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Gardai proposals to ban firearms
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I agree with you. The quality of the logic in the arguments is awful. It is written in the language of the tabloids. There are many examples of specific to general assertions and little statistical evidence to support such assertions.I am amazed that the senior officers in the Civil Service, especially the DOJ, would allow such a publication--but they have no top man at the moment!
My point may have been a little too subtle - READ INSTEAD "This report was not written by DoJ"0 -
Okay, so if members of An Garda Síochána are not suitably tasked for this, who would be?
Genuine Question,
Thanks,
kerry4sam
Simple ,like in any civilised EU country that doesnt fear their citizens having arms.This is mostly handled by a civillian staff in what is the equivilent of their county/city councils. Take Germany[as I know this one the best] it is the Lands rat amt a type of super council that has authorithy over all admistritive functions in its Bezirk or Landkreis [Trans city and County areas]
If you have either your sport shooter liscense,or your hunting liscense[The harder one of the two but allows you to own and purchase unlimited long guns but only TWO pistols]. You can pop into any gun shop and buy over the counter what takes your fancy and go home.HOWEVER the onus is on you to register it on your liscense within 14 days.
The staff are civillians with no special firearms training,many of them are actually anti gun,but dont let their personal opinions interfere with their civil servant duties[Unlike Ireland] as civil servants over there can and are sacked for any infringements of their duties.For some of the stunts pulled over here,were it in Germany,they would be in jail along time ago.
The system works as it is set out clearly and unambigously WHAT you need to own,carry and posses a firearm with definitions of items ,etc.Unlike here where you fulfill the conditions and it is left in the hands of your local anti gun Superintendant to a personal whim on whether the gun is safe because of its "looks".
Ironic too that in NI during a virtual civil war from of 30 odd years.The amount of firearms legally liscensed for sporting or self defence never dropped or was tightned up or banned outright and was administerd byTEN civillians in the RUC using mostly card indexes and pens and paper.
Who could also tell who had what,where and when.Compared to this shambolic system down in the South then and now.
This whole system should be removed from AGS ,bar a backround and criminal check they should have no further part to play in this as it clearly obvious they cant handle it,are uttterly anti gun and paranoid about civillians owning anything more dangerous than a super soaker.Not to mind that they area political arm of the State,which NO police force should be either.
A competant civillian admin with knowledgeable people an efficent computor filing system ,clear and unambigious rules as to what you need to own a firearm of any particular type and you fulfilling the conditions should be under law an automatic SHALL ISSUE,isnt too much to ask for is it??"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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The Aussie wrote: »There is one down in Kerry...
Not to sure he is the best public representative though to be fair.
His ol man isnt too well either at the moment,so he is going to be INOP for awhile.:("If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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/sigh
I love being quoted from a private email without warning, I really do.
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/11/14/from-our-cold-dead-hands0 -
The problem is the existence of some pigheaded individuals at a senior level in AGS. We all know the horror stories of given Supers in various districts- it's been going on for years. A senior Garda should learn from court decisions and alter his decision making accordingly- but some thicks are further blessed with arrogance.
The problem is further compounded by the very poor standard of politicians here. It's all about optics, I laugh & cry when I hear Kenny prattling on about 'green shoots' as if 200 billion euro sovereign debt is sustainable long term.
Its further compounded by sensationalist & partisan news media.
I think the solution is an open letter to the Taoiseach, Minister and Commissioner in the form of a paid advertisement in a prominent national newspaper. The open letter should appeal for justice, transparency, fair treatment etc. The letter can outline some of the treatment suffered by shooters- refer to the low points. Hopefully the political sharks will circle and be seen to be concerned about low standards in high office etc. The Minister might then engage and the rabid senior elements be brought to heel.
Who should draft & publish the letter? The ad should be paid for by contributions from the various shooting bodies. The letter should be drafted by a solicitor with contributions from a politically savvy pr type. Let the solicitor take the interviews that follow. The shooting bodies should remain shtum in public. They can kill or ride each other in private, so long as they agree to act in unison.
One thing is clear. All forms of shooting are at risk here, so NOBODY suggest throwing one group to the wolves.0 -
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If their from FG or Labour or a Garda we need to e-mail, write or phone them as often as possible, dont let them say their not involved, if they're a member of the party or the Gardi they can raise the issue at a higher level.
An individual Garda... Who has nothing to do with this kind of thing? Sure Go ahead and while your at it, get yourself nicely acquainted with section 10 of the non fatal offences against the person act 1997.
This is not the time to go making rash decisions, it only serves to make you look like a nut and discredit any argument you have.0 -
Okay, first off that's not a horrible idea. If well written and not confrontational and written so that Joe Public is both informed as to the current state of affairs and why the proposed changes are just wrong, it'd be a very positive thing. If badly written or confrontational, it could sink us however, but that's not my actual criticism here.I think the solution is ...
