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BREAST FEEDING A 3 YEAR OLD !

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  • #62
    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    dotsman wrote: »
    It's 2012.

    ...an we've evolved past needing to hunt, gather berries, live in caves (or, we have different names for them now).
    We haven't evolved past human breast-milk being the healthiest source of nutrition for a child.


  • #63
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    dotsman wrote: »
    Hunter-gatherers also lived in caves and lived solely off wild animals and berries.

    If your neighbour lived like that, would you not also think that he/she is weird?

    It's 2012.


    :rolleyes:


  • #64
    Shryke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    dotsman wrote: »
    Hunter-gatherers also lived in caves and lived solely off wild animals and berries.

    If your neighbour lived like that, would you not also think that he/she is weird?

    It's 2012.


    :rolleyes:

    No really it is.


  • #65
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    Hunter gatherers breastfed until much later.
    You keep harping on about hunter gatherers. Hunter gatherers don't have supermarkets or refrigerators. Hunter gatherers also don't have toilet paper or tampons.
    I'd advise caution to anyone who looks to our ancient past for life guidance in modern society.


  • #66
    dotsman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭dotsman


    grindle wrote: »
    ...an we've evolved past needing to hunt, gather berries, live in caves (or, we have different names for them now).
    We haven't evolved past human breast-milk being the healthiest source of nutrition for a child.

    As we have also evolved past the need to breastfeed older children. Infants? no problem, but 5 year olds?

    I started school when I turned 4. Should my mother have left work at lunch time every day to come in to my school and whip out her mammaries? I was in "play school" when I was 3. Do you think she should have done likewise?

    Do you think I somehow suffered because she didn't do any of this?

    As soon as a child is able to eat normal food, there is no need for breast milk.


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  • #67
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Shryke wrote: »
    No really it is.

    well done you. good boy.


  • #68
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    dotsman wrote: »
    As we have also evolved past the need to breastfeed older children. Infants? no problem, but 5 year olds?

    I started school when I turned 4. Should my mother have left work at lunch time every day to come in to my school and whip out her mammaries? I was in "play school" when I was 3. Do you think she should have done likewise?

    Do you think I somehow suffered because she didn't do any of this?

    As soon as a child is able to eat normal food, there is no need for breast milk.

    I don't think you understand the difference between evolution and socialisation.

    We have not evolved past the need for breastfeeding. We have created alternatives.

    Children don't need to breastfeed at all. I never said they did.


  • #69
    Greentopia
    Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    I don't see any problem in mothers breast feeding kids up to 3 or 4 if that's what the mother and child wants. And I don't feel mothers should have to be 'discrete' about breast feeding in public either as if there's something to be ashamed or embarrassed about.
    I don't mean stripping off topless like(!) but I don't see the need to cover up breasts when it's obvious there's a baby being fed.


  • #70
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Greentopia wrote: »
    I don't see any problem in mothers breast feeding kids up to 3 or 4 if that's what the mother and child wants. And I don't feel mothers should have to be 'discrete' about breast feeding in public either as if there's something to be ashamed or embarrassed about.
    I don't mean stripping off topless like(!) but I don't see the need to cover up breasts when it's obvious there's a baby being fed.

    Don't forget that people are forced to stare.:eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • #71
    KamiKazeKitten
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭KamiKazeKitten


    I don't have a problem with her breastfeeding the kid at that age, but the poor lad will get some serious slagging when he's older for this.


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  • #72
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I think doing it up to an age where the child will be able to remember it is wrong.

    Who would like having the memory of sucking on their mams tits?:confused:


  • #73
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    I think doing it up to an age where the child will be able to remember it is wrong.

    Who would like having the memory of sucking on their mams tits?:confused:

    I think it depends on the mam. Yummy Mummies should be forced to breastfeed until college, ugly should stop at 6 months.


  • #74
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Greentopia wrote: »
    And I don't feel mothers should have to be 'discrete' about breast feeding in public either as if there's something to be ashamed or embarrassed about.
    I don't mean stripping off topless like(!) but I don't see the need to cover up breasts when it's obvious there's a baby being fed.
    When I say discreet, the above is exactly what I mean - not showing any more boob than can be avoided.


