David Icke - "Don't take the H1N1/Swine Flu vaccine"

cahill31 · 14-07-2009 2:20pm #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkL8KbEW6P4

Please keep all replies on topic. ie. don't post anything reptillian related. Thank you.

Ostrom · 14-07-2009 2:26pm

A non-medic reptilian bloodline conspiracy theorist? You want to gloss over the horsesh*t this man has come out with over the years?

King Mob · 14-07-2009 3:03pm

Would people seriously take medical advice from David Icke?

Ostrom · 14-07-2009 3:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

Would people seriously take medical advice from David Icke?

You know they would, unfortunately

General Zod · 14-07-2009 3:16pm

Makes a change from him complaining about flouridated water or mindcontrol using dentist amalgam in fillings.

6th · 14-07-2009 3:39pm

Lads either discuss the topic/video or dont comment. From this point I will delete off topic posts and infract/ban the people that make them.

Watch the video or dont comment.

Ostrom · 14-07-2009 3:53pm

6th wrote: »

Lads either discuss the topic/video or dont comment. From this point I will delete off topic posts and infract/ban the people that make them.

Watch the video or dont comment.

I did watch the video, there was nothing approaching valid evidence in it; his intellectual history is worth mentioning for context. If someone makes as bold a statement as 'dont take the swine flu vaccine', you expect at the very least some sort of competence in the field, demonstration of reading/critique, or sound analysis. What else is there to comment on?

From the video:

'...pouring total s***e into a still-emerging immune system'.....

The man cites youtube as a 'source' for further research (5.25)

It is not a 'conspiracy theory', he has not demonstrated any systematic observation from which to infer underlying cause, nor the competence to express his assumptions on why this is so

King Mob · 14-07-2009 5:05pm

Yep, watched the video.
The man obviously has no idea how the immune system or vaccines work.

He is spreading bad information.
No one with any sense should take his advice.

Martyr · 14-07-2009 8:02pm

so will you be taking the vaccine, King Mob?

King Mob · 14-07-2009 8:06pm

Martyr wrote: »

so will you be taking the vaccine, King Mob?

I honestly don't know if I'll be arsed.
I don't bother with the yearly ones.

Why does it matter?
Does it make David Icke somehow less ignorant of the facts?

Martyr · 14-07-2009 8:47pm

i was just curious, if you get swine flu, would you take tamiflu? - i know you've answered that now.

King Mob · 14-07-2009 8:56pm

Martyr wrote: »

i was just curious, if you get swine flu, would you take tamiflu? - i know you've answered that now.

No, I would go to a doctor and follow his advice and probably not listen to the anti science nonsense that's floating around out there about vaccines and tamiflu.

The exact anti science nonsense David Icke is spewing.

Martyr · 14-07-2009 10:47pm

well, ok then if the doctor says "take this King Mob, its tamiflu" will you take it then?

samson09 · 14-07-2009 10:49pm

Martyr wrote: »

well, ok then if the doctor says "take this King Mob, its tamiflu" will you take it then?

:D:D

lol, as they say

samson09 · 14-07-2009 10:52pm

Lads, get back on topic, need I say more? (Rhetorical by the way)

King Mob · 14-07-2009 11:01pm

Martyr wrote: »

well, ok then if the doctor says "take this King Mob, its tamiflu" will you take it then?

Yes if he thinks it's the best course.

This is because I trust my doctor more the random nonsense on the internet.

Again why does it matter?

Does it make David Icke any less ill informed?

Martyr · 14-07-2009 11:14pm

i was just curious whether you would take it or not.
as you said, vaccines contain a small dose of the virus already.

constance tench · 14-07-2009 11:38pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yes if he thinks it's the best course.

This is because I trust my doctor more the random nonsense on the internet.

Again why does it matter?

Does it make David Icke any less ill informed?

of course, always trust the doctor, but bear in mind that golf trips are provided to them by the pharmaceutical industry..

King Mob · 14-07-2009 11:43pm

constance tench wrote: »

of course, always trust the doctor, but bear in mind that golf trips are provided to them by the pharmaceutical industry..

Ah so all doctors are in on it then?

Course there's no reason for David Icke to lie.
Not like he's playing to a market and selling books and dvds and lecture.
Does it out of the kindness of his heart.

constance tench · 14-07-2009 11:49pm

i'm not here promoting D.I, it's something people should be more aware of..