My actual criticism is that there is no one solution here. There's no magic bullet (pardon the pun). No NGB is going to do this for you, I don't care who they are or how much they preen from a pulpit, no NGB on its own has ever effected the kind of change we now require.
The only thing that has ever - in the entire history of our sport - been able to turn around legislation before it hits, after it has been announced like this, is massive groundroots contact with TDs and local politicians. People showing up at clinics to complain and threaten to rescind their vote and to campaign for others to do the same, is the only thing that has ever been noticed by the Minister sufficiently to abandon announced plans (and even that only worked because of the proximity of an election - but it got McDowell to abandon his licence fee hike plans). Seriously, if you think one single act by one single body can stop this, please stop thinking that now.
If you want this not to happen, you, personally will have to get in touch with your local politicians.
Otherwise... well, do you remember all those people who thought the NGBs could fight off and prevent the Criminal Justice Act 2006? And the Criminal Justice Act 2009? And the ban on new centerfire pistols? And you remember all those people who said we could overturn those in court?
Yeah, it didn't work at any time in the past century. It's not going to work today. You want this not to happen? Pick up the phone to your local TD. Email him. Put pen to paper. Walk down to his or her local clinic and complain in person. That's the only way this is going to get done.0 -
Unashamedly cut&pasted off the ICABS website.:D
[The antis are useful for something once in awhile]
Now you have multiple choices for contacting your local TD via all sorts of methods,if you cant get down in person Write or comment on their Facebook or Twitter account.
There are NO EXCUSES acceptable anymore not to get in contact.
100 years ago in 1914 there was a recruitement poster for the army which said "What did you do in the war Daddy?" Dont let us be the last generation with our sons and daughters asking us "What did you do to stop the 2014 gun ban Daddy/Mummy?"
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DUBLIN SOUTH-WEST
Sean Crowe, TD
Email: Sean.Crowe@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3941
Brian Hayes, TD
Email: brian.hayes@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183567
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brian-Hayes-TD/213901058679622
Eamonn Maloney, TD
Email: Eamonn.Maloney@oireachtas.ie
Tel Office: 01-6184833
Pat Rabbitte, TD
Email: pat.rabbitte@oireachtas.ie
Constituency office - 29 - 31 Adelaide Road, Dublin 2
Tel Constituency Office 01 678 2011 / 01 618 3772
Department Office 01 678 2000 / 01 678 9807
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pat-Rabbitte-TD/137057356358931
DUBLIN WEST
Joan Burton, TD
Email: joan.burton@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dail: 01 6184006
Fax: (01) 6184175
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joan-Burton/300073646806
Joe Higgins, TD
Email: Joe.Higgins@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01-6183370
Patrick Nulty, TD
Email: patrick.nulty@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (01) 618 3133
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Patrick-Nulty/67427617480
Advice centres http://patricknulty.ie/?page_id=1013
Dr. Leo Varadkar, TD
Email: leo.varadkar@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6041062
Fax: 01-6184125
Constituency Details
37A Main Street, Ongar, Dublin 15
Telephone: 01-6403133
Fax: 01-6403155
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Leo-Varadkar-TD/178974912140818
DÚN LAOGHAIRE
Sean Barrett, TD
Email: sean.barrett@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183895
Fax: 01-6184127
Constituency Details
2-3 Rogans Court, Patrick Street, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Telephone: 01-2845333
Fax: 01-2845250
Richard Boyd Barrett, TD
Email: Richard.BoydBarrett@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01-6183449
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=574107974
Eamon Gilmore, TD
Email: eamon.gilmore@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 618 3566 To Contact the Labour Party Leader's Office.
01 4082018 & 01 408 2019 FOR CONSTITUENCY QUERIES ONLY.