  • #75
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Shes a ride and let her do what she feels is right for the child.


  • #76
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Yakult wrote: »
    Shes a ride and let her do what she feels is right for the child.
    Fat, plain woman doing so: "It's disgusting and look at the state of her."


  • #77
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I don't have a problem with extended breast feeding. I do have a problem with the article and the way its been posed, the tag line etc. I don't know what her point is but she has just made extended breast feeders look like nutters who want to get one up on other mothers.


  • #78
    Greentopia
    Registered Users Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    Dudess wrote: »
    When I say discreet, the above is exactly what I mean - not showing any more boob than can be avoided.

    Fair nuff. And I see I spelled discreet wrongly in my post :o


  • #79
    grindle
    Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    dotsman wrote: »
    As we have also evolved past the need to breastfeed older children. Infants? no problem, but 5 year olds?

    I started school when I turned 4. Should my mother have left work at lunch time every day to come in to my school and whip out her mammaries? I was in "play school" when I was 3. Do you think she should have done likewise?

    Do you think I somehow suffered because she didn't do any of this?

    As soon as a child is able to eat normal food, there is no need for breast milk.

    I don't think the last line is strictly true, but I do think that 2-4 shouldn't be seen as such an abnormal age-range, considering it very much is the norm, just not in our post-Victorian 'civilised' societies.
    We can choose what's socially acceptable (often wrong, often right), but we can't choose what's biologically best.
    I doubt there're any extra benefits past 4 bar a motherly bond that may or may not effect the child's psyche, either positively or negatively.
    Either way, I'm not a massive fan of the extreme-extenders, but there's zero wrong with a 3 year-old being fed what's best.


  • #80
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Greentopia wrote: »
    Fair nuff. And I see I spelled discreet wrongly in my post :o
    I wasn't pointing that out btw - I don't know did you spell it wrong either. I've seen "discrete" - maybe it's spelt two ways.


  • #81
    Teyla Emmagan
    Registered Users Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Dudess wrote: »
    I wasn't pointing that out btw - I don't know did you spell it wrong either. I've seen "discrete" - maybe it's spelt two ways.

    Discrete is different word entirely, it means 'separate'.


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  • #82
    prinz
    Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Dudess wrote: »
    Fat, plain woman doing so: "It's disgusting and look at the state of her."

    Pretty much spot on. It's no coincidence that quite a number of posts on this thread have referred to the mothers looks.

    Whatever about the concept for extended breastfeeding (no need for it in my IMO, the kid should be eating a diet of solids etc, any benefit from breast milk at his age could be gotten from other sources) the woman in the picture is an attention seeker and as far as I'm concerned abusing her son to promote herself, according to a BBC article she has a blog about breastfeeding her son, including pics of her breastfeeding him at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion which according to her is the most natural place in the world to breastfeed. Reminds me of the dopey bint who outed her 7 year (IIRC) as being gay for a bit of online attention.


  • #83
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    I think yes. You say that like it's something bizarre or sexual.
    I do think it's bizarre past toddler stage. And that's pushing it. I don't think of it as sexual though. Although I reckon breasts themselves are sexual (they're pleasure organs after all) in addition to being functional - but it depends on context. Mother nature or whomever must have been having a laugh when they invented an organ that both feeds babies and gives sexual pleasure. :eek: :pac:
    A mother's tit is for a child to suck.
    Yes, but there's a cut-off point. Why, when the child has teeth and can eat solids, when the gruelling feeding regime of infant-hood is no longer required (one of the benefits of breastfeeding - the convenience of it) is it necessary to latch the kid onto the boob for nom-nom time. In terms of the nutrients - express?
    Personally, I would treat breastfeeding the same way as nappies - a healthy child could remain wearing nappies until they're four/five, but there is a cut-off point.


  • #84
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    prinz wrote: »
    Pretty much spot on. It's no coincidence that quite a number of posts on this thread have referred to the mothers looks.

