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RTE Announce FTA Saorsat service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    This guy will be really interested in this after all he was claiming RTE going fta months ago:D
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    cgarvey wrote: »
    Missed it too.. but add in the current 4 and RTE News Now. There was mention of a HD channel as well (which seemed to be RTE HD; showing live GAA in HD, etc.). I don't know if the 9 includes the yet to be approved Irish Film Channel and Oireachtas TV. The minister has to make a call on some of that (not sure how much; but they've referred to that a few times now).

    They listed the nine channels to the senators. I presume RTE1,RTE2,TV3,TG4 and RTE News, that's 5, what are the other four they listed ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    RTE News Now not doing a great job on continuity. The feed is also on the standard Oireachtas feeds page as well (Committee Room 1)


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    There's a one dish rule? Although could be largely irrelevant (for Saorsat) by the sounds of it here on the east coast...

    Am I right in thinking that existing FTA recievers will work, albeit with possible limitations due to no Mheg5? Do any current freesat recievers handle diseqc switches? If they do, and they all allow the addition of nonfreesat services, is this a possible "one box one remote" solution?

    1/ There is a one dish rule. But it's possible to do 13E and 28E on one dish
    2/ Sky boxes don't do Diseqc. FTA boxes do. Some Freesat do.
    3/ Only HD receivers will work. It will be DVB-S2, regular FTA is only DVB-s


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Weren't there discussions with UK channels such as BBC,ITV etc. to be carried on Irish DTT? That would make up the 9.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    BBC will NOT be on the public service DTT (the first MUX) at launch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Dogs dinner is the phase that always springs to mind. None of them would fill you with any confidence, Bob Collins is a Soviet State joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    zerks wrote: »
    Weren't there discussions with UK channels such as BBC,ITV etc. to be carried on Irish DTT? That would make up the 9.

    They listed the nine channels. Did anybody see the bit where they did this ? Curiosity is killing me ! We can speculate all we like, but this was from the " horses" mouth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭slegs


    Watty, can standard satellite receivers receive Ka feeds or is a special receiver needed


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Cheers watty, knew most of that, but it hadn't occured to me to look for the diseqc functionality on a freesat box until this thread though. So a freesat HD receiver that'll work a diseqc switch should give UK channels and RTE on the same box (leaving aside number of dish issues) when soarsat launches.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭slegs


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Cheers watty, knew most of that, but it hadn't occured to me to look for the diseqc functionality on a freesat box until this thread though. So a freesat HD receiver that'll work a diseqc switch should give UK channels and RTE on the same box (leaving aside number of dish issues) when soarsat launches.

    Note though that RTE channels would only be receiveable in non freesat mode which negates alot of the advantages


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    slegs wrote: »
    Watty, can standard satellite receivers receive Ka feeds or is a special receiver needed

    Yes they can but if you use a KA band lnb its all down converts to the same freq as KU anyway if the right local oscillator is used.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    You need DVB-S2, i.e. any HD receiver, at least. It MAY need a different receiver to get the whole band if they use more than 2GHz

    Needs a different LNB. ka Band :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Are we sure its KA band from 13 east or is there a possibility of KA band from another orbital position?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The proposed 13E Kasat (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) is only one with spot beams and capacity.

    23.5E has Ka + Ku now and not suitable as beam too large.

    Avanti's (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) Hylass is Ka, but larger and fewer spots.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    watty wrote: »
    The proposed 13E Kasat (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) is only one with spot beams and capacity.

    23.5E has Ka + Ku now and not suitable as beam too large.

    Avanti's (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) Hylass is Ka, but larger and fewer spots.

    Irish TV will be fta through an outdoor tv aerial only not satellite
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0714/dtt.html

    this thread should be moved or deleted


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Ok so he said spot beams using KA band but he did not mention a particular satellite, is that correct?

