The Walking Dead Season 5 (WILL contain spoilers)

It was a pretty good episode, the Abraham backstory was interesting. Hope Eugene isn't hurt too bad, feel sorry for him to be honest

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

liked it, you cant have every episode ala the termites....well you could for us here, but not the plebs!

on a seperate note, i am more and more convinced eugene (the scientist) is nothing more that a gamer from his moms basement....maybe a conspiracy/gamer lol

Well called!

Glen: You just...know stuff?

Brilliant.

I quite like Eugine, but he mightn't be so smart if he has frontal lobe damage from that wound on his head. A smarter man might not have finished his confession by looking at the biggest meanest guy you've duped for the longest and saying 'I am smarter than you'. I thought he was going to get shot in the face to be honest.


And yes, it was hard to see but it was thousands of walkers.

Must watch this episode again. Either I missed something or it was totally pointless, apart from the no cure thing. I mean, he could have told the truth without the need of a separate episode for themselves.

Again on Glenn and Maggie. True survivors, happy couple since season two !

I had a few issues with this episode, my least favourite of S05 so far, but I liked the few bits Glenn had to do/say. More Glenn please!

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

i suspect abraham killed them for the tins of food and with the tins without any real provocation, hence her fear.

I think they said on the Talking Dead that while Abraham was looking for supplies, the others (who were neighbours and friends pre-apocalypse) raped the wife and daughter.

As for why she took the kids and fled, I don't know. Terrified of a side of Abraham she hadn't seen before, maybe.

Is Rick local though? Didn't he have to travel to Atlanta in season one to find his family?

firstly sorry for the long post.

Honestly i can see why you would stay localish. i always got the impression they were around 100 to 150 miles from Atlanta at a max and that would make sense to me. Their main focus is survival, safety, food and supplies.

Firstly stay with what you know or are at least familiar with. why pick another state where you know very little about on towns and more importantly citizen counts, unfortunately now zombie counts? there is a lot of this hinted at in the series (e.g. Abraham bumping into the herd by the farm when they were in the fire truck, they didnt know about it, they smelt it) at least that's the way i understood it. In the series, they had detailed local maps and were tracking herds (around the time looking for Sophie) and the herds were limiting their movement, but they knew the surroundings or were familiar with them. When Merle and Daryl left the group they knew the river locations as they had hunted there before. Also i think travelling at any speed is tough if not impossible. you keep running into blockages on the roads and the last thing you want is to try and tread your way through a monster motorway pileup only to be caught in the middle with car bound zombies calling herds from miles around and no way out and no clear fields of fire, even if you have enough ammunition. so they stick to the back roads but even then fuel is a limiter. i can see your main issue is to survive, very little else would even register -- it would all be about needs not wants. if i look at it like, would i feel the need to goto Dublin a year after a Z disaster...er, nope. what will you find except more Z's and the added complication of nutty survivors and getting stuck. Best to stay away but yet, not too far because all of the needs of a city are on the outskirts generally. Lots and lots of smallish towns that have the same supplies but with considerably less risk and its easy to get away.

one of the issues i always had was why would Rick not ask about how it started so they can fill the story line in but in reality would you care? That is me wanting the back story and also it happened so fast what really would anyone know. In reality i think here is your day. you just spent 12 hours of daylight smashing skulls and getting covered in gore, smelling rotten meat all day, sitting in it in your car, sneaking, avoiding anyone or anything, looking for clean water (a dwindling resource) , looking for anything to eat, avoiding any survivors, looking for fuel, you are hungry bordering on starving, thirsty bordering on death, exhausted, so exhausted, and so fecking pissed off and then you cant sleep because the zombies never sleep. Same every day, day in, day out. You are filthy and feel it (and thats not just a first world problem , its a health issue), you are sick all the time, think constant cold, flu's, suffering from a lack of vitamins, you have just regressed hundreds of years and are now experiencing why people didnt travel then. its not only that travel was difficult, why would you bother? i can get what i need here the rest has too many unknowns. Also the absolute last thing you would want over a meal with your friends (oh yes, you just lost another who never came home or someone who came back had a small bite (he swears it was a dog) and you might need to dispatch him) is a fireside chat about zombies and how it started. in fact you would want to talk about anything but zombies. Maybe you eat your meagre food supply again the constant smell of dead and rotten meat, its dark, the food tastes off but you decide to risk it, someone else is now badly sick, what do you do, you now have to watch them like a hawk in case they die. (always was amazed they didnt force people to sleep with a leather patch over their mouth or a pervy ball gag at night in case they turn but i digress). you bite down and feel pain, reach in and pull one of your teeth out (vitamin deficiency) also there is the fear that some zombie followed your car in a rough direction and is now heading your way picking up their mates as they go and will find you ala the farm. it might be summer and you know, just know, come winter, your group is in deep sh1t, you wont be able to go far for food, limited daylight and you barely have enough now in summer with fresh food from the country (think berries, animals etc). you are constantly on edge, constant adrenaline rushes (not good for your health), fights, shootings, people who just decide they have had enough. you would have to be on constant guard -- and thats from your friends. now you might use some of those issues above as an argument to move.

Why goto another state? its just the same except now you have absolutely no knowledge about your surroundings and where the main herds are. its just more risk you absolutely dont want to take, you do that every day by going out. As for not knowing the prison, yes that was always a bit weak IMHO but then again if you asked me where for example power plants were in Kildare or Meath or Wexford or military bases (other then the Curragh) i would not have a fecking clue. Now i would have expected Rick to know there was a prison there or thereabouts or Daryl or Merle since they no doubt visited it or had friends there but i digress. perhaps the simple things are lost because of the constant pressure, until, literally they appear in front of you, like the prison.

so for me it makes some sense. stick with what you know and where to goto to get away from Z. why move, they you just have to do the same, except now you dont know where you are going. whats over the next hill? another herd? a road block? cannibals?, dictatorship (ala north korea), rapists, murderers or even worse? So best to not bother, it just rather basic risk assessments, food, fuel, water and possibly safety is here, no sense in risking loosing all that by moving.

They and by correlation, you, really have entered a world where literally the edge of your maps should be marked with 'dere be dragons' or pictures of the edge of the world where you fall off. its just far far too risky. i really can see the only reason ala the series why you would goto 'somewhere' (in their case DC) is because it offers something you absolutely need, namely, safety, food security and the a way to get back to the old days (remember Eugene said there were supplies for years and it was safe and a cure). that is an illusion but a powerful one. You would want to believe anything and i mean anything, (think Jim Jones religious nuts curing the Z's) but it would be what people would strive for and i think its actually whats driving the police in the hospital. they are expending huge resources on living in a dream world (pressed clothes, neat and clean), the leader even exercises on a treadmill (real first world issues) rather than go out and get fit and see the world for what it is. Thats why she is clinging onto the past and yet the horrible truth is actually shown by the rapist guy...thats what the world is now, brutal and primal and cruel. Its one of the reasons i love TWD, its not just a series of skull cracking, yes there is a lot of that but the most dangerous people are the living and the nightmares they bring. what other tv series would show an absolutely abhorrent disgusting rapist and have him representing the world as it is after the apocalypse ? to be fair that was a risky story not just for worldwide audiences but for US audiences. kinda surprised there was not more web rage about it to be honest.

anyways just my opinion, which probably shows why i would not survive!! LOL

TL;DR: why bother just more Z's except now you are lost.

ps: just think stay in your town or meet the people from this zombie board!! LOL lets be honest we are not the most stable bunch here!!! more like to crack your skull open first...also there is a few here who i suspect are in the Gareth league..YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!