    Whatever about the concept for extended breastfeeding (no need for it in my IMO, the kid should be eating a diet of solids etc, any benefit from breast milk at his age could be gotten from other sources) the woman in the picture is an attention seeker and as far as I'm concerned abusing her son to promote herself, according to a BBC article she has a blog about breastfeeding her son, including pics of her breastfeeding him at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion which according to her is the most natural place in the world to breastfeed. Reminds me of the dopey bint who outed her 7 year (IIRC) as being gay for a bit of online attention.

    A newborn's milk could be got from other sources, but that is no reason not to breastfeed.

    The woman could well be an attention seeker but it shouldn't distract from the fact that breastfeeding a three-year old is natural. That we have become socialised to believe it not to be doesn't make it unnatural.


  • #85
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    prinz wrote: »
    It's no coincidence that quite a number of posts on this thread have referred to the mothers looks.
    To be fair, she is very good-looking - but it's gas how (apart from the jokes) some geniuses are defending her based on those looks. :D
    the woman in the picture is an attention seeker and as far as I'm concerned abusing her son to promote herself, according to a BBC article she has a blog about breastfeeding her son, including pics of her breastfeeding him at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion which according to her is the most natural place in the world to breastfeed. Reminds me of the dopey bint who outed her 7 year (IIRC) as being gay for a bit of online attention.
    Not sure I'd call it abuse, but yeah, what a seriously attention-seeking gimp. Seems like she's on a mission to make breastfeeding sexy. Doubtless you could get more vacuous tbh. Some eejits will lap it up though... because she's hot.


  • #86
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    A newborn's milk could be got from other sources, but that is no reason not to breastfeed.

    The woman could well be an attention seeker but it shouldn't distract from the fact that breastfeeding a three-year old is natural. That we have become socialised to believe it not to be doesn't make it unnatural.
    I don't think people are disputing it's natural - although at what age does it become unnatural? Or is it natural even when the child is 19 and the mother is 40 because it's mother and child?
    It's more the fact that it's unnecessary and strange after toddler stage - yeah maybe I'm conditioned, but there are a lot of natural things that have evolved to become unacceptable.


  • #87
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Dudess wrote: »
    I don't think people are disputing it's natural - although at what age does it become unnatural? Or is it natural even when the child is 19 and the mother is 40 because it's mother and child?
    It's more the fact that it's unnecessary and strange after toddler stage - yeah maybe I'm conditioned, but there are a lot of natural things that have evolved to become unacceptable.

    Sorry I can't argue with that. To suggest that we have evolved past breastfeeding three-year-olds is racism.

    Why is it racist? Because in the west, we have not evolved anymore than other humans alive today. That many Indians breastfeed at three does not make them less evolved than us.:mad:

    That you, and I, consider it weird or strange for three-year olds to breastfeed means that we have become socialised or conditioned to the idea that it is not normal. It has got sweet FA to do with evolution and any suggestion that not breastfeeding a three-year old is a factor of evolution suggests a misunderstanding of what evolution actually is.

    The average age across the globe for mothers to breastfeed is four years old. To suggest that women who do this are less evolved is repugnant.


  • #88
    Local-womanizer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    I would ask my doctor for advice tbh.

    And children can gain healthy nutrients from parents providing good food.

    Once the teeth come in they should be on solids I think.


  • #89
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    Dudess wrote: »
    To be fair, she is very good-looking - but it's gas how (apart from the jokes) some geniuses are defending her based on those looks. :D

    Not sure I'd call it abuse, but yeah, what a seriously attention-seeking gimp. Seems like she's on a mission to make breastfeeding sexy. Doubtless you could get more vacuous tbh. Some eejits will lap it up though... because she's hot.
    :rolleyes: :D


  • #90
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Knew you'd spot it! :pac:

    Ah but you don't really "lap" breastmilk do ya? :p


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  • #91
    prinz
    Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    To suggest that women who do this are less evolved is repugnant.

    Can you tell the difference between people evolving themselves, and evolving attitudes?


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