What software does the like of joe.ie run?

Sorry, what framework is the website built on....hope that's clearer...?

Chickentown wrote: »

There are so many options out there it must be great if you know what your doing. I find for the casual observer like myself I am often saturated with information and so many options like Wordpress or Drupal, servers, Apache, hosting, CMS that I wouldn't really know where to dive in if I wanted to create a bog standard website with a small user database as a learning project.

I studied Java and C in college, got on great, really enjoyed it actually. But I never got to use code for anything other than generic programs to run within the IDE.

What would some of you guys recommend as a path towards getting to the standard of creating something small scale as mentioned above, part-time as a hobby.

I created a Wordpress website before, and I also used Dreamweaver to create another website a few years back. That really is the extend of my web development career so far :-)

Decide on a goal that motivates you enough, to figure out what you need to do to get there....

Does anyone here have any opinions on python frameworks....I like the idea of using python....considering I don't know PHP or Ruby on rails....

I'm basing myself on this inforgraphic and just to note python is specified as being faster in this image....I do know that Java isn't the best for a lot of applications but it's still used because it's what most developers know...thus, you know you can get employees on the market fairly easily....whether people agree with this or not that's fine - I don't consider myself any sort of expert in this field.

deconduo wrote: »

For Python, you are most likely looking at either Flask (for small/quick/simple apps) or Django (for something more robust)

I;d recommend taking a look at Flask first, and getting a simple site up and running. A basic Flask webapp is as easy as:

from flask import Flask
app = Flask(__name__)

@app.route('/')
def hello_world():
    return 'Hello World!'

if __name__ == '__main__':
    app.run()

Once you get the hang of it, you can start looking at Django. A lot of the fundamentals of Django are used in Flask (templating language, views and models etc.) so it will be much easier to pick up.

Flask: http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/0.10/
Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
Others: https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks

I actually want to reverse engineer a news website....not joe.ie though but a similar site....I was using this template with drupal...
http://demo.morethanthemes.com/newsplus/default/


After messing around with it for a while I decided it was too complex (the code behind it)....what I did was starting collapsing all the javascript in Notepad++ so I could strip it all down to something that made it easier to figure out - feck that now.

I was wondering about joe.ie because; well....just because I've been looking around to see what cms other business' are using....The CSS layout was done completely different to Drupal on joe.ie. I found it impossible to believe that they would create something from scratch given all the modules and extensibility provided by the community with other systems.

Now, I'm wondering if I could implement something similar to that theme in a python framework that I could reverse engineer to understand....I'm not so much interested in python in and of itself; but, I do want to understand a cms....I will learn as much about python as I need to know to understand the cms basically.

Is Django the framework for me?

deconduo wrote: »

If you can follow the beginner's tutorial here: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/intro/tutorial01/ and you understand most of what's going on, it's a good start. To build something like a news site from scratch is going to take a bit a work though.

I created a demo starter project, and threw it up on github here: https://github.com/deconduo/django-demo

The only additions to the standard django template is what's in the newsApp folder. This is a basic app that will allow you to create and view simple articles. The main engines here are the models.py file which basically describes what's going on the database, and the views.py file which controls how the models are displayed. There's also templates which the views hook into to display the content.

I've included the bootstrap files to make it look a bit nicer. It looks something like the below:



Obviously this is a bit bare, but you can use it as your base and work from there. Stuff like adding some more CSS or adding more to the Article class (like a created time, or a category type)

I think I should really stick to Drupal seeing as I have a template there which puts me miles ahead of Django in terms of project developnent....at this point in time I don't think it's that important to be taking consideration to speed etc...

Getting everything working in a short amount of time is the main goal....

deconduo wrote: »

In that case you definitely want to be looking at a CMS rather than starting with a full web framework.

Oh right - I assumed all cms systems were based on a web framework....?

What do you think of address? It has a wp-content folder on the server....

http://m0.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/15191911/Mayo-hat-1.jpg