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    #32
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users Posts: 14,685 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Dagnir Glaurung wrote:
    According to this we have an IQ of 99...can't vouch for the reliability of the site though. This says the same thing


    ahh no wonder...look they took the test in dublin.


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    #33
    Raphael
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    "IQ is nothing more than an approximate measure of your ability to do IQ tests"


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    #34
    Hagar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Don't we all have Neanderthal like brows, protruding chins and knuckles which drag on the ground as we lope, ape-like, along?


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    #35
    anthony4335
    Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    All tests are a measure of knowledge and are subjective in nature to the limit on the questions.
    And to look into how an IQ test is measured ,including all factors and all the rest that usually goes with stats ,would give you a migraine.
    As with all figures you can make them say what you like .Like that test that had Ireland at 99.3 ,used Dublin only (I am assuming the city) , 1 million out of 4, an urban environment. Totally biased.


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    #36
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,633 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Giblet wrote:
    WHAT THE **** IS THIS! jesus, where did I put my English-Retard dictionary.

    'nevr heard dat b4, i did hear 1 bout d blacks in nigeria r sumthin havin bout 40 lower IQ avg dan mst of d rst of d world..'

    I think it translates into English as:

    'Never heard that before, i did hear one about the blacks in Nigeria or something having about 40 lower IQ average then most of the rest of the world'

    Hey could that be construed as 'racist'?


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    #37
    Dagnir Glaurung
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Dagnir Glaurung


    scop wrote:
    Can you point me in the direction of anything that would show his interpetations are shoddy etc?

    At the bottom of the second page of the attachement it claims that Lynn only have evidence for 81 national IQs and they guessed - sorry, estimated - the other 104. Does that count as shoddy interpertation?


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    #38
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    text speak is colloquially known as retard speak on Boards.


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    #39
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    I've done a search of that users previous posts, and it looks to me like that account has been used by someone who is not that user.


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    #40
    scop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭scop


    Dagnir Glaurung wrote:
    At the bottom of the second page of the attachement it claims that Lynn only have evidence for 81 national IQs and they guessed - sorry, estimated - the other 104. Does that count as shoddy interpertation?

    Thanks thats perfect :)


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    #41
    Sangre
    Registered Users Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Scarr and Weinberg (1976) looked at black children, who at an early age, had been adopted into white middle-class families. They discovered the mean IQ of these children was 110, which was at least 120 pointsa above the national average for black children, suggesting a strong correlation between environment and IQ.

    Hmm, I wonder what that says about IQ tests.


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    #42
    Dagnir Glaurung
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Dagnir Glaurung


    scop wrote:
    Thanks thats perfect :)

    Just doing my duty as a true Irishman *tear*


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    #43
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,202 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Sangre wrote:
    They discovered the mean IQ of these children was 110, which was at least 120 pointsa above the national average for black children
    Typo or Black children have -10 iq???

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #44
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Wertz wrote:
    ...and you were the one slating the Herald for missing satire?

    Or is this deeply deeply hidden sarcasm?

    Don't think there's any satire on ^CwAzY^'s part.

    And ^CwAzY^, this is on the After Hours charter: Posting in "rtrd" - Using txtspk n ur psts is cnsdrd been rlly stpd cuz u hv qwert kbd n ur pc so xpct 2 b wrnd. Please don't do this, this is not a bannable offence but repeat offenders might be "asked" to take a break from posting.


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    #45
    Terry
    Registered Users Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Dagnir Glaurung wrote:
    At the bottom of the second page of the attachement it claims that Lynn only have evidence for 81 national IQs and they guessed - sorry, estimated - the other 104. Does that count as shoddy interpertation?
    the last time i checked, there was about 300 countries in the world.
    yet more flaws in his work.


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    #46
    Sangre
    Registered Users Posts: 12,152 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    There is nowhere near 300 countries in the world. Most people usually agree on 193.