Constituency Office Fax: 01 4082690
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/EamonGilmore
Mary Mitchell O'Connor, TD
Email: Mary.MitchellOConnor@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183302
Fax: 01-6184344
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001867521181
GALWAY EAST
Ciaran Cannon, TD
Email: Ciaran.Cannon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-8896510
Fax: 01-6184796
Constituency Details
King Street, Loughrea, Co. Galway
Telephone: 091-880790
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ciaran.cannon
Paul J Connaughton, TD
Email: PaulJ.Connaughton@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183032
Fax: 01-6184373
Constituency Details
Main Street, Ballinasloe, Co. Galway
Telephone: 090-9646878
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560988008
Colm Keaveney, TD
Email: Colm.Keaveney@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office 093 24070
Dail Office 01 6183821
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colm-Keaveney/122380051117671
Michael P Kitt, TD
Email: michael.kitt@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (090) 9678147
Fax: (090) 9678148
GALWAY WEST
Noel Grealish, TD
Email: noel.grealish@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
Unit 14 Briarhill Business Park, Briarhill, Galway
Seán Kyne, TD
Email: Sean.Kyne@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184426
Constituency Details
Telephone: 087-6137372
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SeanKyneTD
Derek Nolan, TD
Email: Derek.Nolan@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office (091) 561006
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dereknolan.galway
Éamon Ó Cuív, TD
Email: eamon.ocuiv@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
Kirwin House
Flood St, Galway
Phone: (091) 562846
Fax: (091) 562844
Brian Walsh, TD
Email: Brian.Walsh@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184236
Constituency Details
114 Bohermore, Galway
Telephone: 091-513051
Fax: 091-513050
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000643948346
KERRY NORTH LIMERICK WEST
Jimmy Deenihan, TD
Email: jdeenihan@eircom.net
Telephone: 01-6313804
Constituency Details
Finuge, Lixnaw, Co. Kerry
Telephone: 068-40154
Fax: 068-40383
Martin Ferris, TD
Email: martin.ferris@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 4043
Arthur Spring, TD
Email: Arthur.Spring@oireachtas.ie
Tel Kerry Office (066) 71 25337
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/arthurjspring
KERRY SOUTH
Tom Fleming, TD
Email: Tom.Fleming@oireachtas.ie
Tel : 01-6183354
Brendan Griffin, TD
Email: Brendan.Griffin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184480
Fax: 01-6184664
Constituency Details
Castlemaine Village, Castlemaine, Co. Kerry
Telephone: 066-9795666
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=545556933
Michael Healy-Rae, TD
Email: Michael.HealyRae@oireachtas.ie
Tel : 01-6184319
KILDARE NORTH
Bernard Durkan, TD
Email: bernard.durkan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183732/01-6183191
Fax: 01-6184515
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bernard-Durkan-TD/116782611727827
Anthony Lawlor, TD
Email: Anthony.Lawlor@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183007
Constituency Details
56 South Main Street, Naas, Co. Kildare
Telephone: 045-888488
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001680805706
Catherine Murphy, TD
Email: Catherine.Murphy@oireachtas.ie
Dáil: 01 618 3099
Constituency: 01 615 6625
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/catherinemurphytd
Emmet Stagg, TD
Email: emmet.stagg@oireachtas.ie
Tel Home: 01 6272149
Dáil: 01 6183013
Fax (home): 01 6270601
Fax (Dail): 01 6184538
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/emmetstagg/clinics.html
KILDARE SOUTH
Martin Heydon, TD
Email: Martin.Heydon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183017
Fax: 01-6184323
Constituency Details
Moorefield Road, Newbridge, Co. Kildare
Telephone: 045-487624
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/martinheydonfg
Seán Ó Fearghaíl, TD
Email: sean.ofearghail@oireachtas.ie
Jack Wall, TD
Email: jack.wall@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office Tel 059 86 32874
Constituency Office Fax 059 86 33157
Dáil Tel (01) 6183571
Dáil Fax (01) 6184540
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/jackwall/clinics.html
LAOIGHIS-OFFALY
Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, TD
Email: corcorankennedy@eircom.net
Telephone: 01-6184075
Fax: 01-6184582
Constituency Details
5 The Courtyard, Emmet Street, Birr, Co. Offaly
Telephone: 057-9125825
Fax: 057-9122865
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marcella.corcorankennedy
Barry Cowen, TD
Email: barry.cowen@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office: Grand Canal House
William St, Tullamore, Co. Offaly
Tel: 057 9321976
Fax: 057 9321910
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001924079188
Charles Flanagan, TD
Email: charles.flanagan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183652
Fax: 01-6184568
Constituency Details
Lismard Court, Portlaoise, Co. Laois
Telephone: 057-8620232
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1080158510
Sean Fleming, TD
Email: sean.fleming@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 057 8732692
Fax: 057 8732922
Brian Stanley, TD
Email: Brian.Stanley@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3987
LIMERICK
Niall Collins, TD
Email: niall.collins@oireachtas.ie
Telephone - 01 6184277
Fax 01 6184183
Constituency Office:
Red House Hill, Patrickswell, Co Limerick
Tel 061 300 149. Fax: 061 307451
Mobile: 087 2749659
Clinic details http://www.niallcollinstd.ie/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000787972474
Dan Neville, TD
Email: daniel.neville@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183356
Fax: 01-6184581
Constituency Details
