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Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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  • #5822
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    She actually is! Hence, too many friends to keep up with as it is!

    Well I suppose at least she was honest.


  • #5823
    Roquentin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


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  • #5824
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Roquentin wrote: »
    61faa7ff932ff1caedff864b1a2ffdcb.jpg

    Nicely said, R.


  • #5825
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    How do you find mixing with folks is for you Scrim?

    It's okay if I'm expecting it. Hate randomly running into people though, makes my throat close up and I start panicking, especially if I can see them coming for a while. Don't really like going on nights out though, which often kills off friendships.


  • #5826
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    It's okay if I'm expecting it. Hate randomly running into people though, makes my throat close up and I start panicking, especially if I can see them coming for a while. Don't really like going on nights out though, which often kills off friendships.

    That last sentence sent a shiver down my spine. When I got really anxious years back, the anxiety caused me to recede from whatever social life I had. That was almost like the final nail in the coffin.

    This shouldn't be us.


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  • #5827
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Called in sick to work, couldnt face another night in there. Last night was very tough so my energy and resilience is spent. I get what your saying about getting on with people at work but that being as far as it goes. Thats definitely being my experience in the work place, which is fine for me really because i dont like socialising. So i keep people at arms length.


  • #5828
    Frigga_92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Frigga_92




    You are entitled to private appointments with your GP to discuss private matters. What do you think will prevent you from seeing your GP in private? Can you get there on your own? Are you comfortable with your GP?
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • #5829
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Frigga_92 wrote: »
    You are entitled to private appointments with your GP to discuss private matters. What do you think will prevent you from seeing your GP in private? Can you get there on your own? Are you comfortable with your GP?

    While a 15 year old can certainly see the doctor themselves, I don't think confidentiality is guaranteed at 15. Certainly there are huge risk factors for a doctor when it comes to prescribing psychiatric medications for a teenager and it's just my opinion, but I'd be very uncomfortable knowing that a person who is (and I mean this in the most inoffensive way) barely more than a child was taking antidepressants or anxiolitics without any adult keeping a very close eye on them.

    Idontlikefig, I think you're in a really tough position. Please don't let what I've written above deter you from seeking help. Do go to your GP and discuss things with him/her. If you've already tried talking to your mum I guess you don't mind her actually knowing what you're going through? So even if the doctor did talk to her about something they might be considering for your treatment you'd be okay with that? Is there any other adult you trust who you could talk to about your options? A friendly teacher? Guidance counsellor?


  • #5830
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker




    Does your GP practice have any walk in hours? Saves the hassle of stressing about making an appointment.

    If there's no walk in times, just ring and say "Hi, I'd like to make an appointment to see the doctor". If they say they need a parent or guardian to make the appointment just say "okay, I'll get someone to call you back". Then you've an option - get a parent to make the appointment, or go to the school counsellor and get them to make the appointment. I can't see a doctor refusing to see a 15 year old whose school guidance counsellor is trying to get them to a doctor. You'd probably be okay to just make the appointment yourself though!
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • #5831
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    I think the best thing to do is to make an appointment with your doctor. Then you can discuss the situation with him/her. I find doctors to be understanding and I doubt your GP is any different. You sound like you need to talk to someone about this and I think your doctor is a good place to start. Sometimes people can be dismissive of mental health issues. Because they can't see it they think it's not important or that you are exaggerating how you feel. Maybe this how your Mom feels. My own mom was similar but her attitude has changed completely after I was diagnosed with depression.


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  • #5832
    GeneralC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭GeneralC


    I cycled into my psychologist today, had a panic attack right before it in the bathroom, and continued for around 20-30 mins into the appointment. He sensed something was up, and we did some breathing exercises, which helped shift my focus. We have made a plan now and he will see me again next week. I must admit, I do miss the appointments, I was in a much better place when I was attending him.

    I think I have to just accept the person I am. Yes, I have anxiety. Yes, I have this, that and the other. I will never be anxiety free, and I have to accept that. I will have no quality of life until I accept this and do something about it.

    I think we're all looking for some magic formula to help us. The fact is, I personally don't think we're ever going to be anxiety free, and that's ok, if we can control the anxiety and don't let it overwhelm our lives to the point we're paralyzed.


