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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

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    #10022
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    please remove this troll


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    #10023
    Straight Talker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    sid wallace wrote: »
    If Scully Ryanis the best we can get we may throw our hats at it. Galway(who we've never lost to) Dublin ( who we are better than) and Cork(who a procession of decent managers made us realise we were better than) all beat Kilkenny in the last year. Why are we clapping ourselves on the back for not beating them?

    Again Cork are unbeaten against Waterford in their last three matches including two league matches and the championship last year.Waterfords forwards are not as good as Corks Limericks and Clares and the performances this year would back up that theory.Waterford do have some promising forwards but they weren't quite ready for championship hurling this year.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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    #10024
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    seananigans wrote: »
    please remove this troll

    Am starting to suspect this may be another re-incarnation of a former poster!


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    #10025
    Straight Talker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    sid wallace wrote: »
    Yes he failed.

    There's no point in me arguing with you anymore!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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    #10026
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    Straight Talker wrote: »
    Again Cork are unbeaten against Waterford in their last three matches including two league matches and the championship last year.Waterfords forwards are not as good as Corks Limericks and Clares and the performances this year would back up that theory.Waterford do have some promising forwards but they weren't quite ready for championship hurling this year.

    Well maybe if the manager had the confidence of the best forwards in the county we would have better forwards than the counties you refer to.


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    #10027
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    Straight Talker wrote: »
    Waterford were a puck of the ball away from beating Kilkenny and Michael Ryan was inches away from being the first Waterford manager to beat Kilkenny since John Keane in 1959.There's a fine margin between being a hero and the most useless gobsh!te going if your posts are anything to go by!

    We are not Kilkenny ,we never will be I hope not anyway, turning up for finals only ? blowing out cody for having a tough year ? I hope that type of behaviour is never seen south of the suire

    OFC we want to win ,and when it happens it'll be 10 times all off KK/Tipps?cork's wins together

    but im just happy to have a team with our pluck, our fight, our determination ,what has upset me more than anything ,is that the values i associate with my home has been eroded by a group of players who will be quickly forgotten as a dark chapter if they get their own way .

    I went to the last match in thurles and was beaming with pride,because we lost like men (instead of winning poorly) and my father echoed my sentiments in saying he felt pride to be represented like that.

    my father was around 12 the last time we did it, and held the trophy 2 days later in frankie welschs house, being his senior clubmate , in a time you listened on the radio and even being in the presence of liam was not worth a photo.

    after all the years of waiting if he can accept our year and be proud, I know I am


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    #10028
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    Straight Talker wrote: »
    There's no point in me arguing with you anymore!

    can we please continue to report this individual until they are removed, even if they are from Waterford they do not represent Waterford , like a kk supporter from ferrybank


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    #10029
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    seananigans wrote: »
    We are not Kilkenny ,we never will be I hope not anyway, turning up for finals only ? blowing out cody for having a tough year ? I hope that type of behaviour is never seen south of the suire

    OFC we want to win ,and when it happens it'll be 10 times all off KK/Tipps?cork's wins together

    but im just happy to have a team with our pluck, our fight, our determination ,what has upset me more than anything ,is that the values i associate with my home has been eroded by a group of players who will be quickly forgotten as a dark chapter if they get their own way .

    I went to the last match in thurles and was beaming with pride,because we lost like men (instead of winning poorly) and my father echoed my sentiments in saying he felt pride to be represented like that.

    my father was around 12 the last time we did it, and held the trophy 2 days later in frankie welschs house, being his senior clubmate , in a time you listened on the radio and even being in the presence of liam was not worth a photo.

    after all the years of waiting if he can accept our year and be proud, I know I am
    What a crock of defeatist nonsense. No wonder we win nothing.


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    #10030
    Straight Talker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    seananigans wrote: »
    We are not Kilkenny ,we never will be I hope not anyway, turning up for finals only ? blowing out cody for having a tough year ? I hope that type of behaviour is never seen south of the suire

    OFC we want to win ,and when it happens it'll be 10 times all off KK/Tipps?cork's wins together

    but im just happy to have a team with our pluck, our fight, our determination ,what has upset me more than anything ,is that the values i associate with my home has been eroded by a group of players who will be quickly forgotten as a dark chapter if they get their own way .

