IMBD Parental advisory

Orion · 21-11-2014 4:45pm #1

Just looking at the parental advisory of Horns and this bemused me to say the least. Under the Sex and Nudity Category there are certain things you'd expect parents may want to be aware of
e.g. people having sex, boobs visible, thrusting, male genitals etc.

But the last two on the list are:

Two men talk about their hidden gay interest towards each other, later they are seen kissing.

A woman is beaten and raped.

So firstly two men talking about their hidden gay interest and later kissing is worthy of an advisory for parents. But more worryingly a woman being beaten and raped is considered on a par with two men discussing being gay. Most worryingly is that whoever wrote this considers rape to be about sex instead of violence (which is a separate category).

Is there where we're at nowadays? That rape is considered as important as protecting our children from the plague of gay? I know it's very American-centric on IMDB but with the influence America has - particularly through TV - it's still worrying that these two would be considered even remotely comparable.

21-11-2014 4:48pm

Where are you getting that they are considered on the same level? For posterity this is the full list:

There are multiple scenes where people bluntly make sexual references, some involving gay tendencies and graphic dialog.

A woman asks a man if he is horny.

A woman is seen dancing seductively

A man is seen urinating on a shrine.

A woman very briefly tells a man how much she enjoys black cock.

We briefly see two people having sex; both are naked, we see her right breast, he is thrusting and she is responding

A teenage boy is seen looking at a pornographic magazine, we see the photos of the naked women.

A man and woman start kissing while the man pulls off her dress, we see her breasts. The man thrusts her.

A man wakes up to find a woman thrusting into a man sitting on a chair. We briefly see her breasts.

We briefly see a man's genitals for a few seconds.

Two men talk about their hidden gay interest towards each other, later they are seen kissing.

A woman is beaten and raped.

Orion · 21-11-2014 4:50pm

Because both are listed as parental advisory under the Sex and Nudity category. I don't consider the former worthy of note and the latter should be in the Violence and Gore category.

Would you consider that a woman being beaten and raped should be in the same category as the other items?

Manach · 21-11-2014 4:52pm

Given the international nature of the industry, homosexuality is still seen as both a moral wrong and taboo subject in a numerous countries under their social traditions. For these countries to be subjected to the PC value free interpretation of that behaviour betokens a somewhat arrogant cultural arrogance that assumes the liberal mindset is the global one.

Orion · 21-11-2014 4:53pm

My biggest concern as I said in the OP is having a violent rape scene considered to be a sex crime. It's not. It's a violent act against a woman. Organisations like the RCC have been trying for years to change people's mindsets around this.

Peregrinus · 24-11-2014 3:36am

I think parental advisories are supplied by the film production company; IMDB does not write its own. And I also think the convention is that [possibly] offensive scenes are mentioned in chronological order, i.e. in the order in which they occur in the film, rather than in order of [perceived] gravity.

Un Croissant · 24-11-2014 8:47am

If a child witnessed a rape scene in a film what are they going to think it is? Sex, or violence? More so sex I'd imagine. Sure, we know what a going on but it's obvious why it is where it is.

AndonHandon · 08-12-2014 2:32am

Rape is more sex than violence.

Peregrinus · 08-12-2014 2:45am

Well, in this particular scene, according to the advisory, a woman is beaten and raped. Whether the violent elements in this scene are likely to be more disturbing than the sexual elements is not a question that we can meaningfully answer without actually watching the scene. But it's generally true in Hollywood - and indeed in TV-land - that we are much more tolerant of showing violence than we are of showing sex; we see probably a hundred violent deaths on screen for every act of sexual intercourse. You can quibble - obviously - with the scale of values that this attitude implies, but in listing this particular scene under "sex" rather than "violence", the IMDB parental advisory is conforming to a very well-established set of priorities.

As for the men "talking about their gay interest and kissing", you could see this as homophobic but, actually, that's not established. "A woman asks a man if he is horny" is listed, as is a boy "looking at a pornographic magazine". Clearly every reference to sex or sexuality of any kind is getting listed, so it's hard to make the case that homosexuality is being singled out as uniquely shocking.

Straylight · 08-12-2014 2:48am

Peregrinus wrote: »

I think parental advisories are supplied by the film production company; IMDB does not write its own. And I also think the convention is that [possibly] offensive scenes are mentioned in chronological order, i.e. in the order in which they occur in the film, rather than in order of [perceived] gravity.

Actually anyone can add one, here's the IMDB page with instructions and guidelines. From reading a few in the past, I get the impression that the only people who write them are people who would be very conservative and most likely religious. Even the most minor swear word or someone taking a swig of beer is noted on some guides, stuff that most people wouldn't even bat an eyelid over. It's also common to see every instance of bad language counted, e.g. 3 f-words, 6 s-words, etc. I have visions of these people sitting in darkened rooms taking note of everything that may be offensive throughout a film, and not being able to tell you what it was about at the end because they were so busy disapproving.

neilthefunkeone · 08-12-2014 2:54am

Not to take away from what's more serious but after seeing the movie a few weeks ago I think the list is as these scenes appear in the movie.. So someone has just listed them as they are appearing through the movie..

As said it was a few weeks ago so would have to check again to be sure..

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