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Left-Turn-on-Red for Cyclists

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    The cyclists would still have to give way to pedestrians crossing.
    LMAO ... cyclists, giving way to pedestrians ... that's a good one ... oh wait, you were actually serious about this?
    What about the pedestrians who carry on walking across a road against on coming traffic when they have a red man.
    They're a problem too.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,345 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    SeanW wrote: »
    LMAO ... cyclists, giving way to pedestrians ... that's a good one ... oh wait, you were actually serious about this?

    They're a problem too.

    Yes and of course all motorists are angels, right?

    Just take a look at this asshole:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0901/724915-darron-gibson/
    Republic of Ireland football international Darron Gibson has pleaded guilty to crashing his sports car into a cyclist while drink-driving and then fleeing the scene.

    The reality is there are asshole cyclists and asshole pedestrians and asshole motorists. There are even assholes who are all three!

    But the reality the majority of motorists/cyclists/pedestrians aren't assholes, they are just honest, law abiding citizens who are just trying to make it home to their loved ones safely.

    So Sean, can't we have less of the anti-cyclist/pedestrian/motorist nonsense and instead focus on improving things for all people in a positive way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,218 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    SeanW wrote: »
    LMAO ... cyclists, giving way to pedestrians ... that's a good one ... oh wait, you were actually serious about this?

    They're a problem too.
    Constructive posts only please.

    You know, less noise, more signal. Agreeing or disagreeing with people directly. Discussing their points. Being nice to people.

    Moderator


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,460 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    So, would anyone be interested if I created an online petition about this? Specifically it would be asking the government to investigate the possibility of trialing some new rules, rather than saying "we should have this" etc. In other words, I'd love to see an expert analysis of whether such a rule would be workable and beneficial. I'm also considering sending a letter/email to my local councilor (Mr Cuffe) about it as he's been interested in alternative approaches to cycling rules in the past (he's been promoting the contra-flow cycle street in Phibsboro recently). Just weighing up whether enough people think it is a decent idea to push for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 DrMike


    Just to remind any of you who seek change in traffic law regulations to do it through Cyclist.ie - The Irish Cycling Advocacy Network.

    Cyclist.ie got the mandatory-use regulation repealed in December 2013. We also legalised cyclists going up on the inside of a queue of vehicles at a junction.

    We are urging government to bring in a 1.5 m safe overtaking distance and to introduce 30 km/h speed limits in all residential areas and estates.

    We meet with Ministers for Transport and officials as well as with Road Safety Authority CEO and officials.

    Our member group Dublin Cycling Campaign is hosting a public meeting next Monday evening at 20:00 h in The Central Hotel devoted to the 30 km/h speed limit issue. All are welcome.

    Please do go to our web-site for on-line membership details.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭cython


    DrMike wrote: »
    Just to remind any of you who seek change in traffic law regulations to do it through Cyclist.ie - The Irish Cycling Advocacy Network.

    Cyclist.ie got the mandatory-use regulation repealed in December 2013. We also legalised cyclists going up on the inside of a queue of vehicles at a junction.

    We are urging government to bring in a 1.5 m safe overtaking distance and to introduce 30 km/h speed limits in all residential areas and estates.

    We meet with Ministers for Transport and officials as well as with Road Safety Authority CEO and officials.

    Our member group Dublin Cycling Campaign is hosting a public meeting next Monday evening at 20:00 h in The Central Hotel devoted to the 30 km/h speed limit issue. All are welcome.

    Please do go to our web-site for on-line membership details.

    Does the bolded refer to the mandatory use of cycle lanes where provided? I you are going to claim that then at least get the dates right, please. It was repealed in October 2012, a full 14 months before the date you have suggested. If you mean some other mandatory use regulation, I would be interested to hear about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Tarabuses


    DrMike wrote: »
    Just to remind any of you who seek change in traffic law regulations to do it through Cyclist.ie - The Irish Cycling Advocacy Network.

    Cyclist.ie got the mandatory-use regulation repealed in December 2013. We also legalised cyclists going up on the inside of a queue of vehicles at a junction.

    We are urging government to bring in a 1.5 m safe overtaking distance and to introduce 30 km/h speed limits in all residential areas and estates.

    We meet with Ministers for Transport and officials as well as with Road Safety Authority CEO and officials.

    Our member group Dublin Cycling Campaign is hosting a public meeting next Monday evening at 20:00 h in The Central Hotel devoted to the 30 km/h speed limit issue. All are welcome.

    Please do go to our web-site for on-line membership details.

    A speed limit that will not apply to cyclists?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Tarabuses wrote: »
    A speed limit that will not apply to cyclists?

    Very few people walking or people cycling are hit by cyclists travelling faster than 30kmh anyway, let alone seriously injured or killed.
    There are a number of collisions with vehicles which speed limits apply to, which do injure or kill people walking or people cycling...


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