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Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    I wouldn't take too much of that to heart, when you look at longer averages it's not bleak at all.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=wheat&months=120&commodity=soybeans

    Starting to climb, already reports that livestock farmers have started to de-stock to reduce feed costs. Meat prices should drop in the short term but steadily increase when the glut passes through the system. The European baking sector is dependent on North American wheat.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/us-usa-drought-idUSBRE86F1D420120720


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ShadowFox


    Earthquake Southern California 4.9 Magnitude
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/r...202921.php


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A fascinating piece about how a few warmongers can kick off a war without sanction from their political masters. It's not the federal government the conspiracy theorists need to beware of in the US, it's the top military men.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/sunk/2012/08/21/96209788-cebd-11e1-aa14-708bac2c7ee9_story.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    A fascinating piece about how a few warmongers can kick off a war without sanction from their political masters. It's not the federal government the conspiracy theorists need to beware of in the US, it's the top military men.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/sunk/2012/08/21/96209788-cebd-11e1-aa14-708bac2c7ee9_story.html


    U.S.A needs massive amounts of imported oil to power its economy now and more so into the future.
    Iran has vast oil reseves and it's only a matter of time until they find an "excuse" to go into Iran to form a U.S.A friendly goverment to obtain this oil.
    The middle East is a delicate balancing act to keep the oil wells pumping more and more oil for export,and then try to get it safely out of the region.
    Imported oil dependncy for the U.S.A is under national security.
    It not only needs oil to fuel its economy but to fuel its military.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    wolfeye wrote: »
    U.S.A needs massive amounts of imported oil to power its economy now and more so into the future.
    Iran has vast oil reseves and it's only a matter of time until they find an "excuse" to go into Iran to form a U.S.A friendly goverment to obtain this oil.
    The middle East is a delicate balancing act to keep the oil wells pumping more and more oil for export,and then try to get it safely out of the region.
    Imported oil dependncy for the U.S.A is under national security.
    It not only needs oil to fuel its economy but to fuel its military.

    Very true of course, but interestingly, becoming less so and some in the US are aiming for energy independence by 2020.

    http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    I reckon at the moment because of the economic downturn The U.S.A is consuming less oil than it would be,but when the economy takes off again the consumption of oil will go though the roof.
    Plus the U.S.A will be competing with China and india and developing countries for this oil.
    Plus canada, ,Venezula,nigeria and mexico as their economies grow they will consume more and export less.
    So oil in the persian gulf will become even more important.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Biological Hazard in Ireland on Friday, 31 August, 2012
    Portuguese men-of-war, which look like jellyfish and whose sting can cause severe pain and, in rare cases, death in humans, has been seen on beaches in Waterford and Cork, and may yet reach Kerry coasts. The Irish Water Safety organisation yesterday warned swimmers, surfers and other beach users that Portuguese men-of- war have been seen in Tramore, Ardmore, Inchydoney and Schull, and that there is a risk they may drift farther north. The invertebrate and carnivore creature is a siphonophore, which means it is made up of a colony of organisms working together. Its float is about 30cm long and 13cm wide and it has tentacles that can reach 50m in length. The stinging venom-filled nematocysts in the tentacles cause severe pain to humans, leaving whip-like red welts on the skin. A sting may lead to an allergic reaction. There can also be serious effects, including fever, shock, and interference with heart and lung function. Stings may also cause death, although this is extremely rare.

    Link: http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20120831-36402-IRL


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Agent_47


    http://www.thejournal.ie/yosemite-deadly-virus-581475-Sep2012/

    scary stuff, mouse bourne virus, stayed in one of these in 1995.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Epidemic Hazard in USA on Wednesday, 29 August, 2012
    In the first confirmed case of bubonic plague in Colorado since 2006, an Archuleta County resident has tested positive for the disease. The last human case in Archuleta County, which borders on New Mexico, was in 1998. It is believed that the person contracted the plague during a family outing in the Cimarrona Campground northwest of Pagosa Springs, but the investigation is ongoing, according to a news release from the San Juan Basin Health Department. The gender and age of the victim were not released, the paper reported. In 2006, Colorado had four cases of plague, all in La Plata County, Joe Fowler, a disease-control nurse with the San Juan Basin Health Department said. Most human cases of plague tend to occur in rural areas in two regions — northern Arizona and New Mexico and southern Colorado or in California, southern Oregon and western Nevada. One human case has been reported in New Mexico so far this year - in a 78-year-old Torrance County man who contracted the disease in May, in what state health officials called the nation’s first human plague case of the year
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20120829-36376-USA

