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A chance to scrap the Angelus - Nutella, Croissants and Pineapples.

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  • #2
    Hoagy
    Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Hoagy


    Thanks for that.
    Five minutes?
    Took me half an hour.


  • #3
    Staph
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Staph


    Took me a bit too, but glad I got a chance to comment.


  • #4
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    I have a quicker way, change the channel :-)


  • #5
    rughdh
    Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭rughdh


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I have a quicker way, change the channel :-)

    How about we include the Muslim call to prayer and other prompts to pray for all religions in existence? And sure, can't we just change the channel for them too?


  • #6
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I have a quicker way, change the channel :-)
    And aren't there plenty of Educate Together schools that all the non-religious can go to? Sure what's the harm?


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  • #7
    bpmurray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    robindch wrote: »
    And aren't there plenty of Educate Together schools that all the non-religious can go to? Sure what's the harm?

    Actually there are zero non-religious schools in Ireland. Even ET is multi-denominational rather than non-denominational although, to be fair, they do act more like non-denominational.

    However, all of the places in ET schools are being taken by the religious and non-Catholics can't get into other schools because of their discriminatory practices.


  • #8
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,234 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i have an ideal solution. as well as broadcasting the angelus on RTE1, they should broadcast it on RTE2 simultaneously - but with the audio track phase inverted.
    that way, their *combined* output is one minute of silence.


  • #9
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    I have a quicker way, change the channel :-)

    Hear Hear!
    Imagine being that pernickity that having the angelus on telly bugs you. Sad really.


  • #10
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Hear Hear!
    Imagine being that pernickity that having the angelus on telly bugs you. Sad really.

    Imagine both paying state taxes and a license fee which are then used to pay for advertising of an iron age belief system during prime evening viewing time Every. Single. Day. Of. The. Year.
    Sad really.


  • #11
    Jimmy Bottlehead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,118 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Hear Hear!
    Imagine being that pernickity that having the angelus on telly bugs you. Sad really.

    The sadder part is the desire for people to hear a clanging bell with a plethora of confused folk staring into the distance on their TV every single evening.

    Makes loads of sense.


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  • #12
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,707 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    Hear Hear!
    Imagine being that pernickity that having the angelus on telly bugs you. Sad really.
    the outrage!!

    license payers making use of a feedback survey to suggest changes they would like to see on the publicly funded television station.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #13
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    It's only a minute ffs, who watches rte at 6pm anyway?


  • #14
    boombang
    Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    Doesn't take that long to fill the survey. There are 26 questions. You can skip through if you wanted and just leave the comment to get rid of the Angelus.


  • #15
    Aiel
    Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Aiel


    Its 1 minute out of your life,big deal.
    I like the minute to stop and pause during a busy day. Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast. Live and let Live!!
    Why not just change the channel??:)


  • #16
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Aiel wrote: »
    Its 1 minute out of your life,big deal.
    I like the minute to stop and pause during a busy day. Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast. Live and let Live!!
    Why not just change the channel??:)

    I take it you don't mind RTE being interrupted five more times a day for the Islamic call to prayer, then? After all, you can just change the channel.


  • #17
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Aiel wrote: »
    Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast. Live and let Live!!
    Grand, if the RCC is allowed to broadcast its call to prayer on national television, then RTE should either (a) allow all other religious beliefs and non-beliefs to broadcast something of their choice too; or (b) stop allowing the RCC to broadcast its call to prayer.

    What it can't do is provide privileged access to one group while denying access to everybody else.


  • #18
    Velvet shank
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Velvet shank


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    It's only a minute ffs, who watches rte at 6pm anyway?

    nobody...because they know well to avoid the dreadful racket taking place


  • #19
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Aiel wrote: »
    Its 1 minute out of your life,big deal.
    I like the minute     to stop and pause during a busy day. Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast. Live and let Live!!
    Why not just change the channel??:)
    This is the problem, and the argument put forward by supporters of the angelus which seems practical and fair; except it's not. You can enjoy the angelus and still see how it makes sense for it to be scrapped, similar to how one can be religious and still support separation of church and state.


  • #20
    fisgon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Aiel wrote: »
    Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast.

    No it's not, and this is the point. RTE is a state broadcaster, in a (supposedly) secular state, promoting one particular religion by having space for a catholic prayer twice a day. This is the problem. It is not a catholic station and yet is promoting catholicism, even if it is only for a couple of minutes a day.


  • #21
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,832 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There is a lot more 'religious programming'* than the two minutes a day. Masses/services, Would You Believe, that Gay Byrne yoke, etc. Joe Duffy where anyone who says they don't want to send their child to a catholic school / do catholic sacraments is portrayed as some sort of sociopath.


    * programmes in the schedule which are religious, not programming minds with religion - or is it?

    Life ain't always empty.



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  • #22
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Velvet shank wrote: »
    nobody...because they know well to avoid the dreadful racket taking place

    So what's all the fuss about then?


  • #23
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Aiel wrote: »
    Its 1 minute out of your life,big deal.
    I like the minute to stop and pause during a busy day. Your wish for it to not be broadcast is as valid as my wish that it should be broadcast. Live and let Live!!
    Why not just change the channel??:)

    What do you think about replacing it with the Muslim call to prayer? Would you be so understanding and accepting then?

    You can still stop and pause for that one min


  • #24
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    robindch wrote: »
    Grand, if the RCC is allowed to broadcast its call to prayer on national television, then RTE should either (a) allow all other religious beliefs and non-beliefs to broadcast something of their choice too; or (b) stop allowing the RCC to broadcast its call to prayer.

    What it can't do is provide privileged access to one group while denying access to everybody else.

    If you as an atheist have a suggestion of something that sums you up then why not let RTE know what it is.


  • #25
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Do you have anything other than catty remarks?


  • #26
    pauldla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    If you as an atheist have a suggestion of something that sums you up then why not let RTE know what it is.

    Link to petition to scrap Angelus is in the first post on this thread.


  • #27
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Cabaal wrote: »
    What do you think about replacing it with the Muslim call to prayer? Would you be so understanding and accepting then?

    You can still stop and pause for that one min

    I would have no problem with the muslim call to prayer.What I do have a problem with is when people go out of their way to feel offended.


  • #28
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Do you have anything other than catty remarks?

    What do you mean?


  • #29
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Your crappy one-liners, obviously.


  • #30
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    There is a lot more 'religious programming'* than the two minutes a day. Masses/services, Would You Believe, that Gay Byrne yoke, etc. Joe Duffy where anyone who says they don't want to send their child to a catholic school / do catholic sacraments is portrayed as some sort of sociopath.


    * programmes in the schedule which are religious, not programming minds with religion - or is it?

    But you are living in a country that is 96% Christian. Are you suggesting the 1% that are non believers should dictate to the rest of the country?


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  • #31
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Your crappy one-liners, obviously.

    Like the angelus on TV, you could choose not to read them but then again I get the feeling that you prefer to feel offended by them.


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