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    #47
    constitutionus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    to be honest IQ tests are a load of bollocks and just really and excuse for some people to act all elitist. so much of em depend on actual education, what if you never went to school in your life? just cause you were never taught pythagoris's theroem (ok i know i spelled it arse ways, im dying with a hangover) doesnt mean you dont have the intelectual capability do preform it yet none of that is never taken into account. when you consider the state of africa in general its bloody obvious it'd look like theyve got lower intelligence when in reality its nothing of the sort. remember boys and girls theres only .01% genetic difference between you and everyone else on the planet so the idea different "races" are thicker than others is utter ****e.
    lets remember who invented these tests, if we had to take a test created by third world countries focusing on how to survive in those areas of the world im pretty sure we'd come out looking like retards, after all how many of us actually know how to farm?

    edit* by the way i checked wikipedia and they state theres 243 countries . that said i think julep, is right. i seem to remember a news bulliten a few weeks back on the 300TH recognised country, for the life of me i cant remember its name but the figure was 300. duh just rememberd it was montenegro when they voted to split from serbia!


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    #48
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    ^CwAzY^ wrote:
    yawn, dis is taken from richard lynn site




    taken from www.rlynn.co.uk

    u cant call me a racist for quotin facts

    What's your point? Read my post again & you'll see all I posted in the first part was indisputable fact.

    "That's the second time today I've seen you post something negative about blacks"

    I never said you were wrong. You're probably right because in areas of poverty the IQ drops. I do however think you'd be somewhat surprised at the results from an IQ test on black children brought up in middle-class Ireland. The only difference between you and a black person is the level of seratonin you produce. Same species I'm afraid.

    I never called you a racist. However the fact that you thought I accused you of being a racist means it's likely you thought your comments are racist.

    Seeing as you originally made them I'm fairly sure you're a racist.

    The second part of my post was a sarcastic insult toward the way you type your posts.
    Wertz wrote:
    ...and you were the one slating the Herald for missing satire?

    Or is this deeply deeply hidden sarcasm?


    Were you quoting the right person? I mean I don't actually think his sister's typing his posts. I don't know if he has a sister. I don't even know if he's a he.

    Or are you saying his textspeech is satirical?

    In the other thread I was slating people who don't get satire. The herald's headline was a good example. Though in fact they more than likely know better, just wanted a reactionary headline.


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    #49
    metrovelvet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    If you go into areas of poverty you will find lower IQs probably from basic malnourishment.

    If you go into areas of Venezuela, where the poverty is so bad that mothers cook pasta, eat the pasta themselves and feed the water the pasta was cooked in to their children, to the effect that there is severe brain damage and underdevelopment. If you take this as a sampling, you will come out with "hispanics are half brain dead," which is just inaccurate.

    Im not familiar with these stats or the dates the info was gathered, but I can remember visiting Ireland in the 80s and I saw a lot of rotten and missing teeth, and I still see it - I still see bad skin and unhealthy children. A diet of crisp sandwiches does not a genius make.


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    #50
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    metrovelvet wrote:
    If you go into areas of poverty you will find lower IQs probably from basic malnourishment.

    If you go into areas of Venezuela, where the poverty is so bad that mothers cook pasta, eat the pasta themselves and feed the water the pasta was cooked in to their children, to the effect that there is severe brain damage and underdevelopment. If you take this as a sampling, you will come out with "hispanics are half brain dead," which is just inaccurate.

    Im not familiar with these stats or the dates the info was gathered, but I can remember visiting Ireland in the 80s and I saw a lot of rotten and missing teeth, and I still see it - I still see bad skin and unhealthy children. A diet of crisp sandwiches does not a genius make.

    Exactly, and if you're a racist you can turn a blind eye to that sort of thing


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    #51
    aidan24326
    Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    RuggieBear wrote:
    There is an argument that the Irish IQ is lower by about 10 point generally as at some deep sub conscious level we all think in only Irish (the language of our ancestors) and as a consequence of speaking and thinking in English, part of our brain power is consumed doing the "translations".

    Probably the daftest thing I've ever read on this site. I hope you're only joking.
    Btw I think the Bell curve is a awful piece of research with some really dodgy methodology and even worse analysis

    Not sure how accurate it is in relation to IQ measurement, it does appear to at least give a good approximation. But it's validity and importance in many other fields has been well demonstrated.


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    #52
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Dudess wrote:
    Don't think there's any satire on ^CwAzY^'s part.