    I went to the last match in thurles and was beaming with pride,because we lost like men (instead of winning poorly) and my father echoed my sentiments in saying he felt pride to be represented like that.

    my father was around 12 the last time we did it, and held the trophy 2 days later in frankie welschs house, being his senior clubmate , in a time you listened on the radio and even being in the presence of liam was not worth a photo.

    after all the years of waiting if he can accept our year and be proud, I know I am

    All i ask from the players that go out and represent my club and county is that they go out and do their best and give a good account of themselves and anything else after that is a bonus.This fella that is slating Michael Ryan seems to think that Waterford have a devine right to win all irelands.Waterford Cork and Kilkenny have no right to anything.All irelands are the results of years of hard work and application and a little bit of luck on the way.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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    #10031
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    sid wallace wrote: »
    What a crock of defeatist nonsense. No wonder we win nothing.

    We have won nothing because we haven't been good enough, with the possible exception of 2007. I think most decent Waterford fans would accept that. I am really intrigued by where you have pulled this idea that we should have won an AI this year from, it's one of the oddest posts I've seen on here.


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    #10032
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    Straight Talker wrote: »
    All i ask from the players that go out and represent my club and county is that they go out and do their best and give a good account of themselves and anything else after that is a bonus.This fella that is slating Michael Ryan seems to think that Waterford have a devine right to win all irelands.Waterford Cork and Kilkenny have no right to anything.All irelands are the results of years of hard work and application and a little bit of luck on the way.

    We have no divine right to win an All Ireland. But we would have had a genuine chance of winning one this year if we had a proper manager


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    #10033
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    doz wrote: »
    We have won nothing because we haven't been good enough, with the possible exception of 2007. I think most decent Waterford fans would accept that. I am really intrigued by where you have pulled this idea that we should have won an AI this year from, it's one of the oddest posts I've seen on here.

    STOP.FEEDING.THE.TROLL

    Please respond to none of this individuals arguments and report everything they write


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    #10034
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    doz wrote: »
    We have won nothing because we haven't been good enough, with the possible exception of 2007. I think most decent Waterford fans would accept that. I am really intrigued by where you have pulled this idea that we should have won an AI this year from, it's one of the oddest posts I've seen on here.
    Do you genuinely think we are inferior to the rest of the teams left inthe championship?


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    #10035
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    sid wallace wrote: »
    Do you genuinely think we are inferior to the rest of the teams left in the championship?

    I genuinely think that we are short in the forwards compared to the remaining counties. We are missing a top quality centre forward, a full forward and at least one corner forward. This is borne out by the scores put up by those counties and the scores we have been putting up. That does not mean we won't improve for next year but those are the facts as it stands. We simply shoot too many silly wides and that is not down to Michael Ryan or the management team.


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    #10036
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    doz wrote: »
    I genuinely think that we are short in the forwards compared to the remaining counties. We are missing a top quality centre forward, a full forward and at least one corner forward. This is borne out by the scores put up by those counties and the scores we have been putting up. That does not mean we won't improve for next year but those are the facts as it stands. We simply shoot too many silly wides and that is not down to Michael Ryan or the management team.

    And what if Mullane and Molumphy were playing?


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    #10037
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    doz wrote: »
    I genuinely think that we are short in the forwards compared to the remaining counties. We are missing a top quality centre forward, a full forward and at least one corner forward. This is borne out by the scores put up by those counties and the scores we have been putting up. That does not mean we won't improve for next year but those are the facts as it stands. We simply shoot too many silly wides and that is not down to Michael Ryan or the management team.

    why are you feeding the troll?


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    #10038
    Motivator
    Registered Users Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭Motivator


    sid wallace wrote: »
    Do you not think that if they had a proper coach they may have hit less wides? No?

    What a ridiculous comment, these players are on the Waterford panel because they're the best players in the county. Michael Ryan's job is to pick the best players available to him, against Clare he did that & yet you're blaming him because the players he picked couldn't score on the day? What a bull**** argument. Against Clare it just didn't happen on the day for Waterford, & I suppose you're going to blame Michael Ryan for Moran's U12 primary game type error that led to the 2nd Clare goal are you?