    Sorry but I came late to the broadcast

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    ftakeith wrote: »
    Irish TV will be fta through an outdoor tv aerial only not satellite
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0714/dtt.html

    this thread should be moved or deleted


    Think you need to read the thread again and the piece you linked to

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    slegs wrote: »
    Note though that RTE channels would only be receiveable in non freesat mode which negates alot of the advantages
    I thought you could add non freesat to the channel list? But must admit I haven't tried (but will tonight!).


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I thought you could add non freesat to the channel list? But must admit I haven't tried (but will tonight!).

    You can but what slegs is saying is you lose the advantage of the programme guide and other features.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Tony wrote: »
    You can but what slegs is saying is you lose the advantage of the programme guide and other features.
    Fair enough, so the nine channels would be the same as a FTA box, but at least you'd have the epg for the freesat channels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    watty wrote: »
    The proposed 13E Kasat (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) is only one with spot beams and capacity.

    23.5E has Ka + Ku now and not suitable as beam too large.

    Avanti's (launch Q3 or Q4 2010) Hylass is Ka, but larger and fewer spots.

    http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/daily-satellite-broadcast-industry-news/164253-bunch-new-satellites.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Fair enough, so the nine channels would be the same as a FTA box, but at least you'd have the epg for the freesat channels.

    Yes if it pans out that way, it would most likely have to be a box with disecq switching for two lnbs or a dual band lnb depending on what orbital position is used.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    STB wrote: »

    Thanks for the link, I find this part interesting "Three of the new spacecraft, ASTRA 2E, ASTRA 2F and ASTRA 2G, will serve to deliver next generation broadcast, VSAT and broadband services in Europe and Africa, and will carry Ku-and Ka-band payloads at 28.2 degrees East."

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    ftakeith wrote: »
    this thread should be moved or deleted

    Would you show a small bit of respect to the posters who have spent time divulging and explaining the valuable (and accurate) information in this thread, by at least reading the damn thing before spouting rubbish?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Tony wrote: »
    Ok so he said spot beams using KA band but he did not mention a particular satellite, is that correct?

    Correct. The only mention to specific satellites was to mention Astra as a wideband satellite example (which they couldn't use, because of the bean width/coverage/rights issues). Ka was mentioned a few times, as was the "spot" and "beam" that would be "exclusive to Ireland". No satellite names, or when it would be launched. (The satellite I mean; SaorSat TV to be launched in Q2 2011).


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Thanks , appreciate the clarification.


    cgarvey wrote: »
    Correct. The only mention to specific satellites was to mention Astra as a wideband satellite example (which they couldn't use, because of the bean width/coverage/rights issues). Ka was mentioned a few times, as was the "spot" and "beam" that would be "exclusive to Ireland". No satellite names, or when it would be launched. (The satellite I mean; SaorSat TV to be launched in Q2 2011).

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Tony wrote: »
    Thanks for the link, I find this part interesting "Three of the new spacecraft, ASTRA 2E, ASTRA 2F and ASTRA 2G, will serve to deliver next generation broadcast, VSAT and broadband services in Europe and Africa, and will carry Ku-and Ka-band payloads at 28.2 degrees East."

    No doubt prompting questions like does the ferguson Arviva combo box pick up the new spacecraft broadcasts or do I need a special dish for that!

    Wont be long before its all spacecrafts, and the satellites become a thing of the past a bit like that UHT milk Ted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    STB wrote: »
    The new satellites, to be designated ASTRA 2E, ASTRA 2F, ASTRA 2G and ASTRA 5B, will allow the release of the existing satellites at two orbital positions (28.2 and 31.5 degrees East) and add new capacity as well as fleet deployment flexibility for the SES group over the coming years. The satellites are scheduled for launch in several steps between 2012 and 2014. The design life of each satellite is 15 years.
    Don't fit 2011 time scale.
    The only viable Ka Spot for Irish TV in 2011 I know off is a successful 13E kasat launch.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    watty wrote: »
    Don't fit 2011 time scale.
    The only viable Ka Spot for Irish TV in 2011 I know off is a successful 13E kasat launch.

    Thanks Watty, is there a launch date set for this?

    I've asked some guys in the press to try find out what satellite they (RTE) have in mind (if they themselves know)

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