    And ^CwAzY^, this is on the After Hours charter: Posting in "rtrd" - Using txtspk n ur psts is cnsdrd been rlly stpd cuz u hv qwert kbd n ur pc so xpct 2 b wrnd. Please don't do this, this is not a bannable offence but repeat offenders might be "asked" to take a break from posting.


    Fair enough....I was operating on the, usually safe, "no-one can be that idiotic" assumption and as search is broken I have no way of seeing ^CwAzY^'s previous posts, on which to judge.

    Smacked of sarcasm to me...if not, I'm looking for it where it's not there...


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    #53
    Thomas_S_Hunterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Crucifix wrote:
    I thought 100 was the average by definition. I could be wrong though.
    100 is the average. by definition


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    #54
    RuggieBear
    Registered Users Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    aidan24326 wrote:
    Probably the daftest thing I've ever read on this site. I hope you're only joking.

    Never said i believed it...


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    #55
    aidan24326
    Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    monkeyfudge wrote:
    Well I think it's something like 80% have an IQ between 90 and 110.

    Anything below 70 and you're looking at mental retardation though.

    50% are between 90 and 110 AFAIK.


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    #56
    dermo88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭dermo88


    In fairness, I would be surprised if Nigerians have a lower IQ than the rest of the world. They have proven abilities with computers. Nobody with a below average IQ could invent the lies in the average 419 scam letter. On the other hand anyone who believes a 419 scam must be bordering on mental retardation.

    Obviously all the idiots in Nigeria have died off, and the Nigerians typing up 419 scams think that the rest of the world is as stupid as the idiots they had previously. After all, any country that kept the likes of Sani Abacha in power has got to be screwed up. Any country that can go from second richest to second poorest in 20 years has really got to be screwed up.

    Lets not mention Nigeria and low IQ's in the same sentence. The country, the scam artists letters from it, and its corruption exists purely to give bigots proof that apartheid and racism might be justified, and that "colonialisation was a jolly good idea old chap". It is to Africa what a fart is to a spacesuit.


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    #57
    aidan24326
    Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    the Shades wrote:
    On the plus side if the Irish average is 93 I'm well above that :D

    The average in any 'normal distribution' is 100 by definition. How much you deviate from that is supposed to be the measure of how smart you are relative to the rest of the population. It's very difficult to compare IQ measurements right across the spectrum of humanity due to cultural differences and the near impossibility of setting tests that are fair right across the board and that measure the full range of human mental capacity, something that standard IQ tests don't really do. They serve as a rough guide, but that's all.


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    #58
    ferdi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    IQ is bollox


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    #59
    aidan24326
    Registered Users Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    RuggieBear wrote:
    Never said i believed it...

    Fair enough. It's pretty ridiculous nonsense though, whoever came up with it.


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    #60
    Supercell
    Registered Users Posts: 15,322 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    I suppose anywhere with poor diet and high emigration is likely to have a lower IQ on average compared to other places.
    One might argue in the 80's with high emigration and recession that the Irish national IQ was possibly indeed slightly lower than now for example.
    But with boom time and net immigration of Polands brightest (amongst other nations) with presumably more people able to afford to eat better that this is no longer the case.
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    #61
    Pocari Sweat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Pocari Sweat


    There was one poster on boards yesterday - Democrates - who was blagging on about having a 160 IQ amongst other up-his-own-ass claims of running a successful business etc, to try to win an argument when his subject matter was failing him.

    I heard the 93 quote last year in the Irish Daily Mail, listing Hong Kong as having the highest mean IQ of 107, which would balance out to 100 if that was the highest and lowest world IQs.

    But many posters are right, IQ tests are designed to get a rough idea of the speed of thinking in getting particular answers in Maths, Language and Geometry. It is not a test of knowledge to any degree, or business acumen which seems to be high in Ireland, or computer skills - high again, or other intellectual areas of the brain, socialising, emotional IQ etc, etc.

    As a bit of inspiration, most degree qualified academics rarely reach over 110 to 120 IQ including a lot of doctors and Phd bods, as these qualifications are more to do with a lot of study and collecting a mass of knowledge but not especially the speed or processing power of the brain which IQ measures.


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