Main Street, Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Telephone: 069-63610
Fax: 069-63609
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1436657462
Patrick O'Donovan, TD
Email: Patrick.O'Donovan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183610
Fax: 01-6184677
Constituency Details
24 Maiden Street, Newcastle West, Co. Limerick/Main Street, Cappamore, Co. Limerick
Telephone: 069-77998/061-381868
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=579346009
LIMERICK CITY
Michael Noonan, TD
Email: michael.noonan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6764735
Fax: 01-6184504
Constituency Details
Telephone: 061-229350
Willie O'Dea, TD
Email: willie.odea@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 061-454488/454522
Fax: 061-328849
Kieran O'Donnell, TD
Email: kieran.odonnell@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183808
Fax: 01-6184199
Constituency Details
27 William Street, Limerick
Telephone: 061-204040
Fax: 061-204057
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001635598211
Jan O'Sullivan, TD
Email: jan.osullivan@oireachtas.ie
Dáil Tel 01 6183670
Dáil Fax 01 6184617
Constituency Office Tel 061 312316 Fax 061 313707
Mechanics Institute, Hartstonge Street, Limerick
LONGFORD - WESTMEATH
James Bannon, TD
Email: james.bannon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184226
Fax: 01-6184398
Constituency Details
Richmond Street, Longford
Telephone: 043-3336185
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jamesbannonTD
Nicky McFadden, TD
Email: Nicky.McFadden@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183938
Fax: 01-6184139
Constituency Office Athlone: Sean Costello Street, Athlone
Phone: (090) 64 78004
Constituency Office Mullingar: Dominick Street, Mullingar
Phone: (044) 93 90534
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NickyMcFaddenTD
Willie Penrose, TD
Email: willie.penrose@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6183734
Fax 01 6184541
Constituency Office - Convent Lane, Bishop Gate Street, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath
Tel 044 93 43987
Fax 044 93 43966
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WilliePenroseLabourParty
Robert Troy, TD
Email: Robert.Troy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (01) 6184059
Mobile: (087) 7979890
Constituency details
The Manse, Castle Street
Mullingar, Co. Westmeath
Tel: 044 9330769
Facebook: http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Robert-Troy/1596728296
LOUTH
Gerry Adams, TD
Email: gerry.adams@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6184884
Peter Fitzpatrick, TD
Email: Peter.Fitzpatrick@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183563
Fax: 01-6184514
Constituency Details
2 Court House Square, Dundalk, Co. Louth
Telephone: 042-9330100
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002024295766
Séamus Kirk, TD
Email: seamus.kirk@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (042) 9331032 or (01) 6183468
Fax: 042-9355680
Gerald Nash, TD
Email: Gerald.Nash@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6183576
Constituency Office:
Connolly Hall, Palace Street, Drogheda,Co Louth.
Tel: 041 9810811
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1044516565
Fergus O'Dowd, TD
Email: fergus.odowd@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6782024
Fax: 01-6184628
Constituency Details
Unit 1, Jameson House, Bachelor's Lane, Drogheda, Co. Louth
Telephone: 041-9842275
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fergus-ODowd-TD/109482069074958
MAYO
Dara Calleary, TD
Email: dara.calleary@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office: 19 Pearse Road, Ballina, Co. Mayo
Tel: 096 77613
Fax: 096 78510
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dara-Calleary-TD/121643426343
Enda Kenny, TD
Email: enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6194020
Fax: 01-6764048
Constituency Details
Tucker Street, Castlebar, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 094-9025600
Fax: 094-9026554
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/endakennyofficial
Michelle Mulherin, TD
Email: Michelle.Mulherin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183065
Fax: 01-6184599
Constituency Details
John Street, Ballina, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 096-77596
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Mulherin/1394704019
John O'Mahony, TD
Email: john.omahony@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183706
Fax: 01-6184595
Constituency Details
D'Alton Street, Claremorris, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 094-9373560
Fax: 094-9373379
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.omahonytd
Michael Ring, TD
Email: michael.ring@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6041034
Fax: 01-6041672
Constituency Details
Quay Street, Westport, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 098-25734/098-27012
Fax: 098-27644
MEATH EAST
Regina Doherty, TD
Email: Regina.Doherty@oireachtas.ie Telephone: 01-6183573
Fax: 01-6184524
Constituency Details
2 Main Street, Ratoath, Co. Meath
Telephone: 01-8257204
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cllr.regina.doherty
Dominic Hannigan, TD
Email: Dominic.Hannigan@oireachtas.ie
Work Address: 6 Civic Square, Ashbourne, Co. Meath
Telephone: 01 835 3871
Clinics details http://www.dominichannigan.com/clinics/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-Dominic-Hannigan/110917065610132
MEATH WEST
Ray Butler, TD
Email: Ray.Butler@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183378
Fax: 01-6184616
Constituency Details
1 St Martin's House, Finnegan's Way, Trim, Co. Meath
Telephone: 046-9486717
Damien English, TD
Email: damien.english@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184012
Fax: 01-6183430
Constituency Details
20 Watergate Street, Navan, Co. Meath
Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm.