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    #10039
    albert kidd
    Registered Users Posts: 628 ✭✭✭albert kidd


    doz wrote: »
    I genuinely think that we are short in the forwards compared to the remaining counties. We are missing a top quality centre forward, a full forward and at least one corner forward. This is borne out by the scores put up by those counties and the scores we have been putting up. That does not mean we won't improve for next year but those are the facts as it stands. We simply shoot too many silly wides and that is not down to Michael Ryan or the management team.

    we are no worse then clare in the forwards imo doz.


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    #10040
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    seananigans wrote: »
    why are you feeding the troll?

    Why can't you engage with someone who holds a contrary opinion.


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    #10041
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    Motivator wrote: »
    What a ridiculous comment, these players are on the Waterford panel because they're the best players in the county. Michael Ryan's job is to pick the best players available to him, against Clare he did that & yet you're blaming him because the players he picked couldn't score on the day? What a bull**** argument. Against Clare it just didn't happen on the day for Waterford, & I suppose you're going to blame Michael Ryan for Moran's U12 primary game type error that led to the 2nd Clare goal are you?

    What part of Troll and stop feeding do you people not understand ?


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    #10042
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    sid wallace wrote: »
    And what if Mullane and Molumphy were playing?

    All ifs and buts, they chose to make themselves unavailable, but I suppose Molumphy being on Army duty was Ryan's fault as well? Molumphy, while a great player, is not a scorer and is best placed at midfield IMO.


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    #10043
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    doz wrote: »
    All ifs and buts, they chose to make themselves unavailable, but I suppose Molumphy being on Army duty was Ryan's fault as well? Molumphy, while a great player, is not a scorer and is best placed at midfield IMO.

    FFS are you deaf blind? please stop reacting to this individual !


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    #10044
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    albert kidd wrote: »
    we are no worse then clare in the forwards imo doz.

    I would have held that view after we played them but having seen them against Galway and some of them in the under 21 game I would say that they are a little bit ahead of us. Honan has really come on this year and Kelly and Podge Collins are a joy to watch. But I expect Jake Dillon, Gavin O'Brien, Brian O'Halloran and Jamie Barron will make a big step up next year with the experience of this year, albeit somewhat limited in O'Halloran's case due to his injuries. I would also hope that Paudie Mahony can put his injuries behind him and return to his 2011 form.


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    #10045
    doz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭doz


    seananigans wrote: »
    FFS are you deaf blind? please stop reacting to this individual !

    While I don't agree with a lot of what he has written, i don't consider it trolling and he is not likely to be subject to any action based on anything he was written so far IMO.


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    #10046
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    doz wrote: »
    While I don't agree with a lot of what he has written, i don't consider it trolling and he is not likely to be subject to any action based on anything he was written so far IMO.

    and if you dont react to his BS he will go away ,so please stop reacting


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    #10047
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    seananigans wrote: »
    FFS are you deaf blind? please stop reacting to this individual !

    Do you always react like this when someone disagrees with you ?


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    #10048
    sid wallace
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭sid wallace


    doz wrote: »
    All ifs and buts, they chose to make themselves unavailable, but I suppose Molumphy being on Army duty was Ryan's fault as well? Molumphy, while a great player, is not a scorer and is best placed at midfield IMO.

    I don't think Molumphy had any major issues being released from military duties under previous managements.


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    #10049
    Mountainlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    sid wallace wrote: »
    I don't think Molumphy had any major issues being released from military duties under previous managements.

    Yeah the army just didn't like Michael Ryan, that's why they sent him to the Lebanon :rolleyes:


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    #10050
    Liberty Way
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭Liberty Way


    All ye Waterford hurling fans in the know is there any truth in Mullane sustaining a serious injury this evening in the game v Lismore???:eek: :eek:


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    #10051
    seananigans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭seananigans


    Mountainlad wrote: »
    Yeah the army just didn't like Michael Ryan, that's why they sent him to the Lebanon :rolleyes:
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    STOP FEEDING THE ****ING TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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