    &

    Epidemic Hazard in Russia [Asia] on Monday, 27 August, 2012

    An anthrax outbreak in a Siberian village left one person dead and 10 others hospitalized as the Russian government declared a state of emergency in the area in a bid to prevent an epidemic. There were at least two other confirmed cases of anthrax infection in the village of Druzhba in the Altai region, reported an unidentified officials. The death was reported in a statement today by the Moscow-based Emergency Situations Ministry, which didn’t say whether it was caused by anthrax. Roads around the village have been closed off, Yevgenia Belikova, a spokeswoman for investigators in Altai. Veterinary officials killed several heads of cattle infected with anthrax and vaccinated another 187, as well as 21 horses and pigs, the Altai region’s press office said on its website. The anthrax outbreak is “under control and localized,” Deputy Governor Daniil Bessarabov said in the statement. The anthrax bacteria, known as Bacillus anthracis, occurs most commonly in cattle, sheep and goats and can be lethal to humans. The bacteria, which can cause skin infections and more severe lung infections, may survive in soil decades after an outbreak.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20120827-36337-RUS


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Here's a real nightmare for any property owners (or tenants) that is unlikely, but not impossible, to happen here in Ireland.

    http://www.pressherald.com/news/US-homes-cracking-due-to-drought-parched-soil-.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rhinocharge


    Nuclear Event in Bulgaria on Tuesday, 04 September, 2012
    A device containing a radioactive element has been stolen from a construction site in Bulgaria’s capital Sofia, announced the press center of the Interior Ministry. Sofia District Police Directorate is searching for the perpetrators. The device - a gamma flaw detector - contains a radioactive element with activity of 10 Ci. The signal about the theft was received on Monday. The crime was committed at a construction site at about 3:00 p.m. local time on Monday. The device has an entirely metal cage, its color is silver, has lead protection and an in-built radioactive source, Г-shapes handle and sizes 25/10 cm; it weighs 5 kg. Experts warn that if it is opened, there is a risk of the people around being exposed to radiation.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20120904-36442-BGR

    HAZMAT in Bolivia on Tuesday, 04 September, 2012
    A massive stash of what was believed to be uranium found in Bolivia's capital contains just 68 grams of the radioactive material, Bolivia's Interior Minister said. The quantity is too small to put people's health at risk, Carlos Romero said. "The laboratory report indicates that there is uranium, but in small amounts. An approximate calculation (shows there were) only 34 grams (one ounce) per ton, or 68 grams in the two tons" of material found, he said. An investigation is still ongoing to determine the origin and intended use of the mineral.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=HZ-20120904-36447-BOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    This is pretty interesting.

    80453462Riots-global.jpg
    Pretty simple. Black dots are the food prices, red lines are the riots. In other words, whenever the UN’s food price index, which measures the monthly change in the price of a basket of food commodities, climbs above 210, the conditions ripen for social unrest around the world. CSI doesn’t claim that any breach of 210 immediately leads to riots, obviously; just that the probability that riots will erupt grows much greater. For billions of people around the world, food comprises up to 80% of routine expenses (for rich-world people like you and I, it’s like 15%). When prices jump, people can’t afford anything else; or even food itself. And if you can’t eat—or worse, your family can’t eat—you fight.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    China sends patrol ships to disputed East China Sea islands:
    "Should the Japanese side insist on going its own way, it shall have to bear all serious consequences arising therefrom."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19553736


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    That China / Japan thing seems to be getting more and more heated.....

    China protests: Panasonic suspends some operations:
    Japanese electronics maker Panasonic has suspended some of its operations in China after anti-Japan protesters attacked two of its factories.

    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19620114


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Cardinal Richelieu


    Khannie wrote: »
    That China / Japan thing seems to be getting more and more heated.....

    China protests: Panasonic suspends some operations:



    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19620114

    The designated Japanese Ambassador to China was found dead near his home over the weekend so the conspiracy theory guys will be in overdrive.

    The Chinese Communist Party has played the nationalist card the last couple of decades so its bound to get out of control at times when they want it too. To be fair the Japanese weren't particularly nice colonial masters in China. In 1939 the second highest income for the Japanese government was the state ran drugs trade in China.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    The designated Japanese Ambassador to China was found dead near his home over the weekend so the conspiracy theory guys will be in overdrive.

    The Chinese Communist Party has played the nationalist card the last couple of decades so its bound to get out of control at times when they want it too. To be fair the Japanese weren't particularly nice colonial masters in China. In 1939 the second highest income for the Japanese government was the state ran drugs trade in China.
    I don't know how much of a conspiracy theory is needed, China's really taking the gloves off in the South China sea, they were pushing around the Filipinos earlier this month. Still are, as far as I know.

    It looks like the People's Republic is getting ready to start heaving some of its considerable weight around.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    It looks like the People's Republic is getting ready to start heaving some of its considerable weight around.