Closed for lunch 1pm to 2pm
Telephone: 046-9071667
Fax: 046-9072225
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000056572070
Peadar Tóibín, TD
Email: Peadar.Toibin@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3518
ROSCOMMON LEITRIM SOUTH
Frank Feighan, TD
Email: frank.feighan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184289
Fax: 01-6184799
Constituency Details
Bridge Street, Boyle, Co. Roscommon
Telephone: 071-9662608
Fax: 071-9662383
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001403124521
Luke 'Ming' Flanagan, TD
Email: luke@lukemingflanagan.ie
Tel 086 368 5680
Constituency office,
Priory House, Barrack Street, Castlerea, Co. Roscommon
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Lukemingflanagan
Denis Naughten, TD
Email: denis.naughten@oireachtas.ie Tel: 01 6183545
Fax: 01 6184581
Mobile: 086 170 8800
Constituency Offices :
Abbey Street, Roscommon
Tel: 090 6627557
Mon, Tue, Thurs, Fri 10am-5pm
Monksland Business Park, Athlone, Co. Roscommon
Tel:090 6435039
Tue (by appointment), Wed 10am-5pm, Thurs 7-8pm (drop in clinic)
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000788867080
SLIGO LEITRIM NORTH
Michael Colreavy, TD
Email: Michael.Colreavy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3745
Tony McLoughlin, TD
Email: Tony.McLoughlin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183537
Fax: 01-6184503
Constituency Details
48 John Street, Sligo/Main Street, Manorhamilton, Co Leitrim (Thu/Fri only)
Telephone: 071-9110011/071-9856626
John Perry, TD
Email: john.perry@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6312243
Fax: 01-6184610
Constituency Details
Westward Town Centre, Bridge Street, Sligo
Telephone: 071-9151011/071-9189611
Fax: 071-9151119
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002028216471
TIPPERARY NORTH
Noel J Coonan, TD
Email: noel.coonan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183842
Fax: 01-6184789
Constituency Details
Bank Street, Templemore, Co. Tipperary/1 Rosemount, Roscrea, Co. Tipperary/
Pearse Street, Nenagh, Co. Tipperary
Telephone: 0504-32544/0505-31655/067-33008
Fax: 0504-56796
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/noelcoonan
Alan Kelly, TD
Email: Alan.Kelly@oireachtas.ie
Work Address: No 1 Summerhill Nenagh, Co. Tipperary
Tel: Office 067 34190
Fax: 067 34011
Department 01 670 7444
Clinics details http://www.alankelly.ie/clinics/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alankellylabour
Michael Lowry, TD
Email: michael.lowry@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 0504 22022
Fax: 0504 23349
TIPPERARY SOUTH
Tom Hayes, TD
Email: tom.hayes@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183168
Fax: 01-6184634
Constituency Details
The Green, Cashel, Co. Tipperary
Telephone: 062-62892/052-618073
Fax: 062-63595
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TomHayesTipperaryTD
Seamus Healy, TD
Email: Seamus.Healy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 052 6121883
Clinics details http://wuag.wordpress.com/deputy-seamus-healy-td/
Mattie McGrath, TD
Email: mattie.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
2 Joyce's Lane, The Quay, Clonmel, Co Tipperary
Tel: 052 6129155 / 086 8184307
Clinics details http://www.mattiemcgrath.ie/clinics.asp
WATERFORD
Paudie Coffey, TD
Email: Paudie.Coffey@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183902
Fax: 01-6184572
Constituency Details
62 Mayors Walk, Waterford
Telephone: 051-853867
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1107070069
Ciara Conway, TD
Email: Ciara.Conway@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil office 01 618 4011
Constituency Office
36 Mary Street, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford
Tel Constituency Office 058 24514
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/ciaraconway/clinics.html
John Deasy, TD
Email: john.deasy@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183596
Fax: 01-6184517
Constituency Details
83 O'Connell Street, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford
Telephone: 058-43003 Fax: 058-45315
John Halligan, TD
Email: John.Halligan@oireachtas.ie
Tel 051 - 871735
Clinics details http://www.johnhalligan.net/constituency-offices/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/johnhalliganwaterford
WEXFORD
John Browne, TD
Email: john.browne@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Details
Lower Church Street, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford
Tel: 053 92 35046 Fax: 053 92 35049
Constituency Office open Monday to Friday 10.00am - 1.00pm and 2.00pm - 4.00pm.