  • #5833
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    GeneralC wrote: »
    I cycled into my psychologist today, had a panic attack right before it in the bathroom, and continued for around 20-30 mins into the appointment. He sensed something was up, and we did some breathing exercises, which helped shift my focus. We have made a plan now and he will see me again next week. I must admit, I do miss the appointments, I was in a much better place when I was attending him.

    I think I have to just accept the person I am. Yes, I have anxiety. Yes, I have this, that and the other. I will never be anxiety free, and I have to accept that. I will have no quality of life until I accept this and do something about it.

    I think we're all looking for some magic formula to help us. The fact is, I personally don't think we're ever going to be anxiety free, and that's ok, if we can control the anxiety and let it overwhelm our lives to the point we're paralyzed.

    Am glad you got through the appointment there GC. It must have been tough to go through at the time.

    Acceptance of the anxiety sounds good. It could actually be a very healthy approach to life with this.


  • #5834
    Roquentin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    anxiety is rooted in the unconscious. it is instinctive. if you were standing on the edge of a cliff you would get nervous unconsciously because of the perceived danger. what happens is this flight or fight response gets mixed up in everyday activity, as in you feel anxious in situations you really shouldnt. but it is coming from the unconscious. to change one has to train their unconscious to respond differently.


  • #5835
    GeneralC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭GeneralC


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7ySGgAFAAo

    I had it explained today in a scientific manner from one of Ireland's leading psychologists how important it is to breathe. Start with 6 minutes a day. You can do this any way you want, but I am trying to do 6 x 1min reps throughout the day.

    Start with the basics first.


  • #5836
    Frigga_92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Frigga_92


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    While a 15 year old can certainly see the doctor themselves, I don't think confidentiality is guaranteed at 15. Certainly there are huge risk factors for a doctor when it comes to prescribing psychiatric medications for a teenager and it's just my opinion, but I'd be very uncomfortable knowing that a person who is (and I mean this in the most inoffensive way) barely more than a child was taking antidepressants or anxiolitics without any adult keeping a very close eye on them.

    Idontlikefig, I think you're in a really tough position. Please don't let what I've written above deter you from seeking help. Do go to your GP and discuss things with him/her. If you've already tried talking to your mum I guess you don't mind her actually knowing what you're going through? So even if the doctor did talk to her about something they might be considering for your treatment you'd be okay with that? Is there any other adult you trust who you could talk to about your options? A friendly teacher? Guidance counsellor?

    I wasn't talking about prescriptions, just chats with the GP.


  • #5837
    GeneralC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭GeneralC


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Am glad you got through the appointment there GC. It must have been tough to go through at the time.

    Acceptance of the anxiety sounds good. It could actually be a very healthy approach to life with this.

    I think acceptance is a vital part in all this to be honest Hugo.


  • #5838
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Roquentin wrote: »
    anxiety is rooted in the unconscious. it is instinctive. if you were standing on the edge of a cliff you would get nervous unconsciously because of the perceived danger. what happens is this flight or fight response gets mixed up in everyday activity, as in you feel anxious in situations you really shouldnt. but it is coming from the unconscious. to change one has to train their unconscious to respond differently.

    That's why I went to a few hypnotherapists, the idea behind hypnotherapy is altering your unconscious mind while your in a hypnotised so I thought it might help. Alas it didn't but I agree with what you said.


  • #5839
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    GeneralC wrote: »
    I think acceptance is a vital part in all this to be honest Hugo.

    It can be a bitter pill to swallow unfortunately. I think you're right though.


  • #5840
    GeneralC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 754 ✭✭✭GeneralC


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    It can be a bitter pill to swallow unfortunately. I think you're right though.

    It's a start in the right direction. If we can accept it maybe the anxiety won't be as crippling. We need to work on things like breathing, thought process.


  • #5841
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    GeneralC wrote: »
    It's a start in the right direction. If we can accept it maybe the anxiety won't be as crippling. We need to work on things like breathing, thought process.

    I think you have the right attitude. We have to accept the person we are and the stage where we are at in life at the moment. It will pass. Maybe it will happen again in our lives but we can try to overcome it. Changing thought processes is really important. That's how cbt works. Changing your automatic thoughts from negative to more balanced thoughts.