    Militarily they're still not a match for the west. Japan would be a bad first target if they did want to engage in expansionism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Khannie wrote: »
    Militarily they're still not a match for the west. Japan would be a bad first target if they did want to engage in expansionism.
    Might be brinkmanship though, the US doesn't want an all out war with its major trading partner over a few rocks. My guess is they're going to push it as far as they can to see when the US starts pushing back.

    Besides Japan isn't the first target, just one of several places they are making their presence felt. I can see them starting shooting at less important countries to make their point initially. Their maritime claims are outrageous and very much intended specifically to cause trouble. Maybe they've come up with a use for all those unmarriagable young men after all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭bonniebede


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Might be brinkmanship though, the US doesn't want an all out war with its major trading partner over a few rocks. My guess is they're going to push it as far as they can to see when the US starts pushing back.

    Besides Japan isn't the first target, just one of several places they are making their presence felt. I can see them starting shooting at less important countries to make their point initially. Their maritime claims are outrageous and very much intended specifically to cause trouble. Maybe they've come up with a use for all those unmarriagable young men after all.

    Demographically that is their real problem - single young men. Only can do two things with them, marry them off and civilise them, or send them to war.;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,432 ✭✭✭touts


    There is a leadership battle going on at the moment. And by all accounts its a very dirty battle between those who want to further embrace change and capitalism and those who want to return to a more traditional communist approach. Both sides want to show they are the best option for a strong respected China and win the support of the powerful military.

    With all that going on Japan picked a stupid time to go poking them in the eye.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,428 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Is Japan poking them?? I thought the Japanese were trying to avoid hassle, which is why Tokyo bought out the private owners... The Chinese responded with jingoism to apeal to their population... And not much changes really... Or maybe something else is going on ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    Might be the real story is they are trying to make sure the population doesn't get any ideas during the transition period by making them angry at the Japanese instead of the party.

    Seems to be working if that is the case, I was talking to a Chinese lady of my acquaintance yesterday and she was carrying on about how those islands were Chinese back in 211 BC. She did not appreciate me asking why the Chinese had ratified the 1994 200 mile EEZ treaty so, I can tell you. Some people just have no sense of humour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭eth0


    Doc Ruby wrote: »
    Some people just have no sense of humour.
    A fairly common thing in that area, they're probably shocked that people here openly call FG and FF a shower of wasters while there its more do as your told and respect the Party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Deerhound


    A chairman of one of the Japanese banks was being interviewed on TV today, at the end of the interview he was asked why he thought China were being so pushy now. He thinks it's because the Japanese government at the moment are very weak but there is going to be an election next year and and the "Nationalist" party will walk into power. They will not give up the islands under any circumstances. The Chinese are trying to force the present government to hand over the islands before the others take over.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The search for a missing radioactive rod in Texas enters its second week, despite efforts from energy services giant Halliburton, local law enforcement, and the Texas National Guard to find it. The 7-inch stainless steel cylinder contains radioactive Americium-241/Beryllium and was reported missing on September 11th, after a three-man Halliburton survey crew drove from a site near Pecos to a well south of Odessa. The rod — used to identify deposits of oil and natural gas by being lowered into a well — was discovered missing after the team arrived and found the device's container unlocked. This is the only time such a device has been "lost in the public domain" in the past five years, according to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokesperson.

    The full story is here http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/18/3351490/halliburton-national-guard-lost-radioactive-rod-texas


  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭bonniebede


    eth0 wrote: »
    A fairly common thing in that area, they're probably shocked that people here openly call FG and FF a shower of wasters while there its more do as your told and respect the Party.

    well, i think mao had anyone that incompetent beheaded. makes you mind your manners, that sort of thing.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    New "Sars-like" virus found:
    A new respiratory illness similar to the Sars virus that spread globally in 2002 and killed hundreds of people has been identified in a man who is being treated in Britain.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19698335


  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭evilmonkee


    Khannie wrote: »
    New "Sars-like" virus found

    5 people hospitalized with suspected cases in Denmark.
    worrying thing is that only one of the family had been to Saudi Arabia ... shows possible human - human transmission.


    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jQQZdgrEC1Xm2detaMEDH9WsWtOw?docId=CNG.92f8e882d0cac04a70810207085ab1e2.8d1


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Worth knowing that:
    However only surgical masks and N95 masks - designed to block airborne particles - will work. These masks protect the face from droplets coughed out by infected people, which the team believes is the primary mode of spread. Seto says droplets are probably the main mode of transmission of SARS outside hospitals as well. He says the findings confirmed SARS is not spread through the air - if so only the N95 masks would have been protective.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3692-face-masks-are-best-protection-against-sars.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭wolfeye


    whooping cough.
    So far this year 10 infants under the age of three months have died as a result of the infectious disease - including nine in England and one in northern Ireland.
    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/pregnant-women-in-uk-warned-to-get-vaccinated-against-whooping-cough-after-10-baby-deaths-3243382.html


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