Brendan Howlin, TD
Email: brendan.howlin@oireachtas.ie
Tel Minister's Office (01) 631 8102
Minister's Office (01) 631 8021
Constituency Phone (053) 912 4036
Constituency Fax (053) 912 3765
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/brendanhowlin/clinics.html
Paul Kehoe, TD
Email: paul.kehoe@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6194080
Constituency Details
7 Weafer Street, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford
Telephone: 053-9243558
Fax: 053-9239562
Clinics details http://www.paulkehoe.com/?page_id=23
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1052814002
Dr. Liam Twomey, TD
Email: Liam.Twomey@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184299
Fax: 01-6184536
Constituency Details
Anne Street, Wexford
Telephone: 053-9146682
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000910306491
Mick Wallace, TD
Email: Mick.Wallace@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01 618 3287
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/wallacemick
WICKLOW
Stephen Donnelly, TD
Email: Stephen.Donnelly@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01 618 4293
Constituency Office: Church Road, Greystones
Tel: (01) 2017300
Mobile: 086 3602421
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/DonnellyforWicklow
Andrew Doyle, TD
Email: andrew.doyle@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183611
Fax: 01-6184560
Constituency Details
2a, The Lower Mall, Wicklow
Telephone: 0404-66622
Fax: 0404-66670
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AndrewDoyleTD
Anne Ferris, TD
Email: Anne.Ferris@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil office 01 6183539
Fax Dáil Office 01 6184671
Constituency Office
115 Main Street, Bray, Co Wicklow
Tel Constituency office 01 2764699
Constituency Office Fax 01 2116664
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/anneferris/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anne-Ferris/105231102881307
Simon Harris, TD
Email: Simon.Harris@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183805
Fax: 01-6184197
Constituency Details
Office Unit 4, Market Court, Main Street, Bray, Co. Wicklow
Telephone: 01-2813727
Clinics details http://www.simonharris.ie/?page_id=173
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DeputySimonHarris
Billy Godfrey, TD
Email: billy.timmins@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183384
Fax: 01-6184604
Constituency Details
Weaver Square, Baltinglass, Co Wicklow
Telephone: 059-6481016
Fax: 059-6482444
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/billy.timmins"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
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NASRPC will be holding an Information evening
for affiliated clubs and their members
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Paid advocates are polished and savvy. Shooting reps often aren't.
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NASRPC will be holding an Information evening
for affiliated clubs and their members
in the Clubhouse, Harbour House Sports Club, Co. Kildare at
7PM the evening of Monday November 17th.
There, we will explain what the Sports Coalition is, why it is different from previous attempts at unity,
why it is so important and what it is doing on behalf of all license holders.
We will also outline what it is that we want you and your members to do to aid the Coalition in its efforts.
Please make all effort to attend
Anyone wanting a lift up to this in the Limerick area...Please PM me and we can car pool this.I can take six in my jeep."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
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that's what we want, keep it going the more sent the louder we get, lets be heardLotharmike wrote: »Already done.One generic reply from Michael Noonan so far0 -
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The problem is the existence of some pigheaded individuals at a senior level in AGS. We all know the horror stories of given Supers in various districts- it's been going on for years. A senior Garda should learn from court decisions and alter his decision making accordingly- but some thicks are further blessed with arrogance.
The problem is further compounded by the very poor standard of politicians here. It's all about optics, I laugh & cry when I hear Kenny prattling on about 'green shoots' as if 200 billion euro sovereign debt is sustainable long term.
Its further compounded by sensationalist & partisan news media.
I think the solution is an open letter to the Taoiseach, Minister and Commissioner in the form of a paid advertisement in a prominent national newspaper. The open letter should appeal for justice, transparency, fair treatment etc. The letter can outline some of the treatment suffered by shooters- refer to the low points. Hopefully the political sharks will circle and be seen to be concerned about low standards in high office etc. The Minister might then engage and the rabid senior elements be brought to heel.
Who should draft & publish the letter? The ad should be paid for by contributions from the various shooting bodies. The letter should be drafted by a solicitor with contributions from a politically savvy pr type. Let the solicitor take the interviews that follow. The shooting bodies should remain shtum in public. They can kill or ride each other in private, so long as they agree to act in unison.
One thing is clear. All forms of shooting are at risk here, so NOBODY suggest throwing one group to the wolves.
This sounds like the best idea, but not alone.
I still think writing to/email TD's should be done too, but shouldnt it be an email to all TD's rather than just your local, otherwise the full weight of the message may not be gotten across, if all TD's were written by all involved, the full weight of a message might be gotten across better, dribs and drabs here and there might be easier to ignore or delete.
