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Pedobear and other child porn innuendos.

  • 06-12-2010 12:54am
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    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    In your endo
    Happy now?

    Why the **** is this crap allowed on public forums on boards?

    As you can see above, the word fuck is censored, but for some reason it's ok to allow pictures alluding to sexual abuse of children.
    Before anyone starts, I'm not trying to get words uncensored, but using this as an example. Christ, the crap you have to go through to prevent the pedants from picking at your posts.

    There was a post in the YLYL thread in cool vids... the other day.
    It had the regulation and oh so funny pedobear pic involving an infant, but it also had a picture of a toddler with the word "Buttsecks?" above her.

    I do understand that humour is subjective, and that what is funny to some may not be funny to others, but is boards really comfortable with people openly mocking child sex abuse?
    That's what pedobear and all related images are doing.
    Not only that, but they are implying that the sexual molestation of children is somehow acceptable and humourous.

    I cannot understand why these images, which originated from a site known to regularly show pictures of children being abused are allowed to appear on this site.

    Yes, I did report it, and yes to all the other obvious feedback questions.
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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    I was surprised that picture wasn't moved to Nein 11 actually. It's hard to judge AH (and its sub-forums) by the rules of the Humour Forum though.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,031 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Ooops. Meant to delete that when it was reported but obviously never did. Deleted it now. The buttsecks things was a bit too far (did anyone else think overall premise of the pic was a bit stupid, the pics didn't seem to match up with the words of the song, anywho this is besides the point). Pedobear is fine in my book. It's a joke and stupid internet meme but it's fairly harmless. While it did originate on 4chan, I don't see that as any reason to ban anything, plenty of other memes started there (keyboard cat, lolcats etc.).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,569 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    It is in no way "alluding to sexual abuse of children"

    It's a stupid meme, that has blown up this week because of the stupid Facebook Picture changes.

    It will pass like all other memes...

    I assume your talking about AH when you mention 'boards' because I don't see too much across other forum


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I was surprised that picture wasn't moved to Nein 11 actually. It's hard to judge AH (and its sub-forums) by the rules of the Humour Forum though.
    To be honest, I'm not comfortable with jokes about child abuse anywhere on this site, but I do understand that some people do find it amusing, and they have their private forums for that crap.

    In saying that, I'm also bothered by those with pedobear as avatars.
    That's sitewide.

    Cue the chuckleheads changing their custom avatars to take the piss out of this post, and then crying in PI when their kid is buggered by uncle John.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Ooops. Meant to delete that when it was reported but obviously never did. Deleted it now. The buttsecks things was a bit too far (did anyone else think overall premise of the pic was a bit stupid, the pics didn't seem to match up with the words of the song, anywho this is besides the point).
    Thank you.
    Pedobear is fine in my book. It's a joke and stupid internet meme but it's fairly harmless. While it did originate on 4chan, I don't see that as any reason to ban anything, plenty of other memes started there (keyboard cat, lolcats etc.).
    I don't agree, but I'm too tired to argue that now.
    Anyway, see above.

    Tallon wrote: »
    It is in no way "alluding to sexual abuse of children"

    It's a stupid meme, that has blown up this week because of the stupid Facebook Picture changes.

    It will pass like all other memes...

    I assume your talking about AH when you mention 'boards' because I don't see too much across other forum
    Again, see above.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,569 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Terry wrote: »
    Cue the chuckleheads changing their custom avatars to take the piss out of this post, and then crying in PI when their kid is buggered by uncle John.

    What is your problem? Since your opening sentance you have given out at least 4 times about what you think people are going to say and or do in this thread.

    Please just make your argument and nothing more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭The Raven.


    Terry wrote: »
    I do understand that humour is subjective, and that what is funny to some may not be funny to others, but is boards really comfortable with people openly mocking child sex abuse?
    That's what pedobear and all related images are doing.
    Not only that, but they are implying that the sexual molestation of children is somehow acceptable and humourous.

    I cannot understand why these images, which originated from a site known to regularly show pictures of children being abused are allowed to appear on this site.

    I have to agree with Terry on this one. I cannot understand how this is acceptable on Boards.ie. I find it offensive to make fun of child abuse, which is what the hideous bear symbolizes. How can it possibly be described as harmless?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Tallon wrote: »
    What is your problem? Since your opening sentance you have given out at least 4 times about what you think people are going to say and or do in this thread.

    Please just make your argument and nothing more
    Will do. And I'll get back to this in the morni...

    Wait.
    What?
    Who?

    Here's a meme you may understand;
    Pro tip: Stop trying so hard.

    When you're an Admin, or a mod of whatever forum I'm bitching and moaning about, then I'll consider listening to you. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, you're just the kid who used to live around the corner from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,569 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    If you don't want to interact with a 'kid' like me and only mods and admins then post this in HD

    Oh, and stop being a dick


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,031 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    The Raven. wrote: »
    I have to agree with Terry on this one. I cannot understand how this is acceptable on Boards.ie. I find it offensive to make fun of child abuse, which is what the hideous bear symbolizes. How can it possibly be described as harmless?

