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you will need a car

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    i'd live in that bus even without the ZA

    zomdesigns.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    The van yes.


    The bus no. Too easily toppled by marauding gangs or zombie swarm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    The van yes.


    The bus no. Too easily toppled by marauding gangs or zombie swarm.

    Have you seen how hard it is to topple over a double decker bus? The UK regs are that the bus has return upright from a 28 degree tilt.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilt_test_(vehicle_safety_test)

    In the United Kingdom, double-decker buses have to:

    be capable of leaning, fully laden on top, at an angle of 28 deg without toppling over before they are allowed on the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    The van yes.


    The bus no. Too easily toppled by marauding gangs or zombie swarm.

    Nah, has to be the Stalwart.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    That even seems resonably priced.

    The bus or van is probably the best vehicle for the job. A long wheel base high roof van would probably be the most ideal. The bus or van is going to be able to handle all the extra weight. I don't think cars would hold up to well to all that extra weight. They might do just fine but these kind of modifications are going to put pressure on everything from the engine to the suspension meaning that any of those things could fail in the heat of the moment when you need them most.

    The bus would be well able to deal with the weight but will cause problem due to it's size, it could end up getting stuck, again not a huge issue most the time, but getting stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time could mean your end.

    The big van is somewhere in the middle, it's designed to carry extra weight and it's designed to do big millage.

    The biggest problem with all modern vehicles is they're not easy to service. If things go wrong you'll need all the right tools, they're not really designed with roadside repairs in mind.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 22,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I always wonder why no one uses bikes in zombie situations. Ok, there's not much direct protection, but you can travel huge distances, cover almost any kind terrain, and never have to worry about fuel.

    That Royal Mail van looks pretty handy too though :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Kiith wrote: »
    I always wonder why no one uses bikes in zombie situations. Ok, there's not much direct protection, but you can travel huge distances, cover almost any kind terrain, and never have to worry about fuel.

    That Royal Mail van looks pretty handy too though :)

    Plenty of room on the bus for a bike or two.

    The bus seems to be missing a hatch in the roof. Handy for escape and for firing down on attacking Zombies.

    A door to shut off the top deck from the lower deck would also be handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Those things would be handy enough to sort out if ya had a bus.

    Maybe one of those newer coaches would be a better base vehicle


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    ScumLord wrote: »
    That even seems resonably priced.

    The bus or van is probably the best vehicle for the job. A long wheel base high roof van would probably be the most ideal. The bus or van is going to be able to handle all the extra weight. I don't think cars would hold up to well to all that extra weight. They might do just fine but these kind of modifications are going to put pressure on everything from the engine to the suspension meaning that any of those things could fail in the heat of the moment when you need them most.

    The bus would be well able to deal with the weight but will cause problem due to it's size, it could end up getting stuck, again not a huge issue most the time, but getting stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time could mean your end.

    The big van is somewhere in the middle, it's designed to carry extra weight and it's designed to do big millage.

    The bus will have to watch out for any low bridges.

    The van and the bus will both be knackered if routes are blocked with abondoned vehicles or road blocks. When it comes to off road - the stolly wins :)
    The biggest problem with all modern vehicles is they're not easy to service. If things go wrong you'll need all the right tools, they're not really designed with roadside repairs in mind.
    Stolly again - its all last century "Elephant Engineering".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Yeah, Stolly wins as a blank canvas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭BigDuffman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    BigDuffman wrote: »
    Fueling that beast will be an issue.

    Yeah but it has a bigger problem :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Yeah but it has a bigger problem :)

    low bridges?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    low bridges?

    Not so much. The six-wheel drive is permanent, so on tarmac roads it tends to wind up the transmission. This led to them being low-loadered to where they would be used.

    Another solution is to disconnect two of the prop shafts.