Along with the suggested article in a prominent national paper.
This is the first I'm reading of this, I'd be affected if what's put across is implemented, so I'm very concerned.
While I dont suggest a standard draft to send, anyone got an outline of what they are sending? I'd like mine to sound as polished as possible.
Although I might wait to see what the outcome of below is, as an NASRPC member. I know that I cant attend.http://www.nasrpc.ie/hot-news-1/informationevening-november17th
NASRPC will be holding an Information evening
for affiliated clubs and their members
in the Clubhouse, Harbour House Sports Club, Co. Kildare at
7PM the evening of Monday November 17th.
There, we will explain what the Sports Coalition is, why it is different from previous attempts at unity,
why it is so important and what it is doing on behalf of all license holders.
We will also outline what it is that we want you and your members to do to aid the Coalition in its efforts.
Please make all effort to attend0 -
Correspondence sent to Minister Noonan and Deputy Kieran O Donnell. Michael Noonan will not be running in the next election but Kieran will and he is left in no doubt my anger on this issue and repercussions for the Fine Gael party. I have spoken to an large group of family and extended family who have rowed in behind me on this issue. Sound advice from a lot of guys here. We'll do this with dignity and respect but by God also united, firm and decisive.0
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This sounds like the best idea, but not alone.
I still think writing to/email TD's should be done too, but shouldnt it be an email to all TD's rather than just your local, otherwise the full weight of the message may not be gotten across, if all TD's were written by all involved, the full weight of a message might be gotten across better, dribs and drabs here and there might be easier to ignore or delete.
Along with the suggested article in a prominent national paper.
This is the first I'm reading of this, I'd be affected if what's put across is implemented, so I'm very concerned.
While I dont suggest a standard draft to send, anyone got an outline of what they are sending? I'd like mine to sound as polished as possible.
Although I might wait to see what the outcome of below is, as an NASRPC member. I know that I cant attend.
One of my family who is not a gun sports enthusiast and has to listen to me for info made a suggestion that our national body could employ the services of a PR guru to educate "Joe Public" on the sport of Shooting and what we are all about. It has been mentioned numerous times when the public hear "guns" they don't really understand that there is also a sport in this.0 -
Let's see, for those of us who fancy a quick follow up shot a semi is going to be far cheaper than a double rifle.
If anyone is convinced that the only semi auto center fire rifles in existence are mean looking pretend assault rifles a quick look at for example the Browning and Merkel websites will kick that idea to touch fairly quickly.0 -
If I were in the same position as ye, and indeed have been, I would do exactly what gun-owners in my neck of the woods (West of West Cork
) successfully did.
1) Get a post going whereby everyone lists their local official's name and number or email.
2) Next, everyone contacts all officials and expresses their concern as a gun owner.
3) Repeat #2 every day, if you can. Otherwise, as often as you can.
Good Luck Lads! If ye post some emails, I'll send a few my own!0 -
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One of my family who is not a gun sports enthusiast and has to listen to me for info made a suggestion that our national body could employ the services of a PR guru to educate "Joe Public" on the sport of Shooting and what we are all about. It has been mentioned numerous times when the public hear "guns" they don't really understand that their is also a sport in this.
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Another resource we have looking us in the face is a smattering of clubhouses around the country.
We're better organised than we think.
In politician speak: Clubhouse = potential vote cluster (maybe I can get them a grant/they'll all vote for me).
Feeling harbour House will be packed Monday - will wander in at some stage - any politicians going to be there, does anyone know?0 -
LIFFY FISHING wrote: »Just to get a discussion going..
After reading the 64 page document from the DOJ in relation to the proposed amendment to the firearms act and legislation, & freely admitting that I own multiple firearms for hunting and target shooting..what possible reason would an individual have to licence a center fire semi automatic rifle?..
I stand corrected.... seemingly all be it not common or regularally shot there is such a competition.
They are not used in any capacity in target shooting.
You have fallen into the trap set by ASG/DoJ Public Consultation on this subject:
Many licence holders have demonstrated a good and sufficient reason to own these - some in a court of law.
We need to think outside of this box presented to us.
The time for fist-banging is gone, we need to employ opinion-formers: This is a consultation process - we know they intend to largely ignore us (c.f.; EU consultation on firearms last year with 85,000 responses, mostly from shooters who were just about 100% ignored) - so we need to come up with reasoned and reasonable arguments.
Maybe on the lines of
"We had a consultation between DoJ, AGS and shooting representatives over a period of (months/years?) only five years ago.....the first amendment since (1972?)...leading to an agreed Firearms Act Amendment/SI (insert proper names).....placing severe restrictions on firearms ownership including (thorough background checks/prohibited firearms/storage conditions/a 3 year re-application process..)....having the strictest licensing conditions in the EU by far, is a review necessary after only 5 years and why?"
