understand, an Opera 12 has been released. Might download see how it is.


  • #84
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Anyone familiar with GPOs for Firefox or Chrome? (I assume they exist??)


  • #85
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,828 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    I am doing a major project for college www.churchofcrockford.com and it does not work well on IE9. My website/app is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and IE9 has problems displaying the canvas properly as well as my menu's. Chrome, Firefox and Safari can display it properly. It even works on my iPhone which surprised me.

    Stay clear of IE9 if you are into web development as it is not compatible with HTMl5 and CSS3. Microsoft says it is fully HTMl5 and CSS3 compatible but don't believe what they tell you.


  • #86
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Ronan Leonard wrote: »
    I am doing a major project for college www.churchofcrockford.com and it does not work well on IE9. My website/app is written in HTML5 and CSS3 and IE9 has problems displaying the canvas properly as well as my menu's. Chrome, Firefox and Safari can display it properly. It even works on my iPhone which surprised me.

    Stay clear of IE9 if you are into web development as it is not compatible with HTMl5 and CSS3. Microsoft says it is fully HTMl5 and CSS3 compatible but don't believe what they tell you.
    Why would you steer clear of it?
    If you are a web developer one of the main things to worry about is cross browser support. If your website doesn't work in IE 9 (or 8) then you are going to have your website look kack on a large proportion of the internet users PC's.
    If your site doesn't work in IE 9, you need to make it work in IE9.


  • #87
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    wendell borton wrote: »
    Opera anyone?

    Opera's pretty good. Probably the second best to Chrome. I think Firefox has really fallen behind in recent times.


  • #88
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Standard Toaster wrote: »
    Anyone familiar with GPOs for Firefox or Chrome? (I assume they exist??)

    The only ones I am familiar with are the ones that stop the installation of either app (standard GPO's)

    There is an ADM file for Firefox, in which you can configure a number of settings, however I dont think there are half as many options configurable via GPO (not 100% sure on that just basing on what I have read)
    There are some basic templates available for Chrome also but with limited functionality as opposed to IE.
    You could in theory do a custom GPO however it would require some work and for the majority of enterprises IE is perfect.


  • #89
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Just checked out IE9 on my laptop (where did it come from!), and it's surprisingly clean and fast. Very Chrome-like, but I'll still use Chrome.


  • #90
    Robdude
    Closed Accounts Posts: 709 ✭✭✭Robdude


    There was a time when web browsers were actual products. You'd go to the store and BUY one. With money. And you'd go home and install it.

    And there was a big difference between them.

    If a site didn't work on X and you had X - you were pretty much screwed. You could do some weird hacks, sometimes, but it's not like you were going to go out and BUY another browser.

    Back then, people got pretty fired up over the browser someone used.

    Now - I don't understand why anyone cares. It would take you all of 15 minutes to download and install Chrome, FireFox, IE, Opera and anything else you wanted. And they'd all work for just about everything. Without any problems.

    They all have, pretty much, the same features as one another.
    The performance differences are insignificant drops in the bucket.

    I did some web design a while ago and got in the habit of using IE/O/FF/C and I'm telling you, I don't care. Any of them will get the job done. I really can hardly tell which browser I'm using.


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  • #91
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,381 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Robdude wrote: »
    I did some web design a while ago and got in the habit of using IE/O/FF/C and I'm telling you, I don't care. Any of them will get the job done. I really can hardly tell which browser I'm using.

    I'd agree with the majority of that, with the cavaet that if you were in an enterprise using web based apps and the like, you'd probably be better using IE as most internal web based apps are designed specificilly for IE.


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