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dewsbury · 10-01-2013, 00:10

...I know this thread is a bit dormant but...

Indulge me in my little pet (unreasonably) hate.

It may be my imagination but there seems to be a certain class of people who say "ye" for the plural of you.

"Ye" may well be correct but "you" is also the plural of "you".

I am convinced that certain people who did not grow up saying "ye" have somehow adopted the word i preference to "you".

There you go, I told you it was unreasonably! I feel better now!

Jellybaby1 · 10-01-2013, 00:16

I'm sure you feel much better now for that, dewsbury, but sorry to tell you that I am one of those people who uses the word 'ye'. It's not uncommon for me to use it as I was brought up to read ye Bible

hence it's not unusual for us. I often hear my 20-something daughter using 'ye' in conversation too.

**OldGoat** · 10-01-2013, 08:44

I'm a 'Ye' user too. Using 'you' as a plural never sounds right to me.
I love that I'm now in a class of people.

Jellybaby1 · 10-01-2013, 12:05

A better class of people!

Har! (Sorry, snob just slipped out)

looksee · 10-01-2013, 13:19

Right on jb, I am one of that class too

- I would use ye informally as a plural, and even yiz at times! even though I have an English accent and it isn't at all part of my background. Its a very useful word though.

Jellybaby1 · 10-01-2013, 14:52

When my brother was a young lad, wayyyy back in the mists of time, he'd come in from playing outside (for hours) and instead of saying 'did you have your tea?' he'd say 'did youse have yisser tea? I still laugh at that.

Esel · 10-01-2013, 23:22

'Ye' is frequently used by us Hiberno-English speakers. Lots more instances of different usage and sentence construction too...

Jellybaby1 · 11-01-2013, 01:01

What about that old Yorkshire thing of 'thee' and 'thy', as per Compo in LOTSW: "Have thee got any dripping, Sid?" None of the other characters used it. And it was always 'thee', but never 'thou'. Wonder if anyone uses it now in Yorkshire?

looksee · 11-01-2013, 07:45

Don't know, its a while since I lived there, but it wasn't so much thee and thou (like the Quakers) as thi and tha - 'give us thi coat' and 'whats tha doin''. I think it probably still goes on.

There's also that t' sound that is used instead of 'the'. People trying to copy it say 't' but in reality there was mostly no sound at all, just a kind of spoken hiccup 'put it on t' table' actually sounds like 'put it on table' but there is a kind of vocal hitch between on and table.

**OldGoat** · 11-01-2013, 10:18

Y and Th were reversed in medieval English so that You would have been Thou and The was written as Ye, as in Dost thou see ye castle/Do you see the castle

Ye as a plural for You is a dialect thing rather than a grammatical one I think.

Rasmus · 11-01-2013, 10:25

'FML'. It is so ridiculous.

Jellybaby1 · 13-01-2013, 10:11

'Compliment' instead of 'complement'.

Sam Kade · 13-01-2013, 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by odds_on

Some words that really bug me:
Spoken:
.... dude

Written:
.... would of (and all similar "of"s which should be "have").

And in general the poor state of spelling on so many forums, (there for their etc). I don't believe that these are typos but poor spelling by the posters.

I also hate all text message abbreviations.

No need to read too far into this thread to find a word that really annoys me

*Auld-Yin* · 25-02-2013, 20:05

Yous or youse. - Normally spoken but I've seen both versions used in print.

~

Massive as in 'massive 200GB hard disk' or 320GB or 500GB etc. and also in 'massive 4GB ram'. - Given all that, it would seemthat massive is meaningless.

~

I'd love to know what the spelling standard is in english exam papers.

Jellybaby1 · 26-02-2013, 00:41

I've often seen job adverts for 'excellent English required' only to find a few misspellings within the advert. Daft or what?