King Mob · 14-07-2009 11:56pm

constance tench wrote: »

i'm not here promoting D.I, it's something people should be more aware of..

That all doctors are out to get them?
That all doctors are bought by the evil corporations?

And how exactly do you know this?

Martyr · 14-07-2009 11:57pm

King Mob wrote:

Course there's no reason for David Icke to lie.
Not like he's playing to a market and selling books and dvds and lecture.
Does it out of the kindness of his heart.

The same could be said of pharmaceutical companies.
They're not exactly giving vaccines away for nothing, are they?
Not developing them out of the kindness of their hearts either...

its big business as usual.

meglome · 14-07-2009 11:58pm

constance tench wrote: »

i'm not here promoting D.I, it's something people should be more aware of..

Aware of what? Has David Icke any medical expertise? If Bozo the clown told us to be careful of vaccines should we be aware of it, is it important?

King Mob · 15-07-2009 12:03am

Martyr wrote: »

The same could be said of pharmaceutical companies.
They're not exactly giving vaccines away for nothing, are they?
Not developing them out of the kindness of their hearts either...

its big business as usual.

And David Icke is giving his books away?

The difference is actual doctors are backed up by verifable science.
David Icke is backed up by pure crazy.

Martyr · 15-07-2009 12:07am

meglome wrote:

Aware of what?

Aware that not all doctors can be trusted and are indeed in the pockets of pharamceutical companies.

CT didn't at any point defend David Icke, just making a point that King Mob shouldn't just rely on the word of a doctor.

King Mob wrote:

And David Icke is giving his books away?

Pharmaceutical companies are giving vaccines away?

King Mob wrote:

The difference is actual doctors are backed up by verifable science.
David Icke is backed up by pure crazy.

I'm not disputing David Ickes is crazy, i'm saying that just because your doctor tells you to take a vaccine, doesn't necessarily mean its gonna be good for you.

That's all, point made.

constance tench · 15-07-2009 12:08am

King Mob wrote: »

That all doctors are out to get them?
That all doctors are bought by the evil corporations?

And how exactly do you know this?

how do i know?..it's been reported on quite a number of times, do you want the links?

meglome wrote: »

Aware of what? Has David Icke any medical expertise? If Bozo the clown told us to be careful of vaccines should we be aware of it, is it important?

i think you misunderstood me, i was talking about the golfing trips provided to doctors by the pharmaceutical industry

King Mob · 15-07-2009 12:10am

Martyr wrote: »

Aware that not all doctors can be trusted and are indeed in the pockets of pharamceutical companies.

He didn't at any point defend David Icke, he's simply making a point that King Mob shouldn't just rely on the word of his doctor.

Pharmaceutical companies are giving vaccines away?

I'm not disputing David Ickes is crazy, i'm saying that just because your doctor tells you to take a vaccine, doesn't necessarily mean its gonna be good for you.

That's all, point made.

So we shouldn't trust our Doctors because someone makes a baseless claim. But we should believe random unscientific crap on the internet?

Martyr · 15-07-2009 12:12am

King Mob wrote:

So we shouldn't trust our Doctors because someone makes a baseless claim.But we should believe random unscientific crap on the internet?

Nobody said anything like that.

Did you not watch the CBS 60 minutes video from 1976? i guess that is random unscientific crap too?

King Mob · 15-07-2009 12:13am

constance tench wrote: »

how do i know?..it's been reported on quite a number of times, do you want the links?

I don't know are they for reputable sites with verifiable evidence?
Maybe you should start with the scientific evidence you have on which you're basing your assertion that vaccines are dangerous.

constance tench wrote: »

i think you misunderstood me, i was talking about the golfing trips provided to doctors by the pharmaceutical industry

So therefore all Doctors are in on it?

King Mob · 15-07-2009 12:13am

Martyr wrote: »

Nobody said anything like that.

Did you not watch the CBS 60 minutes video from 1976? i guess that is random unscientific crap too?

So then why shouldn't we trust doctors?

constance tench · 15-07-2009 12:15am

King Mob wrote: »

So we shouldn't trust our Doctors because someone makes a baseless claim. But we should believe random unscientific crap on the internet?

it's not crap from the internet and
it's not a baseless claim, it has been reported on in a number of national news papers..

David Icke - "Don't take the H1N1/Swine Flu vaccine"

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