    Still not quite the hot wheels they first appeared :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    was thinking about this, how hard would it be to re engineer the system with a new multi ratio Gearbox and transfer case?

    maybe even a newer more efficient engine whilst we're at it.

    but even taking the load off the steer wheels would make a massive difference to how it runs, I presume its 3 independent axels as opposed to a rear bogey system


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    Best thing is to raid an army base for vehicles. Irish army basically have bugger all when it comes to tanks but an APC or IFV would be flat the best option. In every aspect except fuel. Can be easily modified for z protection and are of course military vehicles. Bulletproof, kinda mine resistant, easily enough to hold against any mine an Irish raider could come up with, and besides, a HMG is always handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    Actually, I'm wrong. You don't need a car! You need a boat. Go over to spike island and nick a destroyer or something. Even better clear out the island and dig in. It's a military base, plenty of supplies weapons and ammo. Besides, boat just sail away and anybody trying to follow you gets a 76 to the face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Best thing is to raid an army base for vehicles. Irish army basically have bugger all when it comes to tanks but an APC or IFV would be flat the best option. In every aspect except fuel. Can be easily modified for z protection and are of course military vehicles. Bulletproof, kinda mine resistant, easily enough to hold against any mine an Irish raider could come up with, and besides, a HMG is always handy.

    Maintenance on anything tracked would be huge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    Maintenance on anything tracked would be huge.

    Provided it needs it, it will likely break down less.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Provided it needs it, it will likely break down less.
    Especially when you don't know how to make it do anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Especially when you don't know how to make it do anything.

    That's not the vehicles fault, and surely it would be worth learning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    That's not the vehicles fault, and surely it would be worth learning

    That's three counts against the vehicle before the getgo.

    • Knowledge
    • Tools
    • Spareparts

    Tracks are going to need some sort of maintenance every 200 miles or so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    That's three counts against the vehicle before the getgo.

    • Knowledge
    • Tools
    • Spareparts

    Tracks are going to need some sort of maintenance every 200 miles or so.

    Yes, but it's bulletproof, also mine resistant and depending on the vehicle sealed from biological and radioactive threats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Yes, but it's bulletproof, also mine resistant and depending on the vehicle sealed from biological and radioactive threats.

    And if it can't move because it lost a track, because you ran out of lynch widgets (these may or may not be necessary), then what?

    Those NBC systems need power to operate. More fuel to find and more maintenance to carry out.

    Its nice, but in the medium to long term, the lack of spare parts and fuel would defeat it. IMHO of course :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    That's not the vehicles fault, and surely it would be worth learning
    It would, but there might not be anyone left to teach you. It may not be all that difficult to get going but the first time something goes wrong you're screwed.
    Yes, but it's bulletproof, also mine resistant and depending on the vehicle sealed from biological and radioactive threats.
    Handy, but your unlikely to come across to many mines in Ireland and unless you've got a shelter to pull into that also has biological and radioactive protection it won't do you much good.

    Military vehicles are not in the same league as civilian vehicles. They have a completely different design brief. They are designed to work within a military structure and not so much designed to work individually on their own. Most are horribly uncomfortable so would be difficult to live with on a daily basis. They won't use off the shelf parts a lot of the time, they are easy to fix, if you know what you're doing but will often require specialised equipment to deal with the large weights.


    If you did get a tank, it would probably be best to figure out the basics of making it move and fire and then locking it up in a shed as a backup, assume it's only going to work once and when it breaks down you won't be able to fix it. So it's an emergency deterrent rather than a daily driver.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Well, if you find yourself down my way after a Zombie outbreak, expect Mines/IED's

    Part of my defensive plan is to create a cordon along the land side of the peninsula a few hundred meters wide with fences, ditches, pungee traps, mines, barbed wire... and anything else i can lay my paws on.

    I will now be adding Tank Traps to that list


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    Well, if you find yourself down my way after a Zombie outbreak, expect Mines/IED's

    Part of my defensive plan is to create a cordon along the land side of the peninsula a few hundred meters wide with fences, ditches, pungee traps, mines, barbed wire... and anything else i can lay my paws on.
    I can see a flaw with this plan. If your traps work and are effective, won't you basically end up surrounded by zombies?


  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭TheWarChicken


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I can see a flaw with this plan. If your traps work and are effective, won't you basically end up surrounded by zombies?

    At least he won't be with the zombies.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Well the isthmus is manageable and it still leaves us with a decent tract of land, with teh Atlantic on 3 sides.


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