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10-01-2013, 00:10	#286
dewsbury Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 377 Adverts \| Friends	...I know this thread is a bit dormant but... Indulge me in my little pet (unreasonably) hate. It may be my imagination but there seems to be a certain class of people who say "ye" for the plural of you. "Ye" may well be correct but "you" is also the plural of "you". I am convinced that certain people who did not grow up saying "ye" have somehow adopted the word i preference to "you". There you go, I told you it was unreasonably! I feel better now!

10-01-2013, 00:16	#287
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	I'm sure you feel much better now for that, dewsbury, but sorry to tell you that I am one of those people who uses the word 'ye'. It's not uncommon for me to use it as I was brought up to read ye Bible hence it's not unusual for us. I often hear my 20-something daughter using 'ye' in conversation too.

10-01-2013, 08:44	#288
OldGoat Registered Goat Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ...Oh my god, I'm full of stars! Posts: 9,125 Adverts \| Friends CMod: Burlesque & Cabaret, Oulwans 'n' Oulfellas, Music Mods, Music	I'm a 'Ye' user too. Using 'you' as a plural never sounds right to me. I love that I'm now in a class of people.

10-01-2013, 12:05	#289
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	A better class of people! Har! (Sorry, snob just slipped out)

10-01-2013, 13:19	#290
looksee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,876 Adverts \| Friends	Right on jb, I am one of that class too - I would use ye informally as a plural, and even yiz at times! even though I have an English accent and it isn't at all part of my background. Its a very useful word though.

10-01-2013, 14:52	#291
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	When my brother was a young lad, wayyyy back in the mists of time, he'd come in from playing outside (for hours) and instead of saying 'did you have your tea?' he'd say 'did youse have yisser tea? I still laugh at that.

10-01-2013, 23:22	#292
Esel Not your ornery onager... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Dublin Posts: 12,501 Adverts \| Friends	'Ye' is frequently used by us Hiberno-English speakers. Lots more instances of different usage and sentence construction too...

11-01-2013, 01:01	#293
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	What about that old Yorkshire thing of 'thee' and 'thy', as per Compo in LOTSW: "Have thee got any dripping, Sid?" None of the other characters used it. And it was always 'thee', but never 'thou'. Wonder if anyone uses it now in Yorkshire?

11-01-2013, 07:45	#294
looksee Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 6,876 Adverts \| Friends	Don't know, its a while since I lived there, but it wasn't so much thee and thou (like the Quakers) as thi and tha - 'give us thi coat' and 'whats tha doin''. I think it probably still goes on. There's also that t' sound that is used instead of 'the'. People trying to copy it say 't' but in reality there was mostly no sound at all, just a kind of spoken hiccup 'put it on t' table' actually sounds like 'put it on table' but there is a kind of vocal hitch between on and table.

11-01-2013, 10:18	#295
OldGoat Registered Goat Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ...Oh my god, I'm full of stars! Posts: 9,125 Adverts \| Friends CMod: Burlesque & Cabaret, Oulwans 'n' Oulfellas, Music Mods, Music	Y and Th were reversed in medieval English so that You would have been Thou and The was written as Ye, as in Dost thou see ye castle/Do you see the castle Ye as a plural for You is a dialect thing rather than a grammatical one I think.

11-01-2013, 10:25	#296
Rasmus Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,653 Adverts \| Friends	'FML'. It is so ridiculous.

13-01-2013, 10:11	#297
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	'Compliment' instead of 'complement'.

25-02-2013, 20:05	#299
Auld-Yin Omnia Vincit Amor Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: But an' Ben at Solas dig. Posts: 2,415 Adverts \| Friends	Yous or youse. - Normally spoken but I've seen both versions used in print. ~ Massive as in 'massive 200GB hard disk' or 320GB or 500GB etc. and also in 'massive 4GB ram'. - Given all that, it would seemthat massive is meaningless. ~ I'd love to know what the spelling standard is in english exam papers.

26-02-2013, 00:41	#300
Jellybaby1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Depths of Despair Posts: 2,407 Adverts \| Friends	I've often seen job adverts for 'excellent English required' only to find a few misspellings within the advert. Daft or what?