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  • #5842
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Yesterday I was talking to my mum about how my sleeping tablets aren't working as well lately. I'm only getting 5 hours out of them and I'm already at max dose, any more and I'm into overdose territory. Anyway, she mentioned that it's probably the exams, I agreed. Then she proceeds to tell me that it's just a temporary blip, I'm not "the type" to have an actual problem. Hadn't the heart to tell her I haven't felt like myself since I was 15... She meant well, but I just felt like it was so... Trivialized. Hard to accept anxiety as a part of you when the people close to you try to convince you otherwise. Maybe she's right though?!


  • #5843
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Yesterday I was talking to my mum about how my sleeping tablets aren't working as well lately. I'm only getting 5 hours out of them and I'm already at max dose, any more and I'm into overdose territory. Anyway, she mentioned that it's probably the exams, I agreed. Then she proceeds to tell me that it's just a temporary blip, I'm not "the type" to have an actual problem. Hadn't the heart to tell her I haven't felt like myself since I was 15... She meant well, but I just felt like it was so... Trivialized. Hard to accept anxiety as a part of you when the people close to you try to convince you otherwise. Maybe she's right though?!

    You know yourself better than anyone. Your Mom may have good intentions but only you truly know what you are going through. Sometimes people say things to make themselves feel better. My mom is similar. She can't understand how my siblings turned out ok whereas I have had a lot of problems of my life. Who are the types to get anxiety. It can happen anyone and for reasons we don't even understand.


  • #5844
    Frigga_92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭Frigga_92


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    Yesterday I was talking to my mum about how my sleeping tablets aren't working as well lately. I'm only getting 5 hours out of them and I'm already at max dose, any more and I'm into overdose territory. Anyway, she mentioned that it's probably the exams, I agreed. Then she proceeds to tell me that it's just a temporary blip, I'm not "the type" to have an actual problem. Hadn't the heart to tell her I haven't felt like myself since I was 15... She meant well, but I just felt like it was so... Trivialized. Hard to accept anxiety as a part of you when the people close to you try to convince you otherwise. Maybe she's right though?!
    greenfrogs wrote: »
    You know yourself better than anyone. Your Mom may have good intentions but only you truly know what you are going through. Sometimes people say things to make themselves feel better. My mom is similar. She can't understand how my siblings turned out ok whereas I have had a lot of problems of my life. Who are the types to get anxiety. It can happen anyone and for reasons we don't even understand.

    What greenfrogs has said is very true, some people want to fix it with some words to feel like they are helping or to ease their own conscience.


  • #5845
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Anyone find themselves getting really sad far too easily after reading something sad in a book or movie?


  • #5846
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Anyone find themselves getting really sad far too easily after reading something sad in a book or movie?

    If I listen to certain songs Hugo I'm a blubbering mess. But normally I find it hard to shed a tear.


  • #5847
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    mg1982 wrote: »
    If I listen to certain songs Hugo I'm a blubbering mess. But normally I find it hard to shed a tear.

    Is it like for folks with depression that their emotions are hightened greatly? Like even sometimes when happy one can be giddy almost. Equally, the same can be said for anger, jealousy, fear and sadness.


  • #5848
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Is it like for folks with depression that their emotions are hightened greatly? Like even sometimes when happy one can be giddy almost. Equally, the same can be said for anger, jealousy, fear and sadness.

    Ya I find my emotions can be extreme at times like something goes wrong and I descend into suicidal thoughts and with repressed anger too I find it very hard to express it. I think us guys are bad at expressing our emotions and how we feel.


  • #5849
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    mg1982 wrote: »
    Ya I find my emotions can be extreme at times like something goes wrong and I descend into suicidal thoughts and with repressed anger too I find it very hard to express it. I think us guys are bad at expressing our emotions and how we feel.

    I agree with you so much there man. I think we can bottle it up and then it gets too much.


  • #5850
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    I am the exact same with my moods. I have bpd traits. Bpd is also known as emotionally unstable which makes a lot of sense. My moods can be very intense. I can get extremely angry within seconds.


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  • #5851
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    I am the exact same with my moods. I have bpd traits. Bpd is also known as emotionally unstable which makes a lot of sense. My moods can be very intense. I can get extremely angry within seconds.

    I can relate too GF. I can be very similar at times.


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