    As far as I know, pedobear hasn't leapt off the web page and raped an actual child. When he does I'll start considering it harmful. It doesn't condone child abuse, it doesn't encourage child abuse and it doesn't make people more likely to abuse children, hence why I view it as harmless or at least relatively speaking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Of course child abuse isn't funny. Either is rape, but people still make jokes about Larry Murphy. Where exactly do you draw the line?

    I don't think a week goes by on boards where I don't read a joke about priests, alterboys, blah blah blah. Terry you've been on here 6 years so I'm sure you've seen a lot more of that than I have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,714 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Terry wrote: »
    When you're an Admin, or a mod of whatever forum I'm bitching and moaning about, then I'll consider listening to you. Until then, as far as I'm concerned, you're just the kid who used to live around the corner from me.

    If its only Mods and Admins opinions that matter, why the fúck would anyone listen to you, after all your just a kid around the corner like the rest of us now.

    Grow up!


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,780 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    A little civility would go a long way, folks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,116 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Is it too late to reference the semi-nude photo of yourself that is still floating around After Hours somewheres? A public forum and a pubic photo in public (allegedly) no less for a charity that supported children.

    So I am a bit surprised and forgive me that this thread is coming from you, Terry, as if out of the blue. You had another thread recently where you wanted to instigate the same annual tradition for the 3rd year in a row. My point being what exactly would you determine is The Line when it comes to Boards' public forums?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I hate to actually have to devise rules around this type of thing because it's so randomly subjective. Personally I can't help finding Pedobear funny but in general I find most jokes about sexual abuse not to be at all. As there seems to be little rhyme or reason to this for me, I'm loath to advocate banning the stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,688 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Pedobear is actually used to mock pedos and is not a mascot for them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Try explaining pedobear to someone who has never heard of it and doesn't use the internet. It is pretty sick in fairness.
    It makes a joke of a very serious issue, particularly relevant in our country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    It is pretty sick in fairness.
    It makes a joke of a very serious issue, particularly relevant in our country.

    I didn't see the link, but yea Child porn should be removed. But I don't think you fully understand what pedobear is.Here is a good write up on it.

    http://www.urlesque.com/2009/11/06/pedobear/


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,031 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Try explaining pedobear to someone who has never heard of it and doesn't use the internet.

    Try explaining lolcats, keyboard cat, that ffffffffuuuuuuuu guy, forever alone thing etc. to someone who doesn't use the internet and see what happens. No doubt they won't get it and won't see how it's funny. Halloween last year, I dressed up as towelie from south park. My mum couldn't understand why I was walking around in a towel for halloween no matter how much I tried to explain it to her. So should we ban all these things as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Hobbes wrote: »
    Pedobear is actually used to mock pedos and is not a mascot for them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedobear
    Yeah, I mean... it's all about interpretation I suppose, but paedophilia jokes usually seem to be an attack on child abusers, not a belittling of the children themselves. I just don't think finding a joke like that funny = finding child abuse funny. I certainly don't think it = advocating/normalising child abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Hobbes wrote: »
    I didn't see the link, but yea Child porn should be removed. But I don't think you fully understand what pedobear is.Here is a good write up on it.

    http://www.urlesque.com/2009/11/06/pedobear/
    Jayzus I know what pedobear is, the premise is a little fcuked up though.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ Crosby Wooden Steamroller


    I'm a little surprised by this thread especially considering who the op is. I think that most people would be far more offended by the infamous pic of the op than they would by pedobear, a character that outside internet forum boards is relatively unknown.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,683 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Some genius post something that couldn't be even generously described as joke and you want to ban the use of pedobear on boards?

    It was my understanding that it was created to mock people that other people thought might be attempting to get pics of children on a message board. Not as an honourary badge for people who molested children.

    If it was drunk-driver bear or stabby bear would we be having this discussion?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Yea, that whole pedobear child rape thing needs to be stamped out.

    Clearly



    Bottom line,

    Pedobear ≠ pedophilia
    Pedobear ≠ finding the rape of a child funny.


    Im alot of things but im not a fcuking animal, but i do reserve the right to hold an abstract sence of humour.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,846 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Try explaining pedobear to someone who has never heard of it and doesn't use the internet. It is pretty sick in fairness.

    I tried that once in a church. Didn't go down very well.

    There was context, it wasn't just random.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,734 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Terry - I agree with your sentiments regarding that image and the thread it was in. However, I think that Snyper hit the nail on the head in his post.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Just back from the reported posts forum - there was a lot more rantworthy things in that post than that It's certainly not as bad as other stuff (like the holy vaginas pic) that was posted recently.

    Note to other mods - don't search for 'cool vids' in reported posts if you've recently eaten. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    snyper wrote: »

    Are you on the left or the right?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    won't someone please think of the children


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