I think the "why" is important - they have begun with an emotive argument (Dunblane, Norway, Sandy Hook) and we need to develop a counter-argument
Maybe something like:
"10 people were killed in a mass killing in Beijing last year involving knives - access to firearms is presently severely restricted in Ireland, including investigations into applicant's mental health blah, blah....."
"semi automatic weapons here have been restricted to 3 shots, with very few exceptions allowed in cases where applicants can demonstrate blah, blah ....."
and Spark's argument whether it is viable to legislate for something that happens in other jurisdictions
Also, if we could bring a cost into it - "AGS are already short of resources...overseeing magazine restrictions/ processing forms/ overseeing firearms surrenders.....ties up Garda already-stretched resources and budgets....or something"
Trying to flesh out some ideas in one place.
Can we stage a demonstration without being civilly disobedient? Say, we all apply at once to licence our mate's firearm?0 -
Done . Everyone on the Donegal list emailed . My brother is in the process of emailing them too . Thanks for the list grizz0
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Thing is however that every semi automatic shotgun sold in or imported into the ROI since year dot [1976 I guess] IS already restricted and SOLD out of the dealers as a three shot only.So what do they want an irish "to be sure to be sure" restricted 3shot shotgun???Which BTW is another farsical ignorance of modern guns or their modification capabilities..The mag tube on most guns is a freely available part and can be purchased or even made with no bother.It brings us back to the stupid .222 pistol mag arguement of "a ten shot mag is more dangerous,but two five shots taped end to end are less dangerous or its inconciveable anyone would do this with their Olympic style pistol if they were going on a shooting spree" logic.
More worrisome would be the classification of" Military or police shotgun"
Pretty much all "military or police shotguns" are civillian derivatives and have been so since the days of the gunslinger in the American West.Can think of at least a dozen brands off the top of my head since 1945 that have supplied police or militarys globally Again the Idontlikedelookodatnow!"clause raises its ugly head...But hey,instead of listing features or technical aspects lets go by "looks" BTW any of you who have custom grips made for your O/U like the UK Olympic trap DTL team,you'll all be nicked!! As they are protruding pistol grip stocks.Albeit costing about 2 grand each custom fitted to you,and not a cheap 90 euro plastic pistol gripped straight stocked on somones custom waterfowl or turkey shotgun.."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
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Can we stage a demonstration without being civilly disobedient? Say, we all apply at once to licence our mate's firearm?
179,000 applications over 3 years is approx. 5,000 per month being currently processed.
If they received 15- 20,000 applications in one month, as a once-off what would happen?0 -
Would certainly not do the PULSE system any good.:)
Things straining apprently with normal workload."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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Grizzly 45 wrote: »Would certainly not do the PULSE system any good.:)
Things straining apprently with normal workload.
there are 564 garda stations according to here
So an average of 5000/564 = 8.86 applications per month per station
Turning that into 45 applications in one month is a helluva lot of keyboard tapping up and down the country.
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LIFFY FISHING wrote: »Just to get a discussion going..
After reading the 64 page document from the DOJ in relation to the proposed amendment to the firearms act and legislation, & freely admitting that I own multiple firearms for hunting and target shooting..what possible reason would an individual have to licence a center fire semi automatic rifle?..
I stand corrected.... seemingly all be it not common or regularally shot there is such a competition.
They are not used in any capacity in target shooting.
To expand on the OP I have a pump action shotgun that can hold 7 in the mag and one up the spout. Restricted to 3 at the mo.
Now the reasons that come to mind as to why I would want to apply for a restricted license for this SG would be:
Mult shots at vermin I.E rats
And target shooting at the international competitions that I go to. Where they shoot shotguns in T&P1, Multi-Target, 100y & 200y.
I think I may apply for a license ASAP before they ban them.
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And target shooting at the international competitions that I go to. Where they shoot shotguns in T&P1, Multi-Target, 100y & 200y.
Yes indeed,somthing we are trying to get going here as well to justify restricted scatterguns.We need three or four more bods with restricted shotguns to orgnise a comp..Anyone else out there??:cool:"If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
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Although the idea of applying for a licence on another gun simultaneously on the one date by thousands of people has some merit it unfortunately will have most impact on the frontline lad/lassie who's got shag all to do with the carry on by grand lords of the Phoenix Park.
I for one am contacting local TD's this week and see what their take is. I'm not too hopeful about the government ones as they'll just go where the whip whacks them but the opposition ones may make a bit of hay out of this.
On a serious note, what do decent pr consultants cost ? Proper ones that is not shady snake oil merchants.0
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