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Hawke mildot

  • 26-06-2015 2:16pm
    #1
    garv123
    Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know the true mildot magnification on a Hawke varmint 6-24x44 and will the standard USMC mildot on strelok work with it?


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  • #2
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    In general, the Mil dot only actually measures/subtends 1 Mil at 100m at one particular magnification. With my NSX-series Nightforce scopes, that just happens to be when they are set to x22 - a hash-mark on the zoom ring shows this odd position.

    There is no such animal as a USMC Mil dot - it has no ownership, being an official measurement of an angle.

    What you have to do is to check out the magnification on YOUR scope that makes it correct at 100m - all else follows from that. Is there no mention of it in the instructions?

    tac


  • #3
    Vegeta
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Well there is a difference between trigonometric mil and the NATO mil and scope manufacturers do use both.
    It would be guess work on my part as to which version Hawke use.

    Here's a youtube video of a March scope which apparently uses NATO mil, according to one commentator, being tested on a trigonometric mil test board.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKBh6QPmdQk


  • #4
    tac foley
    Registered Users Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Well, hooda thort it, eh? Thanks for the elucidation.

    It is of some little interest that every person in the entire armed forces of NATO is taught to use the 1/6400 Mildot.

    Be interesting to ask what members of the PDF/RDF use, too.

    Incidentally, the Russian military use a 6000 'mil' circle - divide by 100 to get minutes. Most Russians have a watch, and can easily relate the 6000 'mil' circle to analogue watch time.

    tac


  • #5
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    garv123 wrote: »
    Does anyone know the true mildot magnification on a Hawke varmint 6-24x44...................

    10 power. Apparently. Had one and had to find this out too.
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  • #6
    garv123
    Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Cass wrote: »
    10 power. Apparently. Had one and had to find this out too.

    That's the answer I was like looking for. Did u use strelok with it?


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  • #7
    clivej
    Registered Users Posts: 7,027 ✭✭✭clivej


    Check it yourself. Mildots are 100mm at 100m.

    To save a walk use it at 50m.
    So draw up a big'ish cross with markings from the centre at 50mm, 100mm, 150mm, 200mm each side of centre and at 50m zoom in/out until the markings line up. When they all line up that is when the zoom of your scope is true.

    In Strelok use the army mildot.

    easy peasy


  • #8
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    garv123 wrote: »
    Did u use strelok with it?

    Afraid not. I just like to know the true ranging mag setting for my scopes as i sometimes use it to range the distance. I don't use any BC in conjunction with the scope. The formula is :

    Height of Target (in yards) X 1,000 : Divided by : Total amount of Mil-Dots the target "covers" = Distance to target.


    For example a Crow is say (pure guess) 10 inches tall which is 0.25 yards. It takes up 3 mil-dots in your scope on the ranging magnification setting. So it's 10 x 0.25 yds / 3 = 83 yards to the crow.
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  • #9
    ALANC81
    Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭ALANC81


    If you don't want to convert inches to yards then get the size of the target in inches divide by mills and multiply by 27.7 = the distance in yards.
    eg 10" / .5 mills = 20 x 27.7 = 554 yards.


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